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School cop throws high school girl to ground

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Elevenpog said:
That's a poo poo type of statement though. "Centuries" of schooling included small schoolhouses of 20 or less students that went for maybe a few years, and the teachers could beat your ass with rulers if they wanted. Then if you went home and your dad found out about it he'd probably beat your ass too. I'd imagine students were a lot more in line back in the day.

This day and age we have millenials who think they're entitled to something right off the bat, like this girl.
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Silly children, thinking they are entitled to not be assaulted by a cop for no reason.
 
eskimospy said:
I think it's basically impossible from this news story to know what the kid needs. Sure she acted out here, but if I remember right from reports by other students she is normally well behaved.

I think that the kid in this situation deserves to be punished by the school for her misbehavior. The cop also deserved punishment, and he's gotten it.
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She at the very least needs a suspension. Escalating a situation like that as a student needs a time-out. So she can respect the next time she is asked to be quiet. This is like an episode out of the season 4 of The Wire, minus the cop battery.
 
Elevenpog said:
That's a poo poo type of statement though. "Centuries" of schooling included small schoolhouses of 20 or less students that went for maybe a few years, and the teachers could beat your ass with rulers if they wanted. Then if you went home and your dad found out about it he'd probably beat your ass too. I'd imagine students were a lot more in line back in the day.

This day and age we have millenials who think they're entitled to something right off the bat, like this girl.
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I can tell you stories I have heard from my grandparents of kids punching teachers and getting sent to trade school, or dummy school, as it may have been referred to back then.

It's not a millenial problem, it's a problem of it being a recent incident, and having a ton of social media coverage, along with a healthy dose of "back in my day".
 
Truthfully I don't know what to think with this and after reading the comments and watching the video a few times.

It's clear the officer was trying to pull her out of desk to remove her from the room. He only had his hands on her shoulder and the left pant leg. He's trying to slide her out and up. The student instead tries to punch back at him with one hand, which is assaulting the officer, and hold on to the desk with her other hand while lifting her legs to attempt to get her stuck in the desk so she can't be removed from it.

Since she is holding on to the desk and the officer is pulling with force to try to life her away from the desk, what happens is the desk gets flipped as a result from the force of the officer's pull. It's pretty clear to see that in the video. Which means the officer wasn't trying to flip the desk over to get her out at all in the first place. The student made the flip happen. Because of the flip, happening it causes the student to lose a controlling grip on the desk and the officer is finally able to pull her out of the desk. He flips her over on to her stomach and proceeds to cuff her.

The thing is, the officer has legal ability to physically remove her and use force. Yes officers DO have some laws different than regular people so they can do their job which is different than regular people.

Funny thing is I've seen this situation many times before in the past and never had it been blown up to national media like this. I've seen stupid kids being yanked from their desks to be dragged off for corporal punishment. Never before was it thought wrong of the adult in question that was trying to deal with an unruly child in that way.
 
momeNt said:
I can tell you stories I have heard from my grandparents of kids punching teachers and getting sent to trade school, or dummy school, as it may have been referred to back then.

It's not a millenial problem, it's a problem of it being a recent incident, and having a ton of social media coverage, along with a healthy dose of "back in my day".
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dummy school ?

NM, most people wouldn't even know what an apprenticeship in the US at a Technical school to become a Journeyman would even look like these days, the original meaning of it like in other countries has been lost over time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocational_school
 
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MongGrel said:
dummy school ?

NM, most people wouldn't even know what an apprenticeship in the US at a Technical school to become a Journeyman would even look like these days, the original meaning of it like in other countries has been lost over time.
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Yea, taking K- school kids and not even teaching them math or reading and just having them learn trades?

But back in your day, being trained to be a journeyman without any sort of elementary level education was the way it was done, the good old american way. Vocational schools should be after grade school don't you think?

Stop.
 
momeNt said:
Yea, taking K- school kids and not even teaching them math or reading and just having them learn trades?

But back in your day, being trained to be a journeyman without any sort of elementary level education was the way it was done, the good old american way. Vocational schools should be after grade school don't you think?

Stop.
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What ? I was on honor roll in high school always, no idea where you pulled that from. Trade school was even post military.

NM.
 
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MongGrel said:
What ? I was on honor roll in high school always, no idea where you pulled that from. Trade school was even post military.

NM.
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My post was in response to your "dummy school?" comment and implying I did not know what vocational school was or its value.

In times long gone kids who were trouble makers got sent to "vocational" school even during elementary school years. Learning basically nothing.
 
momeNt said:
My post was in response to your "dummy school?" comment and implying I did not know what vocational school was or its value.

In times long gone kids who were trouble makers got sent to "vocational" school even during elementary school years. Learning basically nothing.
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Mine was in response to your "dummy school" comment to begin with.

Not worth pursuing.

Back on topic shall we.
 
MongGrel said:
Mine was in response to your "dummy school" comment to begin with.

Not worth pursuing.
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Yes, because it was literally called "dummy school" by people. It was filled with troubled pre-teens fucking around with hammers. Nobody learned to read or write, or do math there.

I don't see what you were trying to get at bringing a non sequitur like comparing what I said about trade schools for pre-teens and comparing it to the vocational school programs for skilled labor forces in and linking a wikipedia page to vocational schools.
 
Svnla said:
Students at the school staged a walk out in support of the officer = http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...alkout-in-support-of-fired-deputy-ben-fields/
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How do people go to this site as a reputable source? I am not discounting the above, but I happened across this on their front page 🙄
Bible Scholar Explains Why Everything You’ve Been Taught About Demons Might Be Completely Wrong
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...been-taught-about-demons-is-completely-wrong/
 
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Svnla said:
Students at the school staged a walk out in support of the officer = http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...alkout-in-support-of-fired-deputy-ben-fields/
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It's funny that the left likes to divide things based on matters of class, race, identity, etc so readily. As a kid I despised other students that got out of line and would be even more pro-officer in this particular case had I read it when I was her age. Because they think entirely in collectivist terms and not individual ones, they cannot even comprehend that individual students might have respect for an officer trying to keep order in a class, or that those students might have recognized the girl in the story as a problem child.
 
Does "Officer Slam" have to be a bad thing? Maybe kids respect a kind of macho, no-nonsense authority figure as long he isn't a dick to most of them.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Does "Officer Slam" have to be a bad thing? Maybe kids respect a kind of macho, no-nonsense authority figure as long he isn't a dick to most of them.
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good point it doesn't have to be a bad thing... but during the interview it wasnt presented that way
 
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echo4747 said:
very interesting.. there was a video of some student who witnessed the altercation said he (Fields) is known as " Officer Slam" now hundreds of students walk out in support of him.....something doesn't add up.
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Doesn't appear to be "hundreds":

from the USAToday link:

"About 100 students at a South Carolina high school walked out of class briefly Friday to show support for a school resource officer fired after video showed him throwing an uncooperative black female student across the floor, according to local media and Twitter feeds."

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"A video from the walkout shows dozens of students who left class at around 10 a.m. being asked by Principal Jeff Temoney to return to class."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carolina-students-stage-walkout-to-support-fired-deputy/

The football team he coached and their friends?
 
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