SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007

alkemyst

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SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007

Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack 's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack .
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark . Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy 's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy 's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy 's mom has affair with psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro 's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro 's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane pain t bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny 's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary . Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


 

Pacfanweb

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Most of that is true.

Funny thing is, I did a lot of quail and dove hunting when I was in high school, and if I was going hunting after school, I always had 2-3 shotguns in the truck. Never a problem, then again I had some common sense and never took them in the school, either.
 

Linflas

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In America we are currently living in a Kindergarchy, under rule by children. People who are raising, or have recently raised, or have even been around children a fair amount in recent years will, I think, immediately sense what I have in mind. Children have gone from background to foreground figures in domestic life, with more and more attention centered on them, their upbringing, their small accomplishments, their right relationship with parents and grandparents. For the past 30 years at least, we have been lavishing vast expense and anxiety on our children in ways that are unprecedented in American and in perhaps any other national life. Such has been the weight of all this concern about children that it has exercised a subtle but pervasive tyranny of its own. This is what I call Kindergarchy: dreary, boring, sadly misguided Kindergarchy.

Every high school now has its battery of counselors: guidance, psychological, college. A larger and larger segment of the student population seems to bring its own psychological tics and jiggeroos to school with them: ADHD, dyslexia and other learning disabilities, various degrees of depression requiring regimens of pills and therapy sessions. Some of these defects and disabilities are the result of parents' having their children at a later age. Might others be that the children are so intensely watched over and tested that more and more defects and disabilities show up, some among them possibly imaginary?

School is the pressure point. More and more teachers in grade and high schools complain not about the children they are asked to teach, but about the endless contact with children's parents. Parents are in situ, on the scene, unstintingly on the job. "How come Corey only got a B in physics? He's always been so wonderful in science." "Why isn't Lettice a better speller? Her father won the state spelling bee in Iowa." One wonders how many teachers have been driven out of the profession by parents' bombarding them with emails, phone calls, and requests for meetings?

As my sons were growing up, I began to notice parents taking a great deal of interest in their education, much more so than previous generations of middle-class parents had done. Everyone wanted his or her kids to get into one of the better-regarded colleges, and a lot more than education seemed to be riding on it. A son at Princeton, a daughter at Yale, such things seemed a validation of one's own virtue as a good parent, and hence, somehow, as a superior human being. Much snobbery was entailed, of course; having a child at Harvard being obviously thought more impressive than one at a nearby community college, but more than snobbery alone was involved. Payback time, getting into a good college is the child's return on his parents' immense psychological investment in him.

The Kindergarchy Every child a dauphin.



 

Demon-Xanth

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Some of that is pretty true. Growing up it was always:
Boy hits boy: boys will be boys.
Boy hits back: it's a fight and both should be suspended.
 

CraKaJaX

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What about:

Scenario: Heat advisory for NY. 95+ degrees.

1957: Go on with curriculum with no AC, maybe a fan.
2007: Cancel school with AC and plenty of fans.
 

KB

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I like this one:

Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack 's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack .
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


I know several older people who have reported this to me, claiming they kept their shotguns in their locker for after school hunting. I told them shens and they didn't understand me.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: KB
I like this one:

Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack 's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack .
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


I know several older people who have reported this to me, claiming they kept their shotguns in their locker for after school hunting. I told them shens and they didn't understand me.

why not just tell them you don't beleive them. not everyone knows internet slang.

but its true. we would bring guns to school for hunting season all the time. hell i would take a pocket knife with me daily to school.


 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Some of that is pretty true. Growing up it was always:
Boy hits boy: boys will be boys.
Boy hits back: it's a fight and both should be suspended.
I was suspended in 6th grade for defending myself and it still doesn't make any sense. The other kid was hitting me, and so what was I supposed to do? Stand there? This was probably one of the first fights at that school for the year, at least for 6th graders, and so the conclusion I've come to is that the principal must have done it to set an example for everyone else. A lot of kids came in to talk about what happened and each said that I was defending myself.

My parents didn't care that I got suspended, especially because I was just defending myself, but it was all a bit stupid and out of control.

The other kid did get out of school suspension and community service, but I'm not sure how the principal justified my in school suspension.

It's not a real issue for me, but just rather something that I never understood.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: sdifox
sad part is op's scenarios are mostly true.

The sad part is that most of them are so exaggerated or just plain untrue that it detracts from any message there might have been.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Some of that is pretty true. Growing up it was always:
Boy hits boy: boys will be boys.
Boy hits back: it's a fight and both should be suspended.
I was suspended in 6th grade for defending myself and it still doesn't make any sense. The other kid was hitting me, and so what was I supposed to do? Stand there? This was probably one of the first fights at that school for the year, at least for 6th graders, and so the conclusion I've come to is that the principal must have done it to set an example for everyone else. A lot of kids came in to talk about what happened and each said that I was defending myself.

My parents didn't care that I got suspended, especially because I was just defending myself, but it was all a bit stupid and out of control.

The other kid did get out of school suspension and community service, but I'm not sure how the principal justified my in school suspension.

It's not a real issue for me, but just rather something that I never understood.

Same here, I got in trouble because someone was choking me, and I threw them off twice before slamming them into a wall. 10 feet from the office. Apparently I should've walked into the office with the guy around my neck.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Some of that is pretty true. Growing up it was always:
Boy hits boy: boys will be boys.
Boy hits back: it's a fight and both should be suspended.
I was suspended in 6th grade for defending myself and it still doesn't make any sense. The other kid was hitting me, and so what was I supposed to do? Stand there? This was probably one of the first fights at that school for the year, at least for 6th graders, and so the conclusion I've come to is that the principal must have done it to set an example for everyone else. A lot of kids came in to talk about what happened and each said that I was defending myself.

My parents didn't care that I got suspended, especially because I was just defending myself, but it was all a bit stupid and out of control.

The other kid did get out of school suspension and community service, but I'm not sure how the principal justified my in school suspension.

It's not a real issue for me, but just rather something that I never understood.

yeap. you are supposed to take the beating and not do a damn thing. just sit and get shit beat out of you. Even then you may still get suspended.


a few years ago a kid we know was jumped by 2 guys in the bathroom at school. they beat the crap out of him and put him in the hospital. yet he got a suspension because he did punch one in the face.

Zero tolerance=zero sense.

 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sdifox
sad part is op's scenarios are mostly true.

The sad part is that most of them are so exaggerated or just plain untrue that it detracts from any message there might have been.

thus the use of the word mostly. Obviously it is exhaggerated, otherwise it would not be funny.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sdifox
sad part is op's scenarios are mostly true.

The sad part is that most of them are so exaggerated or just plain untrue that it detracts from any message there might have been.

while some are exaggerated they do have some truth.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sdifox
sad part is op's scenarios are mostly true.

The sad part is that most of them are so exaggerated or just plain untrue that it detracts from any message there might have been.

thus the use of the word mostly. Obviously it is exhaggerated, otherwise it would not be funny.

The sad part is those thinking this wasn't a joke but a factual report.

It's a bit of a stretch in many parts but you can't help but not realize how scared and sue happy the country has become.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary . Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
So true... there's a "hands up" policy here when stuff happens.. so it's clear the teacher isn't touching the child. I nearly fell over when I heard about it.
 

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Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane pain t bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny 's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

This isn't too far off. Back in 2003, a kid from my high school mixed ammonia and bleach in a platic water bottle, shook it up, and chucked it into my friend's front yard. It made a small pop, but a neighbor called the cops, the cops got the FBI involved and the kid was charged with domestic terrorism for creating chlorine gas in a residential neighborhood with the 'intent to harm.' I don't remember the outcome.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro 's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro 's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

False. How many Pedros would you expect to find in a US public school in 1957?

besides, this list should be updated to 1958/2008.