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Scenario: Your space-ark is damaged, limited resources

SagaLore

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You're currently the acting navigator of a space-ark, just about to complete a 10,000 year mission. There are a 100,000 people in cryofreeze. The ark is supposed to carry a large variety of plants and animals.

A micro-meteor shower damages the ark.

You have to reroute emergency resources to keep the people alive, but in doing so most of your cargo has to be dumped. Out of everything that could have been brought from Earth, you have to choose:

- 5 different plant species
- 5 different animal class/orders

Whatever you pick, you'll have unlimited amount of it (replication technology). The planet has nothing but a breathable oxygen.

So what do you pick?
 
Ummm... so it made it 10,000 years without damage traveling through our solar system, the Oort cloud and interstellar space, yet just before arriving it take damage from micro meteors.

Somehow that just doesn't add up. 🙁

Oh yeah and if we have replication technology, I'll pick the DNA database and just let the replicators do the rest. 😛
In fact, I would use the replication technology to fix the damage to the ship making the whole scenario a non issue.
 
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3 food - 1 work - 1 play for each category.

corn (food)
rice (food)
potatoes (food)
tree - fastest growing/best for building (building Materials)
grapes (wine)

cows (food)
chickens (food)
pigs (food)
horses (Work)
dogs (companionship)
 
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You're currently the acting navigator of a space-ark, just about to complete a 10,000 year mission. There are a 100,000 people in cryofreeze. The ark is supposed to carry a large variety of plants and animals.

A micro-meteor shower damages the ark.

You have to reroute emergency resources to keep the people alive, but in doing so most of your cargo has to be dumped. Out of everything that could have been brought from Earth, you have to choose:

- 5 different plant species
- 5 different animal class/orders

Whatever you pick, you'll have unlimited amount of it (replication technology). The planet has nothing but a breathable oxygen.

So what do you pick?

Question: Why would your cargo need to be dumped?
 
Engines were damaged, so it would no longer able to make a safe decent to the surface probably.

So why would you limit it to 5 each? Will keeping 10 magically change the descent probability? Wouldn't it make much more sense to take everone out of cryostasis and dump the cryostasis gear? The gear must weigh more than the animals.
 
You're currently the acting navigator of a space-ark, just about to complete a 10,000 year mission. There are a 100,000 people in cryofreeze. The ark is supposed to carry a large variety of plants and animals.

A micro-meteor shower damages the ark.

You have to reroute emergency resources to keep the people alive, but in doing so most of your cargo has to be dumped. Out of everything that could have been brought from Earth, you have to choose:

- 5 different plant species
- 5 different animal class/orders

Whatever you pick, you'll have unlimited amount of it (replication technology). The planet has nothing but a breathable oxygen.

So what do you pick?

you should know better than to post a question like this in OT.
Your premise is going to be ripped apart.

A micro-meteor shower damages the ark.
i find it hard to believe that we've advanced enough to create a ship capable of a 10,000 year mission (construction, engines, etc) yet the ship cannot handle micrometeors? A micro-meteor is a tiny meteorite having a diameter of 10-40 micrometres. This is basically "dust particles" in space. One would think a ship capable of travelling for 10,000 years would have some sort of hull thicker than paper.


The planet has nothing but a breathable oxygen.
so.. no water? if the planet has breathable oxygen... is this static? if not.. how is carbon dioxide converted back to oxygen. if it's not converted.. eventually we'll breath up all the oxygen, and left with a CO2 atmosphere, and die.

you'll have unlimited amount of it (replication technology).
when you say "replication technology" .. are you talking Star Trek type replication? cuz.. A replicator works by rearranging subatomic particles, which are abundant everywhere in the universe, to form molecules and arrange those molecules to form the object.
For example, to create a pork chop, the replicator would first form atoms of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc., then arrange them into amino acids, proteins, and cells, and put it all together into the form of a pork chop.
If i have replicator technology, why would i need to "choose" ?

You have to reroute emergency resources to keep the people alive, but in doing so most of your cargo has to be dumped.
why would we need to dump cargo? most cargo isn't perishable, and as such, shouldn't need any life support. if you mean perishable goods... well.. then its sustainment system should work on the same system as life support. if i'm that close to a planet... shouldnt need but minimal life support to keep the people alive until the animal and plant life is transported down to the planet.
 
I'd keep a larger variety of animals and maybe dump some humans. In the long run, its probably better.
 
Ummm... so it made it 10,000 years without damage traveling through our solar system, the Oort cloud and interstellar space, yet just before arriving it take damage from micro meteors.

Somehow that just doesn't add up. 🙁

Oh yeah and if we have replication technology, I'll pick the DNA database and just let the replicators do the rest. 😛
In fact, I would use the replication technology to fix the damage to the ship making the whole scenario a non issue.

Can't do that. The replicator can only replicate an existing product. I didn't say this was star trek.
 
Can't do that. The replicator can only replicate an existing product. I didn't say this was star trek.

so.. then it's a "duplicator" ?

how does this 'space xerox' work?

if its going to xerox a cow... it has to have amino acids... complex protien chains, etc...
couldnt be that hard to get it to make a goat.. their genetic structure cant be that different.
 
Question: Why would your cargo need to be dumped?

Hull breech, combined with destroyed fuel cylinders, so you can't keep the mass and still make it to the planet (actually you'd overshoot it because you can't slow down fast enough).
 
Hull breech, combined with destroyed fuel cylinders, so you can't keep the mass and still make it to the planet (actually you'd overshoot it because you can't slow down fast enough).

HUH?? that makes NO SENSE..

if you dump mass you become lighter.. and SPEED UP.

You'd want mass so you are heavier and slow down.
 
I see the big brains of AT are hard at work finding plot holes in a two paragraph hypothetical. Keep up the good work guys.
 
I will dump all the human male population, keep the plants, the animals and oh yeah all the females for myself!


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Wha... 😱 Okay, you don't understand physics or at least space travel. 😀

i think you are confusing accelleration with inertia.

you tell me which moves faster with the same engine... a motorcycle.... or a fully loaded dump truck.

newton's second law.

A body will accelerate with acceleration proportional to the force and inversely proportional to the mass

accelleration = force DIVIDED by mass.

the higher the mass... the less the accelleration.

you tell me.. which number is bigger... 100/10 or 100/1000000000
 
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Hull breech, combined with destroyed fuel cylinders, so you can't keep the mass and still make it to the planet (actually you'd overshoot it because you can't slow down fast enough).

Why can't you turn off the engines and just drift to your destination. When you get close to the system, turn on the engines? Sure, it'll take a long time but you have cryostasis.
 
Why can't you turn off the engines and just drift to your destination. When you get close to the system, turn on the engines? Sure, it'll take a long time but you have cryostasis.

You're in space, you won't really slow down much at all since space is a near vacuumn. You need the engines to slow down and to land on the surface.
 
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