School cop throws high school girl to ground

[fskimospy]

Not really. I just live a very black and white life, there is very little gray.

This 'child' refused the orders of a law enforcement official. She was given MULTIPLE chances to redeem herself and correct her behavior. She did not. As soon as the law enforcement official stepped in it became a legal matter, even the guy who fired him said so. He acted according to the law. He was fired because of mob mentality and wasn't even given anything remotely close to a fair trial for this.

Now we get to reinforce with praise and tax dollars for Shaniqua here that she can defy the legal system, sue her way out of her misbehavior, and be rewarded for it. SJW's everywhere unite!!

I can only imagine how entitled you must be if you think people need to have a fair trial before being fired for incompetence.

He violated department regulations and was disciplined accordingly. How's that for black and white?

The fact that he did it to a 16 year old child in foster care just makes it worse.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Why are you standing so firmly on this? Her age didn't stop her from acting like a child in school... so that means it's cool that she gets a smackdown?

Or you just think it's your job to police everyone calling this student a child?

Maybe, just maybe had she acted like an adult when she was asked to leave the class the first, second, third, and fourth time none of this would have happened.

 

[fskimospy]

Maybe, just maybe had she acted like an adult when she was asked to leave the class the first, second, third, and fourth time none of this would have happened.

But she's not an adult, which is kind of the point.

 

[cirrrocco]

wtf is wrong with you? you are actually comparing her actions to rape?

you are sick person.

These conservative jihadists [not all of them], the ones on display here, show the exact mindset of ISIS and islamist throat cutters . They have a very black and white view of world. Subservient to men in uniforms, heartless.if these fucks were born in the islamic world, the same morons would the ones standing with a AK47 and cutting ppl's throats.

 

[Subyman]

Who says the outcome of physically removing a student will always look like this?


If you think that's what I want. I just acknowledge that there are times when you are going to remove a kid the outcome will look like this.

Then your position is that every kid that disrupts a kid can ignore teachers, administrators and police officer orders.

She can ignore anyone's orders and she did despite being slammed to the ground. Where we differ is how to approach the situation of a minor student non-violently sitting in a chair ignoring administration. Physical violence is idiotic. This isn't a thug on the street who may have a knife or is being aggressive or is threatening the public or an officer. It is a minor student pouting.

And she isn't getting away with anything. The administration can give her a punishment such as suspension, detention, or expulsion. Officers are there to protect the public. He didn't protect anyone.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

But she's not an adult, which is kind of the point.

The last I checked an 18 year is an adult according to the laws of the US.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

wtf is wrong with you? you are actually comparing her actions to rape?

you are sick person.

I'm not comparing it to rape.

WE are asking the illogical people such as yourself, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? What would YOU do? What is the IDEAL actions that should have been taken? So far you haven't answered these 3 questions throughout ~30 pages:

1. If 18 years old isn't old enough to be an adult and make choices on "How not to get your ass kicked by the police", what is? Law says that 16-18 (depending on the state) is old enough to choose whether to engage in sex or not. Apparently you get a free pass to be uncivilized and unruly in public until..... ?

2. If an orphan gets a free base to act sporadically, criminally, and stupidly - where do you draw the line? It's ok to hit the shit out of people and refuse any authority, so what is out of line?

3. If the cop's actions weren't the ideal solution, what would YOU do that resolves this in a reasonable manner without disturbing the classroom for a long period, or without her erupting into hitting the shit of people?


All 3 of these questions have been asked since the beginning. Nearly 30 pages in and the results are fucking hilarious (Hint: No reasonable answers have been given).

 

[fskimospy]

The last I checked an 18 year is an adult according to the laws of the US.

She's 16, not 18. Your daily news link mixed up her age with the age of the other person who was detained. I previously provided links, including the explicit statement of the child's lawyer, that she is 16.

Unless her lawyer doesn't know his own client's age and every non daily news source is wrong, she's a child.

 

[HomerJS]

Oh so its not ok for males to talk back and stand up to cops.

But if a girl does it, then its OK?

talk about a sexist double standard.


My standard.

If a cop asks you to leave multiple times, and you don't leave. He has the right to remove you, if you resist while getting removed, the force used to remove you will probably be greater then you expect.

You missed the standing up and getting in the cops face. Physical threat changes things.

 

[MongGrel]

I'm not comparing it to rape.

WE are asking the illogical people such as yourself, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? What would YOU do? What is the IDEAL actions that should have been taken? So far you haven't answered these 3 questions throughout ~30 pages:

1. If 18 years old isn't old enough to be an adult and make choices on "How not to get your ass kicked by the police", what is? Law says that 16-18 (depending on the state) is old enough to choose whether to engage in sex or not. Apparently you get a free pass to be uncivilized and unruly in public until..... ?

2. If an orphan gets a free base to act sporadically, criminally, and stupidly - where do you draw the line? It's ok to hit the shit out of people and refuse any authority, so what is out of line?

3. If the cop's actions weren't the ideal solution, what would YOU do that resolves this in a reasonable manner without disturbing the classroom for a long period, or without her erupting into hitting the shit of people?


All 3 of these questions have been asked since the beginning. Nearly 30 pages in and the results are fucking hilarious (Hint: No reasonable answers have been given).

Your reading comprehension still seems way off, or you haven't read anything since your last post.

1. She is not 18.

2. Having the Incredible Hulk go "Hulk Smash" and break her arm and spine in the process in a room full of kids.

3. I've all ready stated what I would do earlier, which first off would be to clear the classroom to begin with, which might have taken all of maybe 3 minutes to begin with, have a few people tell her how shit is, and what is going to happen if she does not leave.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

She's 16, not 18. Your daily news link mixed up her age with the age of the other person who was detained. I previously provided links, including the explicit statement of the child's lawyer, that she is 16.

Unless her lawyer doesn't know his own client's age and every non daily news source is wrong, she's a child.

Guess what? Legal age of consent in South Carolina is 16. I think she is legally considered an adult 😀

Personally I would normally find someone to have a rational thought process around the age of 13.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Your reading comprehension still seems way off, or you haven't read anything since your last post.

No answer to the questions. Why am I not surprised? 😀

 

[fskimospy]

Guess what? Legal age of consent in South Carolina is 16. I think she is legally considered an adult 😀

Personally I would normally find someone to have a rational thought process around the age of 13.

Age of consent is not age of majority, which is the generally accepted definition of adulthood.

And if you think 13 year olds are logical...wtf.

 

[fskimospy]

No answer to the questions. Why am I not surprised? 😀

Well your first problem is that you don't even know the age of the victim, haha.

 

[HomerJS]

No answer to the questions. Why am I not surprised? 😀

I have to see you give a good reason not to do the following other then the cops bruised ego.

Drag her in the chair into the hall.
Call parents
Suspend her.

 

[Attic]

She can ignore anyone's orders and she did despite being slammed to the ground. Where we differ is how to approach the situation of a minor student non-violently sitting in a chair ignoring administration. Physical violence is idiotic. This isn't a thug on the street who may have a knife or is being aggressive or is threatening the public or an officer. It is a minor student pouting.

And she isn't getting away with anything. The administration can give her a punishment such as suspension, detention, or expulsion. Officers are there to protect the public. He didn't protect anyone.

Yes. Handling a disruptive student needs to be viewed relative to the situation.


Perhaps the cop simply fell into training for asserting control (increasing amounts) until he controls the situation. The officers actions line up much more with what we'd expect to see if there were someone out on the street directly disobeying direct orders/commands.

But it's a girl, in a classroom, who won't put away her phone. So WTF Charles.



If that's my daughter i'd be livid. Young kids act like idiots, not excusing it, but they are known to be defiant and not think things through. Let's address her issue in a manner more conducive to helping her, rather than exerting extreme use of force to control her.

All around despicable. Let's not kid ourselves though over the question of isolated incident vs bound to happen. If this is an isolated incident then I don't give a shit.

I need some more coffee.

 

[MongGrel]

No answer to the questions. Why am I not surprised? 😀

Wow, you really are a twit.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[dphantom]

But she's not an adult, which is kind of the point.

maybe if she had complied with instructions the first time as any well behaved child would she would not have been removed as she was? Just thinking how my children (except for 1) and grand children have been raised to be polite and follow an adults legitimate requests.

You seem to like making excuses for unacceptable behavior. The officer exceeded his authority and has been punished as appropriate. When will you hold accountable the teenager?

 

[jackstar7]

The last I checked an 18 year is an adult according to the laws of the US.

I hope you know you're done here, right?

 

[fskimospy]

maybe if she had complied with instructions the first time as any well behaved child would she would not have been removed as she was? Just thinking how my children (except for 1) and grand children have been raised to be polite and follow an adults legitimate requests.

You seem to like making excuses for unacceptable behavior. The officer exceeded his authority and has been punished as appropriate. When will you hold accountable the teenager?

Can you point to a single post of mine where I made any excuse for her behavior? EDIT: that would mean she shouldn't be punished? She should be punished for what she did but that should come from school staff, not a police officer takedown.

You guys act like she would get off scot free if not for this. She might get off without discipline NOW, considering the egregious nature of the officer's actions, but absent his misconduct she would have and should have been punished.

 

[Blue_Max]

he wants to remove her from the class, and desk. She is not moving, and holding on to the desk.

The fault for what happens next.

Furthermore, we have an edited video that just shows the cops actions, where is the video of what she was doing that caused the teacher to call someone? Her behavior before hand was so bad that a teacher felt the need to call a cop.

...buried in the article, hoping to be overlooked;

One of the videos from inside the math classroom at Spring Valley High School shows the student resisting, according to Lott.

"When the officer puts his hands on her initially, she reaches up and she pops the officer with her fist," he said.

Not exactly a smart move,eh? The video doesn't show the prior 10-30 seconds of HER actions, only starting at his in order to feed the media fires.

I feel so sorry for any adult that has to work in a school today with the shittiest, most belligerent kids in decades challenging and antagonizing authority figures at every opportunity. There's no way the adult can win - the best they can manage is to sigh and let them get away with their shitty behaviour because they'll get in trouble like this for trying to do anything about it.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I hope you know you're done here, right?

Still doesn't change the fact that had she complied with first four requests to leave none of this would have occurred.

 

[MongGrel]

maybe if she had complied with instructions the first time as any well behaved child would she would not have been removed as she was? Just thinking how my children (except for 1) and grand children have been raised to be polite and follow an adults legitimate requests.

You seem to like making excuses for unacceptable behavior. The officer exceeded his authority and has been punished as appropriate. When will you hold accountable the teenager?

And I doubt any of them are orphaned and in a new foster home, as you are still alive. I guess she should just be a well adjusted teenager.

Can you point to a single post of mine where I made any excuse for her behavior? EDIT: that would mean she shouldn't be punished? She should be punished for what she did but that should come from school staff, not a police officer takedown.

You guys act like she would get off scot free if not for this. She might get off without discipline NOW, considering the egregious nature of the officer's actions, but absent his misconduct she would have and should have been punished.

LEO handled it badly to begin with, or this would not even be a story.

 

[michal1980]

She can ignore anyone's orders and she did despite being slammed to the ground. Where we differ is how to approach the situation of a minor student non-violently sitting in a chair ignoring administration. Physical violence is idiotic. This isn't a thug on the street who may have a knife or is being aggressive or is threatening the public or an officer. It is a minor student pouting.

And she isn't getting away with anything. The administration can give her a punishment such as suspension, detention, or expulsion. Officers are there to protect the public. He didn't protect anyone.

And you would let a student pout, and have their way. You'd let them own the classroom. You'd let them sit in the class all day rendering that room useless for everyone, because using force to remove a siting kid is 'bad'.

I wouldn't. There comes a point where a student that has been told to leave, needs to made to leave. Even if they are just pouting.

 

[Blue_Max]

2. Having the Incredible Hulk go "Hulk Smash" and break her arm and spine in the process in a room full of kids.

The student's attorney also said his client had suffered injuries. Her arm requires her to wear a cast, said Todd Rutherford. She suffered a bruise on her head, he said.

Spine? Where? 😵 Sensationalizing with a smidge of exaggeration?