Scapegoats of society

Syringer

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Scapegoat

We're a simple people and with the 60s long gone, we like to take stances in order to feel important and join others in the same cause in blaming certain things for everything that's wrong in the world--and generally there's one specific target that we aim toward even though clones exist in every other direction. Usually it's because this target is the best or biggest, and it's so much more fun to take them down, and so much easier too! After all who actually likes to do critical thinking?

Here are some examples:

Hummer H2 - Yeah it's big, brash, and gets horrible mileage, but it's no bigger or worse for the environment than any other full sized SUV. The Hummer is the face of the whole anti-SUV movement, and people point at them for the fuel crisis, global warming, Mid-East conflicts, etc..but you never hear people give off the same criticisms when they see a Toyota Sequoia/Lexus LX470 or Benz GL out there, which are bigger and get marginally better fuel mileage than the Hummers/Escalades of the world (if they even do).. the same goes for performance sports cars that get mileage in the low-mid teen range that have zero utility (at least you can stuff a Hummer with lots of people/cargo).

Sure there's the whole image the Hummer H2 gives off that's part of the blame, but just from the standpoint of what's killing off baby seals, it's no worse than any number of popular vehicles out there.

Walmart - There's a million reasons to hate them--but for some reason they take all the criticism while Target gets none of it and is actually welcomed. Buying or supporting one is the equivalent of supporting the other. They both pay their employees about the same, both import their products from 3rd world countries, and if you shop at either you're most definitely not helping out the mom & pop/local businesses out there which apparently only Walmart is capable of driving out..

The only difference is a) Target charges more for their products and gives off some sort of image of "class" b) Walmart is way bigger, and c) Target's PR dept kills Walmart's.

So many anti-Walmart people who dislike them because they're killing mom/pop somehow think shopping at Target, or Home Depot or wherever is somehow helpful to the local business owners in their town, which is a ridiculous notion.

At least with Walmart there's the passing on of the slave labor wages from whatever 3rd world country that's making their products onto the lower class of America that truly can't afford to shop elsehwere (e.g. my parents when they first immigrated over here)--at Target you just ending up paying more for the same crappy products and providing them with higher profit margins.

I could go further but this article sums everything up (in a 3-page article) pretty well.

Barry Bonds - Yup he cheated at the sport, but so did all his peers, and he did it better than all the other cheaters. Maybe he shouldn't have lied about it, but the blame is laid on him because he was so good at cheating, and because he's a class A jackass, making it easier to point the finger to him.

McDonald's - They're unhealthy and will kill you young if you're eating all their popular items everyday--but uh the exact thing is true about every other restaurant out there. Not just the fast food places either, pretty much any popular item at any "trendy" restaurant, from Chili's, TGI Friday's, and Cheesecake Factory out there is going to be loaded with fat, calories, and will give you a heart attack. Restaurants rarely become popular because they're healthy--they become popular (and hence profitable) because of taste, and in order for things to taste good for Americans you need to add lots of butter and fat and cheese to their foods.

But McDonald's seen as the reason why everyone is fat and dying, when basically the joke of a documentary Supersize Me could've featured any restaurant out there and come to the same conclusion--eating lots of fatty foods makes you fat, OMG.

At least w/ McDonald's you'll have money left over to pay for the angioplasty.

Mmm $1 double cheeseburgers.

Aaron Rodgers - Poor guy, he's had nothing to do with Brett Favre flip flopping all over the place, Packers fans need to LEAVE AARON ALONE.

What else is out there?
 

ElFenix

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and in order for things to taste good for Americans you need to add lots of butter and fat and cheese to their foods.

umm, where is that not true?
 

rezinn

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Congratulations on 16666 Syringer.

I totally agree with you. However, when we have a problem we need to point the finger at someone first in order to set a precedent for change.
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
and in order for things to taste good for Americans you need to add lots of butter and fat and cheese to their foods.

umm, where is that not true?

From my experiences, in other countries you don't get asked if you want cheese with everything you order.
 
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Originally posted by: rezinn
Congratulations on 16666 Syringer.

I totally agree with you. However, when we have a problem we need to point the finger at someone first in order to set a precedent for change.

This.

In the case of McDonalds. Spurlock says that he could have chosen ANY restaurant he wanted to for his experiment. But he Chose McD because it was the biggest and most prominent and would get his message around faster.

You have to attack the big guys to try and break everything else down
 

IGBT

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..anybody that's in a good job or a business success. the whiners in society who want to free load and grift their way thru life will always attack the tax payer.
 

Bignate603

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Video games. Just because you play games it doesn't mean that you're going to go on a killing spree.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: herm0016
as far as rants go... this is not bad.

I agree, I was thoroughly entertained by this rant.

9/10, only because you didn't keep going.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: blinky8225
Us young people--according to you older, wiser people, we're hopeless.

And you older, wiser people for slowing us down on the road.
 

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H2 - I don't think anyone blames the H2 specifically, that's just stupid. People who dislike the H2 probably dislike the Suburban just as much. The H2 sold extremely well and became more fashionable than other large SUVs; one reason it sold so well was because of a tax loophole that made the price a lot more attractive. You can't blame people for being pissed about having to subsidize other people's gas guzzler.


Walmart - Target sells much of the same Chinese crap as Walmart, but the difference is that Walmart has the buying power to manipulate their suppliers. They demand lower prices, the result is lower quality, and that lower quality gets passed on to all of the other stores (including Target). They have also driven increases in efficiency, which is the positive side of that coin.

Target's image of "class" probably comes from the type of people who shop there more than anything else. You go into a Walmart, and your usually surrounded by a lot of white trash. The average income of Target shoppers is about 10k/year more than the average income of Walmart shoppers, so you obviously see a different crowd there. One of the reasons for that is that Target sells decent clothes; in recent years, Walmart has been trying to improve their clothing department to compete with Target (including putting in hardwood floors).

Another reason Target gets less hate than Walmart is because they donate a higher percentage of the company income than any other company in the US (or at least they did a few years ago, I'm sure they're up there pretty high still). Wal-mart doesn't donate nearly as much to charities; they do however let group have fundraisers outside their stores, which Target does not. Personally, I prefer not being guilted into buying crap from people who want to go to Florida with their softball team or their school band or whatever. Pay for your own kid's vacation.

And Walmart's employee issues go beyond low pay and poor benefits (which is what should be expected when you're working at Walmart or Target). They've had the accusations of sexism at the management level, IIRC they've been successfully sued for making employees work off the clock, and some other big stories in the last few years.

Walmart doesn't deserve all of the hate they get, but they're far from perfect.
 
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Originally posted by: Syringer

Aaron Rodgers - Poor guy, he's had nothing to do with Brett Favre flip flopping all over the place, Packers fans need to LEAVE AARON ALONE.

I assume that is meant to be a play on the Britney video guy? I don't see how he's a scapegoat, but whatever. I haven't seen a single person blame him.

Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: ElFenix
and in order for things to taste good for Americans you need to add lots of butter and fat and cheese to their foods.

umm, where is that not true?

From my experiences, in other countries you don't get asked if you want cheese with everything you order.

Or, as Hammond on Top Gear said: maybe they just think you might like cheese with it? Why are some cultures' food so dependent on sauces/spices? Again, not sure how that is a scapegoat at all.

Originally posted by: l0cke
Guns - inanimate objects that kill 1000's each year...

Well, to be fair, the whole point of guns is to kill things, their very existence would logically lead to killing. I agree about them being a scapegoat though.
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: Syringer

Aaron Rodgers - Poor guy, he's had nothing to do with Brett Favre flip flopping all over the place, Packers fans need to LEAVE AARON ALONE.

I assume that is meant to be a play on the Britney video guy? I don't see how he's a scapegoat, but whatever. I haven't seen a single person blame him.

You see if Aaron Rodgers didn't exist, Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy wouldn't have drafted him. They then wouldn't have any issues and Brett would still be hunting and fishing in Wisconsin right now.

(I say its Brett's fault for messing with the Packers the last few years, I can't wait till he stinks it up and the NY fans and media jumps all over him.)

Anyhow here are some other bogeyman

Video Games/Movies/Television for violence and decay in morals.

Microsoft for pretty much anything computer related.

The President. Crime, economy, natural disasters, its all the president's fault.

Lately its been the big bad oil companies. I suspect if Obama is president and his energy plan passes with the 1 million plug in cars, it'll be the coal and propane industry, followed by whatever else we use to produce electricity.



 

zinfamous

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I have scapegoated McDonald's for the better part of 15 years now, for just those reasons.

and I'm still quite proud to do it. :)

and, the reason we point at McDonald's is b/c they represent the change in American diet that made us all fat, lazy, and ignorant. They were the first big success that lead to the fast-food craze that has doomed us all towards heart disease. Sure, if it wasn't them it would have been someone else, and there are indeed plenty of other places out there that are now just as bad, if not worse for you, as McDonald's.

But the fact remains, it WAS them, so they get the finger.