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DT4K

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Yes, it is hard to predict the future.
We supported the Afghanistan rebels fighting against the Soviets. Some of these people that we supported became the Taliban. At the time, the Soviets were a much bigger threat to us then any Afghani rebels.
We also supported Saddam for years before the Gulf War because he was fighting against Iran. At that time, Iran was a much bigger threat to us than Iraq.

There is no way we can predict the future and in many cases we have supported the "lesser of two evils" in a conflict to try to eliminate the threat of the side we consider to be more dangerous.

Maybe we shouldn't have supported Afghani rebels, but think of what may have happened if we hadn't. If the Soviets had managed to take control of Afghanistan, where would they have gone next.

Yes, we helped support groups that have become anti-american terrorists. But unless you can see the future, you can not say that things are worse than they would have been if we had taken a different position.

Should we have supported Germany instead of Russia in WW2? I mean, the russians became our enemies shortly after that. But we did what was best at the time.
 

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They developed a jet airplane to deliver the weapons to US coastal cities like LA and San Diego. But they couldn't get the engines to work correctly (and so the plane would not be able to make it there and back to Japan). So they enlisted the help of Boeing to build those engines (not telling them what they were for). But the process was difficult (remember, jet engines were experimental technology back then) and Boeing was having trouble keeping costs down. They were thinking about moving production to another country to lower costs, but apparently Japan thought this was taking too long and attacked Pearl Harbor instead.

It may be true but I have never seen a reference to Japan having developed a jet engine in the time frame you are referring to.

I would like to see some references.

Boeing made airplanes, not engines. If Boeing had the plans to the Japanese engine it would have been produced by the US once war broke out. The US got their plans for a jet engine from Britain.

edit/ the more I think about it the more this sounds like total BS. Early jet engines were not fuel efficient.

Challenge your professor on this story. I think he may just be seeing how much BS you youngens will take in.
 

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
interesting, yet creepy.

Thank god I'm canadian, no one wants to take us over.


I heard Minnesota was going to attack Canada and take it over
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: redly1
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
interesting, yet creepy.

Thank god I'm canadian, no one wants to take us over.


I heard Minnesota was going to attack Canada and take it over
Nah, Minnesotans don't want to go farther north. It's cold enough.
I think it was Alaska.
 

TallBill

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I heard that north dakota was going to invade canada.

Anyways, I've read about those balloon attacks. That and the japanese bringing planes onto special built submarines to bomb the west coast. Both were stupid plans and didnt work at all.
 

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Completely agree with ETECH...first jet engines were totally fuel inefficient...and Boeing never made engines...the closest they came is when Pratt & Whitney(engines), United Airlines, and Boeing were all United Aircraft & Transport until they were broken up by an antitrust case in 1934. That's not to mention that Pratt didn't even produce a jet engine until 1948.
 
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Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: 308nato
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
OK, show me some proof that they were gonna send bio weapons and chem weapons to the U.S. I call B.S. on that, ause 1. they didn't attack us due to hatred or mallice, they did it because they were desperate for OIL and supplies we controlled. They thought that if they could take out Pearl Harbor, they would destroy our morale, and be able to take the oil fields that we had intrest in and protected in the idian and asian areas.

They were mistaken.


I think disembowelment, decapitation, starvation, mutilation, torture and a thousand other acts commited by the Nips during the war from beginning to end pretty much show there was some malice there.

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Yeah, and our soilders were innocent of anything like that. Pull your head out of your ass. War is not pretty, for either side.

Okay. You stay in a Japanesse POW camp, I'll stay in an American (or sh*t even German) POW camp and we'll see who hates life more after a few weeks (that is assuming you don't get bayoneted during a death march).


Lethal

Well My grand dad was in WW2 in the pacific, He survived the death march. Thou before that happened, he saw US soilders doing things to Japanese soilders that were just as bad as what they did. They would shoot prisoners in the head, they would tie them up in the sun, beat others to death, use flame throwers on them. take turns whacking at one with a machetty. Make them dig graves for themselves, then push them in and bury them alive.