SC Double Agent framerate

CP5670

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I was planning to get this game as soon as it came out on the PC, but I tried the demo last weekend and the engine performance was horrendous. I was using only 1024x768 without AA (although with the next gen setting, since the standard mode apparently doesn't work in the demo) and the framerate was consistently falling into the mid 20s even though it didn't look anywhere near as good as the last SC game. On top of that, the physics engine had a very prominent lag/stutter to it and made Fisher's movements look choppy even in the rare situations when the framerate was good.

Do any of you have this game? What does the full version (with all the patches) run like? I don't know if this is simply a case of an unoptimized demo or if the engine is indeed that badly programmed, as I can't find any video card reviews that cover this game. I am willing to turn down the graphics a bit to get decent framerates, but this is quite ridiculous.

I have been anticipating this game for a long time, but now I'm not sure whether to buy it or not. :(
 

Warren21

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This is a well known issue. My friend has an Opty 144 OC'ed to 3.0 GHz, 1 GB of OCZ Plat 2-2-2-5 PC3200 and dual 7800 GT's in SLI on an A8N32-SLI, and it lagged on his system playing at 1024 x 768 in a window.
 

Drayvn

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Mine worked flawlessly.

C2D 2.13Ghz
1900XT
2Gb DDR2-800

It worked great and now that ive OCed my C2D to 3.2 its even better.

Though i did try this with the retail game straight away and not with the demo, it could be just the demo...

I had my graphics all set to the highest as well and it never ran slow except for some really complicated scenes.
 

oddity21

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Game's badly borked on my rig.

C2D E6600
8800GTX
2GB
Everything at stock.

Sometimes it crashes. Sometimes I get heavily corrupted graphics. I guess it's a driver issue.
 

TheRyuu

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Another thing, how the fsck do I get a resolution above 1280x960 for my 20.1in monitor???
I want 1680x1050.

Why the fsck can't game companies make better resolution support.
(same thing with GRAW, but with GRAW I was able to edit inf)
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: oddity21
Game's badly borked on my rig.

C2D E6600
8800GTX
2GB
Everything at stock.

Sometimes it crashes. Sometimes I get heavily corrupted graphics. I guess it's a driver issue.

Yeah apprently there's an issue with the 8800 cards...as well as some other nVidia cards. I tried it on my 8800GTS and got the same thing you did.
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: oddity21
Game's badly borked on my rig.

C2D E6600
8800GTX
2GB
Everything at stock.

Sometimes it crashes. Sometimes I get heavily corrupted graphics. I guess it's a driver issue.

Yeah apprently there's an issue with the 8800 cards...as well as some other nVidia cards. I tried it on my 8800GTS and got the same thing you did.

So did anyone of you managed to play it w/o corrupted textures with a 8800gtx?
Because I haven't managed it not a single time.. Game works everytime but with the issues mentioned above, it's unplayable..
 

lopri

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Originally posted by: Warren21
This is a well known issue. My friend has an Opty 144 OC'ed to 3.0 GHz, 1 GB of OCZ Plat 2-2-2-5 PC3200 and dual 7800 GT's in SLI on an A8N32-SLI, and it lagged on his system playing at 1024 x 768 in a window.

I thought SLI has an issue with 3D in Window-ed mode? (I don't think SLI works in Windows mode)
 

lopri

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Oh well and I can't even start the game. I get an error message at launching.
 

CKXP

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is this the full version or demo that's causing these issues? i was thinking about downloading this tonight....but maybe not.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: jim1976
So did anyone of you managed to play it w/o corrupted textures with a 8800gtx?
Because I haven't managed it not a single time.. Game works everytime but with the issues mentioned above, it's unplayable..

I get the corrupted textures in the demo, and the retail version started for me once...gave the corrupted textures, and now refuses to start period with an error when I click the shortcut. I was really looking forward to playing this game too. Apparently the PC version is very buggy...I wish they had spent a bit more time porting it from the Xbox 360.
 

akshayt

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I don't understand what you are talking about. This is one of those games which runs fine (not perfect) on my PC.
I am talking of Vista RC1. The game runs fine at 12x9 Next Gen with FPS mostly in the 30s(if I have oced to 2.4GHz), on stock I often get 20s. Overclocking makes a huge difference to this game. I am talking of the single player demo. I have hardly played the game, only the initial ice part after which you go into the water, and yes, going into the water decreases FPS in the 20s even after overclocking. But this is with a single core A64.

Something must be wrong with your drivers, I can show you a video for proof, if you want. Also, the graphics to me look stunning to say the least(atleast the initial video), much better than almost anything I have seen till date. Downside: hogs 10GB space!

If anybody is having problems with their overclocked systems, I would advice trying at stock as even I do have some jerkiness issues with this game with my OC, although the FPS increase and it helps in some areas but also causes jerkiness which wasn't there previously, I will try it again to confirm though.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: akshayt
I don't understand what you are talking about. This is one of those games which runs fine (not perfect) on my PC.
I am talking of Vista RC1. The game runs fine at 12x9 Next Gen with FPS mostly in the 30s(if I have oced to 2.4GHz), on stock I often get 20s. Overclocking makes a huge difference to this game. I am talking of the single player demo. I have hardly played the game, only the initial ice part after which you go into the water, and yes, going into the water decreases FPS in the 20s even after overclocking. But this is with a single core A64.

Something must be wrong with your drivers, I can show you a video for proof, if you want. Also, the graphics to me look stunning to say the least(atleast the initial video), much better than almost anything I have seen till date. Downside: hogs 10GB space!

If anybody is having problems with their overclocked systems, I would advice trying at stock as even I do have some jerkiness issues with this game with my OC, although the FPS increase and it helps in some areas but also causes jerkiness which wasn't there previously, I will try it again to confirm though.

PLEASE STOP GIVING PEOPLE ADVICE

you have no idea what you are talking about....give up trying to be a techie, my 2 week old daughter could do a better job than you.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: akshayt
I don't understand what you are talking about. This is one of those games which runs fine (not perfect) on my PC.
I am talking of Vista RC1. The game runs fine at 12x9 Next Gen with FPS mostly in the 30s(if I have oced to 2.4GHz), on stock I often get 20s. Overclocking makes a huge difference to this game. I am talking of the single player demo. I have hardly played the game, only the initial ice part after which you go into the water, and yes, going into the water decreases FPS in the 20s even after overclocking. But this is with a single core A64.

Something must be wrong with your drivers, I can show you a video for proof, if you want. Also, the graphics to me look stunning to say the least(atleast the initial video), much better than almost anything I have seen till date. Downside: hogs 10GB space!

If anybody is having problems with their overclocked systems, I would advice trying at stock as even I do have some jerkiness issues with this game with my OC, although the FPS increase and it helps in some areas but also causes jerkiness which wasn't there previously, I will try it again to confirm though.

Did you not read my post?? It's an issue that's most likely related to Nvidia 8800 drivers. From the forums I've read, the people with ATI cards are not having so many issues so your X1900XT should run it fine, as you've posted it does...good for you. Meanwhile, other people DO have issues, and it's not because of their overclocks.


 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: akshayt
I don't understand what you are talking about. This is one of those games which runs fine (not perfect) on my PC.
I am talking of Vista RC1. The game runs fine at 12x9 Next Gen with FPS mostly in the 30s(if I have oced to 2.4GHz), on stock I often get 20s. Overclocking makes a huge difference to this game. I am talking of the single player demo. I have hardly played the game, only the initial ice part after which you go into the water, and yes, going into the water decreases FPS in the 20s even after overclocking. But this is with a single core A64.

Something must be wrong with your drivers, I can show you a video for proof, if you want. Also, the graphics to me look stunning to say the least(atleast the initial video), much better than almost anything I have seen till date. Downside: hogs 10GB space!

If anybody is having problems with their overclocked systems, I would advice trying at stock as even I do have some jerkiness issues with this game with my OC, although the FPS increase and it helps in some areas but also causes jerkiness which wasn't there previously, I will try it again to confirm though.

Did you not read my post?? It's an issue with Nvidia 8800 drivers. From the forums I've read, the people with ATI cards are not having so many issues so your X1900XT should run it fine, as you've posted it does...good for you. Meanwhile, other people DO have issues, and it's not because of their overclocks.

Akshayt is an Idiot...pay no attention to him
 

CP5670

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I am actually running into these issues with the demo on an X1900XTX, not an 8800. I have been reading some reviews of this game and some comment on the poor performance while others don't mention it at all. It's hard to tell whether the other reviews are simply ignoring this or the problem is specific to certain computer configurations.

Mine worked flawlessly.

C2D 2.13Ghz
1900XT
2Gb DDR2-800

It worked great and now that ive OCed my C2D to 3.2 its even better.

Though i did try this with the retail game straight away and not with the demo, it could be just the demo...

I had my graphics all set to the highest as well and it never ran slow except for some really complicated scenes.

What resolution is that on and what kind of framerates are you generally getting?

I don't understand what you are talking about. This is one of those games which runs fine (not perfect) on my PC.
I am talking of Vista RC1. The game runs fine at 12x9 Next Gen with FPS mostly in the 30s(if I have oced to 2.4GHz), on stock I often get 20s. Overclocking makes a huge difference to this game. I am talking of the single player demo. I have hardly played the game, only the initial ice part after which you go into the water, and yes, going into the water decreases FPS in the 20s even after overclocking. But this is with a single core A64.

Something must be wrong with your drivers, I can show you a video for proof, if you want. Also, the graphics to me look stunning to say the least(atleast the initial video), much better than almost anything I have seen till date. Downside: hogs 10GB space!

What are you talking about? The framerate underwater is much better (hovers in the 50s) than what you get outside. That is about the only place where the demo runs acceptably. Also, you're saying that the game runs well but the framerates you mention don't sound very good.

Chaos Theory looked far better than this as far as I can see, and I could get a more or less constant 60fps at 1600x1200 in that. In stark contrast to CT, the bloom effect in this demo is heavily exaggerated, many of the textures look blurry and the shadows have an ugly, jagged look to them.
 

akshayt

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Mine runs much worse under water atleast FPS wise than in the ice. I get half your FPS atleast under water. Keep in mind I am running the game in Vista.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: akshayt
Mine runs much worse under water atleast FPS wise than in the ice. I get half your FPS atleast under water. Keep in mind I am running the game in Vista.

you're a fscking wanker...stop posting.
 

josh6079

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Tried the demo, had glitches all over the place, didn't have AA....this game is far from amazing so far. I was really interested in it from hearing how they tried to really grip you with the story line, but a game today without AA is just absolutely retarded and not worth buying.
 

CP5670

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I posted this in Software last week:

Can you rename the exe to Oblivion.exe and use that chuck patch? A few months ago someone in video said this works in Chaos Theory, although I never tried it.

I guess it doesn't matter much to me, given the atrocious performance even without AA. :p
 

m21s

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Tried the demo, had glitches all over the place, didn't have AA....this game is far from amazing so far. I was really interested in it from hearing how they tried to really grip you with the story line, but a game today without AA is just absolutely retarded and not worth buying.



Apply the patch they have available. (If you have the full version)

They added AA support in the patch.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: m21s
Originally posted by: josh6079
Tried the demo, had glitches all over the place, didn't have AA....this game is far from amazing so far. I was really interested in it from hearing how they tried to really grip you with the story line, but a game today without AA is just absolutely retarded and not worth buying.



Apply the patch they have available. (If you have the full version)

They added AA support in the patch.

I only had the demo, but if the retail version can use AA with SM3.0 I might reconsider.

Do they allow AA while using SM3.0 with the patch you speak of and the retail version?
 

Kelnoen

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Originally posted by: Stumps

PLEASE STOP GIVING PEOPLE ADVICE

you have no idea what you are talking about....give up trying to be a techie, my 2 week old daughter could do a better job than you.

£50 against the kid (no offence) haha