School me on suits

[thecoolnessrune]

Well substantiated, thanks.

Thanks, you get what you give, and passive aggressive quips aren't worth alot given the surplus on these forums. If you see it as substantiation, then I guess you just don't understand that well.

 

[jman19]

Thanks, you get what you give, and passive aggressive quips aren't worth alot given the surplus on these forums. If you see it as substantiation, then I guess you just don't understand that well.

I understand fine, thanks.

There is a time and place for suits. They are hardly as common in the workplace as they used to be so no idea what you are griping about.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I understand fine, thanks.

There is a time and place for suits. They are hardly as common in the workplace as they used to be so no idea what you are griping about.

Ok, if your understanding is so great, then please, tell me this logical time and place for suits. Please describe these subtle halls where a suit is the best logical choice of clothing for a given function.

Like smoking, suits used to be everywhere. Like smoking, people have slowly come around to realizing they only serve harmful purposes, and use it less, but it still exists. One day, like smoking, enough of the old guard will hopefully pass that the remaining people realize there is no point to it any longer.

 

[Jeeebus]

Dark navy suit plus white or light blue dress shirt with a black or dark tie = very much suitable for almost all the occasions.

Wat? Have you heard the term "black tie" event... symbolizing the limited occasions when a black tie is actually appropriate to wear (unless you happen to work at Olive Garden or some other restaurant where a clip on black tie is mandatory)?

Wife and I just went to a black tie gala over the weekend. It was the first time in a year I have worn either my black suit or my 1 black tie.

 

[MrSquished]

Slim fit

 

[JEDIYoda]

personally you get what you pay for I use these people for all my suits -- https://thearmoury.com/ !!!! For the win!!!

 

[Svnla]

Wat? Have you heard the term "black tie" event... symbolizing the limited occasions when a black tie is actually appropriate to wear (unless you happen to work at Olive Garden or some other restaurant where a clip on black tie is mandatory)?

Wife and I just went to a black tie gala over the weekend. It was the first time in a year I have worn either my black suit or my 1 black tie.

OP said he rarely use his suit. How often a guy goes to a black tie event? Not very. I would rent one for a black tie event.

Anyway, this is what I like a suit to look. With the exception of a narrower lapel, different pocket square color and two pockets.

 

[DigDog]

didn't we do this once already?

suits are more than just the fabric, cut, and style. the most important thing is the fit.

i've been wearing suits for all my life (it's an italian thing) and my idea of suit it this:

you want to look serious, not "stylish". i think modern english cut suits, or "skinny" suits are a horrible buffoonery.

you *can* get a nice suit off the rack, most people do, but you need to get it fitted. as such, you need to find a store which does this service.
fitted suits are made with a particular cut which allows the tailor to shrink them to your figure, so you cannot re-purpose a suit you have found in a store.
in the US, this will cost you an arm and a leg, plus tax. In europe, you could budget the cost of the suit plus the holiday to go there and come up with the same numbers.

Wool is the preferred material; it's not the same wool that sweaters are made from.

Traditionally the two buttons need to be on the stomach; if they are any higher, or if there's more than 2 buttons, it's not a suit. Suit trousers are worn higher than jeans.

And please get yourself a pair of shoes that don't make you look like a clown.

 

[yuchai]

Ok, if your understanding is so great, then please, tell me this logical time and place for suits. Please describe these subtle halls where a suit is the best logical choice of clothing for a given function.

Like smoking, suits used to be everywhere. Like smoking, people have slowly come around to realizing they only serve harmful purposes, and use it less, but it still exists. One day, like smoking, enough of the old guard will hopefully pass that the remaining people realize there is no point to it any longer.

Comparing wearing suits to smoking? ok....

What are you wearing for your own wedding?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Comparing wearing suits to smoking? ok....

What are you wearing for your own wedding?

They are analogous in ways I have already explained.

I wore a suit at my wedding got the exact same reason I wear a suit when seeing certain clients.

Can you explain the logical purpose of suits then?

 

[IronWing]

They are analogous in ways I have already explained.

I wore a suit at my wedding got the exact same reason I wear a suit when seeing certain clients.

Can you explain the logical purpose of suits then?

Sell out! I didn't wear no suit for my wedding. Got to stick to your principles, man.

 

[MrSquished]

Ok, if your understanding is so great, then please, tell me this logical time and place for suits. Please describe these subtle halls where a suit is the best logical choice of clothing for a given function.

Like smoking, suits used to be everywhere. Like smoking, people have slowly come around to realizing they only serve harmful purposes, and use it less, but it still exists. One day, like smoking, enough of the old guard will hopefully pass that the remaining people realize there is no point to it any longer.

Speaking of smoking, what the hell are you puffing exactly?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Speaking of smoking, what the hell are you puffing exactly?

If the understanding of why suits serve no logical purpose eludes you, you could just admit that. It reflects better than trying to use the same tired quip that's been used so many times before you. But free forum I suppose. If it makes you feel satisfied with yourself, more power to you.

 

[MrSquished]

If the understanding of why suits serve no logical purpose eludes you, you could just admit that. It reflects better than trying to use the same tired quip that's been used so many times before you. But free forum I suppose. If it makes you feel satisfied with yourself, more power to you.

I admit nothing. Your idiotic comparison of suits to smoking is what is completely asinine and my comment was referencing. Suits serve harmful purposes? WTF Smoking makes many people ill and kills lots of people every year, but suits? I've never seen a more stupid comparison in awhile and I frequent the P&N forums on the regular. What will you do for an encore, compare high heels to heroin? Please give us some more of your philosophy.

Suits are definitely declining in popularity over the years. It's fine with me as I prefer to be casual. I never had to wear a suit when I was in the business/corporate world. In many workplaces over the years suits have given way to more casual attire. But for some industries they are still the staple. We shall see how long that lasts. But for certain events they are still by far the preferred type of clothing. Weddings, funerals, christenings, certain special events.

In my industries - freelance real estate photographer, I get to wear anything I want. My standard outfit is sneakers, jeans, a t-shirt and a hoodie if there is a chill. As a real estate agent it's jeans or casual pants, shoes, button down and a sweater if there is a chill. However I am a buyer's agent, if I switch to the listing side, a lot of agents still wear suits to listing appointments. With or without a tie.

And I gotta say, a suit can look real sharp if you have a well-fitted stylish one. I have one nice suit and two cheap suits. I definitely like my ultra slim fit Calvin Klein blue suit. It's dead sexy. Sometimes it's nice when you have to get suited up.

Suits are harmful? Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[IronWing]

Suits are harmful? Thanks for the chuckle.

Guys in suits started WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, Iraq War, and then this…

 

[Exterous]

In europe, you could budget the cost of the suit plus the holiday to go there and come up with the same numbers.

Any recommendations on where in Europe? No plans to go to SE Asia in the near future but we do already have tickets for quite a few places in Europe next year

 

[DigDog]

I would suggest, without being partisan, Italy. Great holiday destination on its own, and with a bit of google-fu you should be able to locate a tailor who can measure/cut/fit in the timeframe of your holiday.

You could otherwise opt for any of the mediterranean countries, Spain, Greece, Croatia, or the south of France, but if you want great beaches, great food, and great weather, i would pick sicily.

 

[cbrunny]

Ok, if your understanding is so great, then please, tell me this logical time and place for suits. Please describe these subtle halls where a suit is the best logical choice of clothing for a given function.

Like smoking, suits used to be everywhere. Like smoking, people have slowly come around to realizing they only serve harmful purposes, and use it less, but it still exists. One day, like smoking, enough of the old guard will hopefully pass that the remaining people realize there is no point to it any longer.

Is this a real opinion? I honestly can't tell.

 

[cbrunny]

Guys in suits started WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, Iraq War, and then this…

 

[RLGL]

I Don't waste my money on suits.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Most important rule is about the buttons:

1 (Top) Sometimes (if present)
2 (Middle or Top) Always
3 (Bottom) Never

https://www.google.com/search?q=alw...active&tbm=isch&q=sometimes+always+never+suit

Uhhh, your first rule is that you should NEVER have 3 buttons. That is completely dead now - majority of suit stores don't carry them anymore.

Also, NO pleated pants and NO cuff pants. Well, unless you want to look like an idiot that has no clue what he is wearing and occasionally dusts off his shitty suit once every 5 years.

 

[IronWing]

Also, NO pleated pants and NO cuff pants. Well, unless you want to look like an idiot that has no clue what he is wearing and occasionally dusts off his shitty suit once every 5 years.

Fourteen years for me, but who's counting? I haven't had to attend a funeral in that long.

 

[agent00f]

I don't need anything fancy or expensive since I only wear it a few times a year. Since I rarely wear it I am hoping to keep it on the cheaper side. I have pretty wide shoulders but an average waist and I think that caused some issues with tailoring my last suit. (Not entirely sure - its been a long time). Any recommendations on what to look for and where to buy?

The best advice is to ignore all the bullshit rules and get something that fits well with minimal rework. Shoulders esp important since adjustment there is a crapshoot. Just go shopping and pay for something that looks good; it's an expression of your style after all.

If you want to save some money go to a discounter like Nordstrom rack. Boss Hugo for ~500 and looks fantastic, prolly my fav in a modern cut. If you really want to save money and willing to trade time for it go to all the goodwills in the area. $20 many barely worn suits and you're bound to find one that works. I have 2 excellent ones from back in the day incl a Dior.

 

[John Connor]

Any recommendations on what to look for

Always get a nice jacket. http://www.biggerbids.com/members/images/7040/public/2141829_straight-jacket.jpg

 

[Muse]

You could buy it at a thrift store, could be more interesting than what you'll walk out of a shop with.