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Say that you've got just a few years to live

hiromizu

Diamond Member
a very painful life that you no longer want to live through anymore due to an endless tirade of diseases, severe major depression and diagnosed with antisocial disorder and you no longer have anyone in your life that you have an ounce of sympathy for except perhaps a younger struggling sibling who's a bit too left leaning for your tastes which is a bit of an nuisance.

You don't care to meet new people anymore as you're tired of harming them or bored of it rather and exposing your true self. Part of you desperately wants to improve and change but you can't because the things you learn to improve actually creates more destructive ideas to harm others.

You are reckless, spontaneous and only feel just a slight bit of joy from extremities, whatever that may be. Anything else is boring and quite simply a waste of time and energy unless you're doing that to fit in socially, which then you show highly convincing emotions although they are not genuine.

You are young (say 30) and generally considered very good looking and you are in very good physical shape from the outside. With people, you make a very good first impression until they catch on, then you shut them out of your life completely and move on to new things. Your insides, both physical and mental are a hopeless clinical mess.

You have plenty of money sitting around in investments but you simply don't care about them anymore. You have no house, no car and completely debt-free and quite frankly, like it that way. You have a decent paying job, live in NYC and future prosperity doesn't look bad although you'll never get to enjoy it.

What would you do? I know that the typical ATOT answer would be to /yourself which is IMHO perhaps even the most rational thing to do but otherwise being creative, unwitty and somewhat uplifting, what would you do?
 
VINCENT
So if you're quitting the life,
what'll you do?

JULES
That's what I've been sitting here
contemplating. First, I'm gonna
deliver this case to Marsellus.
Then, basically, I'm gonna walk the
earth.

VINCENT
What do you mean, walk the earth?

JULES
You know, like Caine in "KUNG FU."
Just walk from town to town, meet
people, get in adventures.

VINCENT
How long do you intend to walk the
earth?

JULES
Until God puts me where he want me
to be.

VINCENT
What if he never does?

JULES
If it takes forever, I'll wait
forever.

VINCENT
So you decided to be a bum?

JULES
I'll just be Jules, Vincent -- no
more, no less.

VINCENT
No Jules, you're gonna be like
those pieces of shit out there who
beg for change. They walk around
like a bunch of fuckin' zombies,
they sleep in garbage bins, they
eat what I throw away, and dogs
piss on 'em. They got a word for
'em, they're called bums. And
without a job, residence, or legal
tender, that's what you're gonna be
-- a fuckin' bum!

JULES
Look my friend, this is just where
me and you differ --

VINCENT
-- what happened was peculiar -- no
doubt about it -- but it wasn't
water into wine.

JULES
All shapes and sizes, Vince.

VINCENT
Stop fuckin' talkin' like that!

JULES
If you find my answers frightening,
Vincent, you should cease askin'
scary questions.

VINCENT
When did you make this decision --
while you were sitting there eatin'
your muffin?

JULES
Yeah. I was just sitting here
drinking my coffee, eating my
muffin, playin' the incident in my
head, when I had what alcoholics
refer to as a "moment of clarity."

VINCENT
I gotta take a shit. To be
continued.
 
If suicide seems like the best option at that point, erase all sense of hope of a future for yourself, and go volunteer for someone else, for some other cause.

Might as well put your body and brain to some good use.



 
Originally posted by: Farang
VINCENT
So if you're quitting the life,
what'll you do?

JULES
That's what I've been sitting here
contemplating. First, I'm gonna
deliver this case to Marsellus.
Then, basically, I'm gonna walk the
earth.

VINCENT
What do you mean, walk the earth?

JULES
You know, like Caine in "KUNG FU."
Just walk from town to town, meet
people, get in adventures.

VINCENT
How long do you intend to walk the
earth?

JULES
Until God puts me where he want me
to be.

VINCENT
What if he never does?

JULES
If it takes forever, I'll wait
forever.

VINCENT
So you decided to be a bum?

JULES
I'll just be Jules, Vincent -- no
more, no less.

VINCENT
No Jules, you're gonna be like
those pieces of shit out there who
beg for change. They walk around
like a bunch of fuckin' zombies,
they sleep in garbage bins, they
eat what I throw away, and dogs
piss on 'em. They got a word for
'em, they're called bums. And
without a job, residence, or legal
tender, that's what you're gonna be
-- a fuckin' bum!

JULES
Look my friend, this is just where
me and you differ --

VINCENT
-- what happened was peculiar -- no
doubt about it -- but it wasn't
water into wine.

JULES
All shapes and sizes, Vince.

VINCENT
Stop fuckin' talkin' like that!

JULES
If you find my answers frightening,
Vincent, you should cease askin'
scary questions.

VINCENT
When did you make this decision --
while you were sitting there eatin'
your muffin?

JULES
Yeah. I was just sitting here
drinking my coffee, eating my
muffin, playin' the incident in my
head, when I had what alcoholics
refer to as a "moment of clarity."

VINCENT
I gotta take a shit. To be
continued.

?
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I'd go shoot things randomly.

Well let's say that your new motive is not to harm anyone so joining the military, killing, shooting etc. is out of the question. Charity seems interesting except there's nothing in it emotionally for the character and it certainly doesn't add any weight to the wallet.
 
Give me the bulk of the money, keep just enough to travel to Tibet. Once there get directions to an isolated monastery located on top of a difficult peak. Climb there on your hands and knees and beg the monks to take you in so that you can learn from them the meaning of life and find inner peace.


Step one is to give me the bulk of the money. Get on with it.
 
Originally posted by: hiromizu
You have plenty of money sitting around in investments but you simply don't care about them anymore. You have no house, no car and completely debt-free and quite frankly, like it that way. You have a decent paying job, live in NYC and future prosperity doesn't look bad although you'll never get to enjoy it.

What would you do?

I'd give all my money to the first Senior Moderator to answer this question . . . hypothetically speaking, of course.

 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
If suicide seems like the best option at that point, erase all sense of hope of a future for yourself, and go volunteer for someone else, for some other cause.

Might as well put your body and brain to some good use.

This.

Suicide is the most worthless thought humanity has ever given itself.

Doing something that may get you killed, and actually just deciding to off yourself where you sit... two different things. I have no sympathy for the suicidal folks. And this is from someone who the easy way out has crossed the mind. Life is a bitch, whoever coined that phrase spoke the gospel right there.

Personally, I'm a realist and pessimist, and have no real hope for humanity unless I'm in my futurist mode and am thinking that one day, mankind will change and become a galaxy-spanning race. 😀
I'll joke about the best methods to play the easy way out card. But it's the most worthless thing a human can do.
No matter how shitty life is, the goal of all mankind should be to do at least one thing in life that has the potential to improve life for future generations, even if its simply seeding an idea for change. Not everyone will be capable of executing their ideas they have for the future betterment of humanity, but everyone will have an idea that crosses their mind. And everyone is capable of joining a cause that is above them.

One doesn't need to be a giving person, doesn't need to be one who will donate time and money to causes for the orphans and sickened children or whatever. There are multiple ways to donate oneself to a potentially better future.

The military, and if I make it through that, potentially a political or government career, is what I've decided. And to write fiction novels that incorporate all my ideas, from my most cynical to the ones that have real bearing on our future. Kind of like Ayn Rand, but less of a bitch and a more enjoyable read. Have a whole multi-novel story in my mind, no time to devote to writing anything more than scratch notes for later though.

However, that's should be one of the most basic instincts for man though, and that's the way I treat it. Find a woman to spend life with, hopefully produce a male child to carry on my bloodline, family name, and to groom to be better than me... but above that, devote my life to what I can do to better man. Right now I cannot do jack shit that is something I can devote to. But a military career where I'll put everyone above myself is what I envision, and hope to at least have a surviving male child in case shit hits the fan... failing right now in terms of progress towards that goal. 🙁:laugh:
But it's that hope that I can do something above and beyond myself, the most important goal, that keeps me going through the worst. Sadly I rarely live in the here and now, procrastinating everything until the last minute, that gets me into trouble and stress that I struggle to find an effective way to push past. But that's what everyone should have - anyone who ever feels the slightest bit of depression, or so stressed they find no way out of, to look past the here and now and make a pact to devote oneself to something, and use that strength of future goals to push past the stress of the present. Nothing is ever so terrible in the present that a future goal will hold you back. When we put our creative minds to work we can find a way through, around, or to skip over the worst we find ourselves in in the present, as long as you have the clarity of mind to continue holding onto achievable goals in the far and near future.
Make life a list of goals, some achievable, and some that require many goals before them to be reached, as well as some that you may not even be able to figure out a path towards until much time has passed. Don't dwell on anything though, just live and keep pushing on.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Suicide is the most worthless thought humanity has ever given itself.
Well, not really. Suicide, you just die alone.
More worthless: Murder + suicide.
Even more worthless: Finding your way to power and become a maniacal military dictator who is responsible for killing millions + suicide. 😉


Personally, I'm a realist and pessimist, and have no real hope for humanity unless I'm in my futurist mode and am thinking that one day, mankind will change and become a galaxy-spanning race. 😀
We can always hope. 🙂
First we've got to get past these ingrown self-predatory ways we seem to have. Cities are largely free of severe disease and large predators, so we then prey on one another. Just think about the philosophy behind things like locks and encryption - things done just so that fellow humans won't destroy or injure us in some way. Think of how much money is poured into security, or how much is poured into offensive and defensive weaponry, for the sole purpose of being used on other people. It's sad and pathetic enough to make you want to spit in humanity's face.


No matter how shitty life is, the goal of all mankind should be to do at least one thing in life that has the potential to improve life for future generations, even if its simply seeding an idea for change.
But what if you're truly so pathetic and worthless that the best thing you can do is stimulate the economy by buying and using a gun and a bullet? 😛


Kind of like Ayn Rand, but less of a bitch and a more enjoyable read. Have a whole multi-novel story in my mind, no time to devote to writing anything more than scratch notes for later though.
We'll just copy and paste all of your posts from these forums. It'd give War and Peace a run for its money in terms of sheer length. :laugh:


The unfortunate thing about feeling truly depressed and hopeless is just that - feeling hopeless means that you can see no way for things to ever improve. Perceptions limit your reality, so if hope isn't seen, then within your own mind, you don't think anything better can possibly exist. And once within this depressed mindset, it can be tough to emerge from it; the mindset develops a life of its own, resisting attempts to snuff it out. In addition, leaving that mental realm can by itself be unsettling. It can become comfortable through simple familiarity. You know what it's like to feel depressed and hopeless. Feeling cheerful and somewhat outgoing is new territory, and that can be frightening.

Depression is a tough place to be, and the longer you stay there, the more familiar a place it becomes, and the worse it gets.

 
Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I'd go shoot things randomly.

Well let's say that your new motive is not to harm anyone so joining the military, killing, shooting etc. is out of the question. Charity seems interesting except there's nothing in it emotionally for the character and it certainly doesn't add any weight to the wallet.

Can't harm anyone? Screw that. I'd rather just die then.
 
I would buy a nice sailboat, learn to sail, then sail anywhere I please for the rest of my life.

-KeithP
 
Find a good psychologist, and fuck the several years to live. Doctors gave my mom 5 years to live 11 years ago. Granted they haven't been good years per-se, but she's still alive and in possession of her core faculties. There's something to be said for survival. Giving up won't get you anywhere.
 
Yes, this is about me. Me me me me. I guess it doesn't hurt to admit it. Now that that's out of the way, I will say that suicide is not an option because it's much too easy to think about and I am also forced to value life as I've watched my mother defiantly fight cancer until the very end for many years. I couldn't insult her that way and that's part of the tragedy, but I don't want to display myself as someone who's crying out for help either although in the end it really is so I'm trying to make less drama out of it.

I am not giving up as I am looking for creative ideas on getting out of this seemingly impossible hole that I've dug myself into. I've been depressed for 2 decades so as you can imagine, I'm a bit of a bitter descent. I have many characteristics of a sociopath minus the manipulative, destructive aspects of it so I do have some hope, but I just can't see it. Perhaps it's my logical, pessimistic thought process or the depression that's getting in the way. I am also not an advocate of taking drugs like antidepressants either so I must rely on my wits.

I've created this thread as a canvas for brainstorming for myself and others who may be in a similar boat so I hope that you continue posting and replying with your ideas. I've already picked up on a few and appreciate it (or do I? heheh)
 
I'd see a counselor or something and try to get out of it. Would not be easy though... I'd have to get someone to make sure I have zero access to sharp objects, ropes, or anything I can snap my neck in. Padded cell ftw?
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I'd see a counselor or something and try to get out of it. Would not be easy though... I'd have to get someone to make sure I have zero access to sharp objects, ropes, or anything I can snap my neck in. Padded cell ftw?

I am seeing a counselor, one of the better ones but I feel that there are people here that can better relate and thus give more meaningful thoughts. The counseling alone isn't helping.
 
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