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SB based Pentiums on the way

Oh man this is really cool looks like intel is throwing down the gauntlet on the low end
challenging AMD on the low end while Amd is reaching for the Top. Hmmmm. These are really a nice deal with Intel HD 2000 integrated graphics @ $70- $86 dollars and really low wattage, intel has come through, cant wait for the reviews. I hope Amd answers accordingly and provides us with a Dual or Tri core Bulldozer at the same price range.
 
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eternalone said:
Oh man this is really cool looks like intel is throwing down the gauntlet on the low end
challenging AMD on the low end while Amd is reaching for the Top. Hmmmm. These are really a nice deal with Intel HD 2000 integrated graphics @ $70- $86 dollars and really low wattage, intel has come through, cant wait for the reviews. I hope Amd answers accordingly and provides us with a Dual or Tri core Bulldozer at the same price range.
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Cut down Bulldozers will not be AMD's answer to Intel's release of Sandy Bridge Pentiums. These Intel chips are clearly designed to compete with AMD's soon to be released dual core Llano APUs. It will be interesting to see how the mid and low end Llanos compete with SB Pentiums - the higher end Llanos (the quads) are more appropriately compared to the i3 dual cores.

I suspect the SB Pentiums will offer higher IPC than the Llano CPUs, but the HD 2000 video will not be competitive against the integrated Radeon HD GPUs of the Llano APUs. Essentially, this is Intel recognizing that AMD could increase its low-end marketshare - the Athlon IIs already outcompete Intel's low end offerings in basically every consideration except power consumption - just imagine Llano APUs vs. Core 2 derived Celerons and Pentiums!
 
Gigantopithecus said:
Cut down Bulldozers will not be AMD's answer to Intel's release of Sandy Bridge Pentiums. These Intel chips are clearly designed to compete with AMD's soon to be released dual core Llano APUs. It will be interesting to see how the mid and low end Llanos compete with SB Pentiums - the higher end Llanos (the quads) are more appropriately compared to the i3 dual cores.

I suspect the SB Pentiums will offer higher IPC than the Llano CPUs, but the HD 2000 video will not be competitive against the integrated Radeon HD GPUs of the Llano APUs. Essentially, this is Intel recognizing that AMD could increase its low-end marketshare - the Athlon IIs already outcompete Intel's low end offerings in basically every consideration except power consumption - just imagine Llano APUs vs. Core 2 derived Celerons and Pentiums!
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your probably right llano completely slipped my mind, I was so amazed that intel is actually making a run for the low end cpu market.
 
I think an important part will be the software support for HTPC / home server applications. Depends which hardware acceleration will be supported in the software.
 
hard to get too excited about any of these, unlike the good-ole days of the previous Core based Pentiums, these won't be overclockable at all, let alone wildly successful overclockers (and I highly doubt there will be a K version like there is rumored for the i3)

I still have a Pentium E2140 that I could achieve a 100% overclock on, taking it from 1.6GHz to 3.2GHz 😛
 
Gigantopithecus said:
Cut down Bulldozers will not be AMD's answer to Intel's release of Sandy Bridge Pentiums. These Intel chips are clearly designed to compete with AMD's soon to be released dual core Llano APUs. It will be interesting to see how the mid and low end Llanos compete with SB Pentiums - the higher end Llanos (the quads) are more appropriately compared to the i3 dual cores.

I suspect the SB Pentiums will offer higher IPC than the Llano CPUs, but the HD 2000 video will not be competitive against the integrated Radeon HD GPUs of the Llano APUs. Essentially, this is Intel recognizing that AMD could increase its low-end marketshare - the Athlon IIs already outcompete Intel's low end offerings in basically every consideration except power consumption - just imagine Llano APUs vs. Core 2 derived Celerons and Pentiums!
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im sure these are designed to compete with whatever remains of the AM3 chips remaining for a few months and the dual core llano (the A4 and E2 or whatever)
 
bunnyfubbles said:
hard to get too excited about any of these, unlike the good-ole days of the previous Core based Pentiums, these won't be overclockable at all, let alone wildly successful overclockers (and I highly doubt there will be a K version like there is rumored for the i3)
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Yeah, that's somewhat of a disappointment. Still, this bodes well for super low power draw in systems like home servers, HTPCs, etc. It makes Atoms totally irrelevant until the next gen when they go something like 3W TDP, unless that's not for desktops.
 
bunnyfubbles said:
hard to get too excited about any of these, unlike the good-ole days of the previous Core based Pentiums, these won't be overclockable at all, let alone wildly successful overclockers (and I highly doubt there will be a K version like there is rumored for the i3)

I still have a Pentium E2140 that I could achieve a 100% overclock on, taking it from 1.6GHz to 3.2GHz 😛
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Yea from a home builder/overclocker these will leave off one of the biggest reason to buy, overclock.

Rather get a Llano that can overclock and have much better video.
 
it is really frustrating that people dont take these parts seriously. When you take all general pc usage into account, including youtube and facebook games, a pentium G620 is more powerful than what is in 90% of the computers out there. And yet I can buy a cpu / mobo / 4 gb ram combo with a G620 for $158? Yet there is still no real reviews or benchmarks on it? Can i get a wtf?? This is freakin surreal. It's like the G620 is as vapory as Llano. Do any of these parts actually exist at all?

And now there is a G620T that is only 35 watts? You'd think that would be of interest to people? Sheesh... Given the price (~$75) and performance of such a chip, I cant understand the lack of interest.
 
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Are these the desktop variants of the B lineup that are available for laptops? Hp has been selling SB based pentium in the dv4-4030us called the b950 for awhile now.
 
sm625 said:
it is really frustrating that people dont take these parts seriously. When you take all general pc usage into account, including youtube and facebook games, a pentium G620 is more powerful than what is in 90% of the computers out there. And yet I can buy a cpu / mobo / 4 gb ram combo with a G620 for $158? Yet there is still no real reviews or benchmarks on it? Can i get a wtf?? This is freakin surreal. It's like the G620 is as vapory as Llano. Do any of these parts actually exist at all?

And now there is a G620T that is only 35 watts? You'd think that would be of interest to people? Sheesh... Given the price (~$75) and performance of such a chip, I cant understand the lack of interest.
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People don't take it seriously because comparing CPU cost is the wrong way to go about it. You need to compare overall system cost. And the CPU is such a overwhelming component of system performance (and one of the hardest to replace) that it should be one of the last areas you skimp on. People skimp on cases, keyboards, hard drive, RAM etc. before they consider cutting down the CPU. Even for a gamer, GPU is arguably a better area to cut on, considering how much easier and more frequent their upgrades are.

When you come down to it, for a $800 rig, the difference between a Pentium and a i3 is only 6-8% of overall system cost. Even compared to an i5 its only a 12-15% difference. Hence I won't consider skimping on them unless you are really tight on the budget (like $300-$400 range) and you have exhausted all possible savings elsewhere in your build.
 
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