School cop throws high school girl to ground

[michal1980]

The sheriff is right. Its not about the girl. Sure, the girl didn't listen and sat in her seat ignoring orders. She is being a complete butt and should be disciplined with a suspension or detention or whatever the administration feels is justified. It isn't about the girl's inaction. Its about the cop violently tossing around a non-violent minor child in a school.

Many kids do this exact same thing in classrooms across the US and, somehow, the administration finds a way to deal with it other than body slamming and violently hand cuffing the child.

Can you imagine every offense in a classroom like the girl's being met with force like that? I don't want to live in a country like that, which is why I'm against this man's actions.

So you want to be in a country where 16 year olds can do whatever they want in a class and not be removed.

They can just sit in classrooms ignore every adults orders and you'd be ok with that? They can disrupt the education of every other student but dont you dare touch that precious little baby, thats going too far.



I dont want to live in a country where 16 year olds can do whatever they want and the punishment for that is a slap on the wrist.

 

[Subyman]

Its shameful that bleeding hearts like you and the liberals have made the climate so hostile towards cops now, that even when they are removing trouble who cause trouble, they have to run for cover.

Plus please show us, who is reveling in the violence towards this 'child'.

This 16 year old who could be tried as an adult.

What is sad is that you use "bleeding hearts" as a derogatory word. Empathy is considered a pejorative to you. And so follows your position in this case. 🙁

Tried as an adult? She didn't commit an adult crime...

 

[Subyman]

So you want to be in a country where 16 year olds can do whatever they want in a class and not be removed.

They can just sit in classrooms ignore every adults orders and you'd be ok with that? They can disrupt the education of every other student but dont you dare touch that precious little baby, thats going too far.



I dont want to live in a country where 16 year olds can do whatever they want and the punishment for that is a slap on the wrist.

Don't ignore my other questions. How do other administrators deal with stubborn students? You really want to go down the route of using police force to violently quell innocuous acts of teen rebellion such as sitting in a seat? That is crossing a dangerous line of the force/punishment not nearly matching the situation.

To answer your question. I've already said I'm not okay with students ignoring teachers and administration. The girl should be suspended or given detention, what ever the administration feels is appropriate. That is the punishment. As for de-escalating the situation, other schools deal with kids like this all the time and they somehow manage not to use violence against them.

Her only crime was one of dignity and it was met with violence. That sounds more like an honor culture and we certainly don't want to go back to that...

 

[michal1980]

What is sad is that you use "bleeding hearts" as a derogatory word. Empathy is considered a pejorative to you. And so follows your position in this case. 🙁

Tried as an adult? She didn't commit an adult crime...

I empathize for the teacher.

Whos class was disrupted by a student that didn't follow the rules

I empathize for the rest of the class who's education was disrupted for this selfish student

I empathize with the administrator who like the teacher is so neutered, cannot do anything to remove a student that refuses to listen to directions.

I empathize with the police office who was the only one that had any authority to remove a disorderly student, and because he used the last available option to him, is now going to have his life ruined.

I do NOT empathize with a selfish asshole of a student that disrupts a class, refuses to listen to a teacher multiple times, refuses to listen to administration multiple times, refuses to listen to a police officer multiple times, and then gets physically removed from her seat.


What is it that you want to happen in situations like this?

Do you want the teacher to have no authority in the classroom? Because by leaving the student alone after they refuse orders is what you will get.

Do you want the administration to have no authority in the school? Because by leaving the student alone, is what you'll end up with.

Do you want the cops to have no authority to remove students after they refuse their orders? Because thats what you are advocating here.

 

[SheHateMe]

Eff you. You know nothing. Don't apply your personal beliefs to me.

I'm reading the thread, bro.

 

[highland145]

I'm reading the thread, bro.

And that has what to do with me and mine?

Did I mention, "Eff you. You know nothing?

 

[Spungo]

Can you imagine every offense in a classroom like the girl's being met with force like that? I don't want to live in a country like that, which is why I'm against this man's actions.

Actually that is what would happen in almost every case. Just do a google video search for "resisting arrest".
Man in Arby's. He's not fighting. He's just resisting in a nonviolent way.
man in car. Again, he's not fighting. He's just resisting.

There's also that case where they murdered that big fat guy because he was selling cigarettes or something. He didn't hit any of the cops. He was just standing his ground without being violent.

I think the US has a cultural problem.
1 - Why does the teen think it's a good idea to resist authority figures?
2 - Why does every situation lead to violence?
3 - Why are authority figures praised like gods?
4 - Why are all military personnel treated like heroes?

Canadians near the border probably see this all the time on American TV. Authority in the US is almost like a religion, and police are the priests of that religion. I never get that feeling when I'm in British Columbia. Police up there are more like paramedics trying to help people, not like soldiers trying to do armed raids and shoot people. The people up in Canada don't seem to view police or the government as an enemy or a friend. They don't have dumb arguments to shut down abortion clinics or force creationism on everyone. There's something unique about America that makes everyone act like a wise and beautiful woman.

 

[Subyman]

Actually that is what would happen in almost every case. Just do a google video search for "resisting arrest".
Man in Arby's. He's not fighting. He's just resisting in a nonviolent way.
man in car. Again, he's not fighting. He's just resisting.

There's also that case where they murdered that big fat guy because he was selling cigarettes or something. He didn't hit any of the cops. He was just standing his ground without being violent.

I think the US has a cultural problem.
1 - Why does the teen think it's a good idea to resist authority figures?
2 - Why does every situation lead to violence?
3 - Why are authority figures praised like gods?
4 - Why are all military personnel treated like heroes?

Canadians near the border probably see this all the time on American TV. Authority in the US is almost like a religion, and police are the priests of that religion. I never get that feeling when I'm in British Columbia. Police up there are more like paramedics trying to help people, not like soldiers trying to do armed raids and shoot people. The people up in Canada don't seem to view police or the government as an enemy or a friend. They don't have dumb arguments to shut down abortion clinics or force creationism on everyone. There's something unique about America that makes everyone act like a wise and beautiful woman.

Show me this happening in class rooms. You are showing police force in the general public against adults. Show me minor children getting body slammed for back talking teachers, ignoring teachers, etc.

But I do agree with you. I'm glad to see the majority can see the issue as more than cut and dry, which is why this cop is on suspension right now. I would also like to add that there are many, many great police officers out there. It's the grown men that can't find a way to de-escalate a minor child in a class room with other students present without resorting to body slamming that are a determent to the police. Then some pat him on the back and say "there was no other way, good job."

 

[master_shake_]

Actually that is what would happen in almost every case. Just do a google video search for "resisting arrest".
Man in Arby's. He's not fighting. He's just resisting in a nonviolent way.
man in car. Again, he's not fighting. He's just resisting.

There's also that case where they murdered that big fat guy because he was selling cigarettes or something. He didn't hit any of the cops. He was just standing his ground without being violent.

I think the US has a cultural problem.
1 - Why does the teen think it's a good idea to resist authority figures?
2 - Why does every situation lead to violence?
3 - Why are authority figures praised like gods?
4 - Why are all military personnel treated like heroes?

Canadians near the border probably see this all the time on American TV. Authority in the US is almost like a religion, and police are the priests of that religion. I never get that feeling when I'm in British Columbia. Police up there are more like paramedics trying to help people, not like soldiers trying to do armed raids and shoot people. The people up in Canada don't seem to view police or the government as an enemy or a friend. They don't have dumb arguments to shut down abortion clinics or force creationism on everyone. There's something unique about America that makes everyone act like a wise and beautiful woman.

i'm pretty sure that police here still believe in serve and protect. not comply or die.

 

[SheHateMe]

And that has what to do with me and mine?

Did I mention, "Eff you. You know nothing?

You're here making similar comments to the ones everyone else is making and I decided to respond to you in particular. You want to fight about it?


And yes, I read your "Eff you" comment. Saying it twice isn't going to hurt my feelings or stop me from speaking up about what P&N loves to do in threads involving people of a certain hue. You guys think the minorities on this site can't see through the shit you guys say. We are not dumb. I'll speak up anytime I want.

 

[michal1980]

Don't ignore my other questions. How do other administrators deal with stubborn students? You really want to go down the route of using police force to violently quell innocuous acts of teen rebellion such as sitting in a seat? That is crossing a dangerous line of the force/punishment not nearly matching the situation.

To answer your question. I've already said I'm not okay with students ignoring teachers and administration. The girl should be suspended or given detention, what ever the administration feels is appropriate. That is the punishment. As for de-escalating the situation, other schools deal with kids like this all the time and they somehow manage not to use violence against them.

Her only crime was one of dignity and it was met with violence. That sounds more like an honor culture and we certainly don't want to go back to that...

How do you have dignity when you don't listen to teachers, administration and the police?


Do you have any examples of kids that refuse to listen to teachers, administrators, and cops telling them to leave the classroom? How do you know they deal with this ALL the time?

 

[railer]

You're here making similar comments to the ones everyone else is making and I decided to respond to you in particular. You want to fight about it?


And yes, I read your "Eff you" comment. Saying it twice isn't going to hurt my feelings or stop me from speaking up about what P&N loves to do in threads involving people of a certain hue. You guys think the minorities on this site can't see through the shit you guys say. We are not dumb. I'll speak up anytime I want.

If you think that every single thing that ever happens to a black person is "racist", then you're pretty dumb. You and Jstorm seem to have that response down pat.
You two are the biggest racists on this board. Every conversation you ever have on this board revolves around race.

 

[Subyman]

How do you have dignity when you don't listen to teachers, administration and the police?

I'm not talking about her dignity, I'm speaking to the adults.

Do you have any examples of kids that refuse to listen to teachers, administrators, and cops telling them to leave the classroom? How do you know they deal with this ALL the time?

No, because an officer doesn't escalate it to national news... 😉

 

[Spungo]

i'm pretty sure that police here still believe in serve and protect. not comply or die.

The police have given an ultimatum: die or be killed 😀

Show me minor children getting body slammed for back talking teachers, ignoring teachers, etc.

While looking for a clip, I think I'm seeing a trend.
white woman yelling at cops and resisting arrest, but given several minutes to reconsider before being slammed to the ground

I guess it pays to be white.

 

[michal1980]

I'm not talking about her dignity, I'm speaking to the adults.

You said quote

Her only crime was one of dignity and it was met with violence. That sounds more like an honor culture and we certainly don't want to go back to that

How were you not talking about the girl that refuses to listen to adults?


And you the question remains.

What do you do with a kid that refuses to leave a class room after being ordered to by a teacher, and administrator, and a cop.

Do you honestly let the kid have their way?

 

[SheHateMe]

If you think that every single thing that ever happens to a black person is "racist", then you're pretty dumb. You and Jstorm seem to have that response down pat.
You two are the biggest racists on this board. Every conversation you ever have on this board revolves around race.

I don't think that every single thing that happens to us is racist. I do however think a lot of posters on P&N like to hide behind their computer screens and post racial garbage in a lot of the threads here. That is my problem with this place. I don't give a fuck if you guys talk about the story. I have a problem with how you treat race group A vs race group B.

Also, How is it racist if I speak up about the things I see here? Excuse the hell out of me, but I don't think I've ever said a single thing here that showed that I think white people are inferior to blacks. I've seen a fair share of this behavior from posters on P&N, though.

You guys poke your chests out every time someone tries to go against the circlejerk here.

Also, please do not try to insult my fucking intelligence. I am very educated and I certainly didn't go to school for some P&N poster to try and belittle me by saying I am dumb for having an opinion. You can fuck right off with that one. At least I'm honest about how I feel. A lot of you like to hide behind your carefully crafted words.

 

[highland145]

You're here making similar comments to the ones everyone else is making and I decided to respond to you in particular. You want to fight about it?


And yes, I read your "Eff you" comment. Saying it twice isn't going to hurt my feelings or stop me from speaking up about what P&N loves to do in threads involving people of a certain hue. You guys think the minorities on this site can't see through the shit you guys say. We are not dumb. I'll speak up anytime I want.

Double down, SHM. I didn't know what race the girl is.

Talk about your colors showing.

Are you pissed that snowflakes are white or do you refuse to get the reference?

+1 railer.

Did I mention, "Eff you. You know nothing. Don't apply your personal beliefs to me."?

 

[SheHateMe]

Double down, SHM. I didn't know what race the girl is.

Talk about your colors showing.

Sure, of course. You don't know what color she is. :thumbsup: You were just commenting on a thread and had not seen the subject matter..

Are you pissed that snowflakes are white or do you refuse to get the reference?

I know snowflakes are white, asshole. Why would I be pissed about it? I also know that the phrase is used to describe people as well....which is the way you were using it, clearly.

So why are cops in the school anyway with all of the special snowflakes around?

Like...really...you think I'm stupid enough to believe this comment was about what color snowflakes actually are?

Did I mention, "Eff you. You know nothing. Don't apply your personal beliefs to me."?

Yes, this is the third time you've told me I don't know "nothing". I'm not applying my personal beliefs to you. I simply read your fucking comment and responded.

So, since you want to play pretend like you didn't mean anything by it. Why don't you clarify on what your comment was supposed to mean? Why are cops in school anyway with "special snowflakes"?


This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys say things....and then take 2 giant steps back when someone notices. Don't throw stones and hide your hands. You and railer aren't going to get me to stop talking by saying I'm dumb and calling me a racist. You're not going to hurt my feelings, either.

 

[highland145]

Sure, of course. You don't know what color she is. :thumbsup:



I know snowflakes are white, asshole. Clearly, that was not your intention when you were one of the first people to comment on this thread.



Like...really...you think I'm stupid enough to believe this comment was about what color snowflakes actually are?




Yes, this is the third time you've told me I don't know "nothing". I'm not applying my personal beliefs to you. I simply read your fucking comment and responded.

So, since you want to play pretend like you didn't mean anything by it. Why don't you clarify on what your comment was supposed to mean? Why are cops in school anyway with "special snowflakes"?


This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys say things....and then take 2 giant steps back when someone notices. Don't throw stones and hide your hands. You and railer aren't going to get me to stop talking by saying I'm dumb and calling me a racist. You're not going to hurt my feelings, either.

You actually tripled down. :\

Do you not know what the term "special snowflake" means? The term that got you all riled up to start with?

And, no, I don't think you're dumb.

 

[highland145]

Did you not see the Kia commercial or did you ignore it?

 

[Darwin333]

no. its spending money on trying to educate students. One student was insisting on disrupting that. So they tried to remove her so they can continue with the students who wanted to learn.

Not according to eyewitness accounts, she might not have been getting educated herself but according to the eyewitness accounts that I have read she wasn't disrupting anyone else. Now the cop throwing her around like a ragdoll, pretty sure that disrupted everyone for the rest of the day and probably a hell of a lot more considering the media attention.

 

[highland145]

Did you not see the south park post or did you ignore it?

 

[SheHateMe]

You actually tripled down. :\

Do you not know what the term "special snowflake" means? The term that got you all riled up to start with?

And, no, I don't think you're dumb.

Yes, I know what it fucking means. I asked you what you meant since you want to play games. What was your comment supposed to be about? I don't watch South Park and I sure as hell don't spend any amount of time remembering things from Kia commercials.


You know what really irks me about this forum? It's that you guys like to try and tear people down when they have a problem with what you say. You told me that I don't know "nothing" three times.... and then you agree with someone who called me dumb. Over a comment that you could have easily clarified.

It's okay though. I'll wake my dumb ass up tomorrow morning, and drive my dumb ass to work in the car I just bought and make some money at my new job where I clearly hate everyone because I'm racist and then I'll drive home and cook myself dinner and not think about how shitty this forum can be.

I guess I'll see yall when another cop abuses his power.

 

[Darwin333]

There is video evidence of her punching him, it is clear as day. I don't know why she wasn't charged. Denying that it happened is pretty silly to do. Dragging the desk to the hallways is not the course of action that should have been taken. Do you really think she would have just gotten up out of the chair then? Funny thing is, if he had done that and hurt his back, you'd blame him for that too. She was asked several times to get up. How hard is that to do? Why does she feel she has the right to tell authority figures no? Yes it is her fault the chair flipped. He grabbed her, not the chair.

Yes they are a law enforcement agency. I wanted to know what charges you would press. Surely you have an answer since you're calling for this to happen. They're going to investigate because this is the world we created.

Please post a screen shot of this small girl, sitting in her desk, punching the officer. I have seen nothing of the sort in any of the videos that I have watched. If the asshole arrested and charged another kid in the class for protesting his treatment of her I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that if she had assaulted him he damn sure would have added that to the charges. Hell that would be the one thing he could claim to justify his actions.

 

[fskimospy]

Please post a screen shot of this small girl, sitting in her desk, punching the officer. I have seen nothing of the sort in any of the videos that I have watched. If the asshole arrested and charged another kid in the class for protesting his treatment of her I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that if she had assaulted him he damn sure would have added that to the charges. Hell that would be the one thing he could claim to justify his actions.

Cliven Bundy? Freedom fighter.

16 year old girl? DESERVED IT.