Say something nice about liberals

[Steeplerot]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/23/aids-usa-idCNN2315623720100923



Yeah because quoting CDC statistics is "embarrassing myself"

It says nothing of the sort, it says in some of the major cities...now think.

Why do gays go to major cities? Because they are discriminated against.

Cherrypicked data to justify homophobic nonsense by a well known ultra misogynistic twit.

What next? Gonna teach us why African-American people are dirty because there is more sickle cell anemia in cities too?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/23/aids-usa-idCNN2315623720100923



Yeah because quoting CDC statistics is "embarrassing myself"

You missed the point. It's not the number of gay men who have aids I dispute, it's the idea that aids is more likely to be spread by anal sex than vaginal. If your partner is a woman with aids, you have as much chance of contracting aids either way. You're embarrassing yourself because you gave the impression that you think aids is a gay disease.

 

[Steeplerot]

You missed the point. It's not the number of gay men who have aids I dispute, it's the idea that aids is more likely to be spread by anal sex than vaginal. If your partner is a woman with aids, you have as much chance of contracting aids either way. You're embarrassing yourself because you gave the impression that you think aids is a gay disease.

The gist of his posts usually can be summed up with god hates f$@s, out of wedlock mothers, women, liberals etc etc

We have people like that on skid row here. Thing is we can yell out the window for them to go to sleep, they have been up 3 days on meth hallucinating.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

The gist of his posts usually can be summed up with god hates f$@s, out of wedlock mothers, women, liberals etc etc

We have people like that on skid row here. Thing is we can yell out the window for them to go to sleep, they have been up 3 days on meth hallucinating.

Gotcha, he hadn't registered on my radar yet.

 

[nehalem256]

Wow, you're a fucking retard.

From the quote YOU posted:

"Nearly one in five gay and bisexual men in 21 major U.S. cities are infected with HIV, and nearly half of them do not know it, U.S. health officials said on Thursday."

Nowhere does it say 1 in 5 gay men in America have HIV.

Researchers at the CDC studied 8,153 men who have sex with men in 21 U.S. cities. The men were taking part in the 2008 National HIV Behavioral Surveillance System, which looked at prevalence and awareness of the human immunodeficiency virus or HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

Sorry that the study did not survey every gay person in America

 

[nehalem256]

You missed the point. It's not the number of gay men who have aids I dispute, it's the idea that aids is more likely to be spread by anal sex than vaginal. If your partner is a woman with aids, you have as much chance of contracting aids either way. You're embarrassing yourself because you gave the impression that you think aids is a gay disease.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm

Unprotected anal sex is riskier than unprotected vaginal sex.

So you are disputing the cdc?

 

[dali71]

You missed the point. It's not the number of gay men who have aids I dispute, it's the idea that aids is more likely to be spread by anal sex than vaginal. If your partner is a woman with aids, you have as much chance of contracting aids either way. You're embarrassing yourself because you gave the impression that you think aids is a gay disease.

New HIV Risk Estimates Are In: Anal Versus Vaginal Sex

Researchers from Imperial College and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine did a meta-analysis of 16 studies related to HIV risk during unprotected anal sex. Most of the studies involved gay or bisexual men. (Our friends at NAM recently summarized the findings in detail.) They estimated that HIV transmission risk during a single act of unprotected, receptive anal sex may be 18 times higher than unprotected, receptive vaginal sex: 1.4 percent compared to 0.08 percent. The estimated risk for unprotected, insertive anal sex was, as expected, found to be lower (0.62 percent) than for receptive anal sex -- and lower still if the man is circumcised (0.11 percent). Still, the risk percentages are all higher for anal sex than vaginal sex, which is in line with earlier study findings.

 

[Steeplerot]

Sorry that the study did not survey every gay person in America

Semantics, the point is that this is not even a cross section, it is a few cities.

You are the one that stated that ALL 1/5 of the population have HIV.

The CDC says nothing of the sort, you are blatantly misrepresenting a minority to fit your
religious extremist views that gay folks are cursed by HIV and it is thus a "gay disease".

HIV is pretty much cured now, guess your god never hated gays, maybe he was testing them like he did the Jews and early Christians in the bible.

Wait, maybe..just maybe you have no idea what god thinks or is about and you talk out your ass like you could ever know gods agenda well enough to speak for him.

Isn't that a sin btw? Yes it is.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm



So you are disputing the cdc?

I dispute your comprehension of the included link. "All unprotected sex with someone who has HIV contains some risk." is also stated and, no actual numbers are listed in that article. I say again that, you are embarrassing yourself because you gave the impression you think aids is a gay disease. You haven't refuted that so far.

 

[Smoblikat]

They like giving illegals my hard earned money for free.

 

[nehalem256]

Semantics, the point is that this is not even a cross section, it is a few cities.

You are the one that stated that ALL 1/5 of the population have HIV.

The CDC says nothing of the sort, you are blatantly misrepresenting a minority to fit your
religious extremist views that gay folks are cursed by HIV and it is thus a "gay disease".

HIV is pretty much cured now, guess your god never hated gays, maybe he was testing them like he did the Jews and early Christians in the bible.

Wait, maybe..just maybe you have no idea what god thinks or is about and you talk out your ass like you could ever know gods agenda well enough to speak for him.

Isn't that a sin btw? Yes it is.

Sorry, HIV is STILL pretty much a gay disease

http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/

CDC estimates that MSM account for just 2% of the U.S. male population aged 13 and older, but accounted for more than 50% of all new HIV infections annually from 2006 to 2009. In 2010, MSM accounted for 61% of HIV diagnoses.

...

Individuals infected through heterosexual contact accounted for 27% of estimated new HIV infections in 2009 and 28% of people living with HIV in 2008.

So much for liberals believing in facts

 

[schneiderguy]

Thomas Jefferson? John Adams? liberals

Not really. Modern Librulism is very far away from Classical Liberalism.

Thomas Jefferson would be considered a Libertarian today. Dr. Ron Paul is basically the modern incarnation of Jefferson.

 

[Steeplerot]

Sorry, HIV is STILL pretty much a gay disease

So why can straight people get it vaginally, 2 married religious Christians can get HIV just like a gay couple.

People who are around other people have a better chance at getting the flu, is the flu a "outside person" disease or is "outside person" irrelevant to you because you have no axe to grind with this type?

If anything HIV is a intravenous drug user thing. If you want to go by more population affected.

But then looking at it like this you see WHY people get things, not because god hates one people.

God hates everyone I guess, because we all die sooner or later.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Sorry, HIV is STILL pretty much a gay disease

http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/


So much for liberals believing in facts

You honestly think that more gays being affected makes it a "gay disease?" Do you understand the difference between causation and correlation? Obviously, not. I bet they're all dirty filthy milk drinkers too.

OK, you've had your 15 minutes of attention, you can crawl back under your rock now.

 

[Steeplerot]

Not really. Modern Librulism is very far away from Classical Liberalism.

Spoken like someone misinformed and never actually read classical liberal works who once again uses a 1950s idea of john bircher "libertarianism" to mean classical liberals like Adam Smith and Jefferson.



By the way, Jefferson was not a klanner or apologized for them, nor could I see him speaking at their events like Ron Paul.

 

[Steeplerot]

They like giving illegals my hard earned money for free.

Because demonizing the poorest and least in power in a society works out so well to stop the inherent socioeconomic problem everyone knows exists perpetuated by those with the actual power and money.

Oh wait it doesn't! It assures that the working classes war with one another while those in power keep up their best interests in maintaining the status quo screwing us all.

Total weaksauce.

 

[schneiderguy]

Spoken like someone misinformed and never actually read classical liberal works who once again uses a 1950s idea of john bircher "libertarianism" to mean classical liberals like Adam Smith and Jefferson.



By the way, Jefferson was not a klanner or apologized for them, nor could I see him speaking at their events like Ron Paul.

Dr. Paul could be an Grand Wizard in the KKK and it wouldn't matter as long as his policies were not racist (which they aren't). On the other hand, libruls claim to not be racist but welfare and affirmative action are very racist.

 

[nehalem256]

Because demonizing the poorest and least in power in a society works out so well to stop the inherent socioeconomic problem everyone knows exists perpetuated by those with the actual power and money.

Oh wait it doesn't! It assures that the working classes war with one another while those in power keep up their best interests in maintaining the status quo screwing us all.

Total weaksauce.

Right clearly the solution to our economic problem is to invite in a near slave labor force

 

[lotus503]

They like giving illegals my hard earned money for free.

Please elaborate

 

[lotus503]

Right clearly the solution to our economic problem is to invite in a near slave labor force

When I see you picking lettuce in 115 degree heat I'll be outraged, until then your just another prick.

 

[Steeplerot]

On the other hand, libruls claim to not be racist but welfare and affirmative action are very racist.

Wow, racist people say everyone else is actually racist thanks to this grand conspiracy which permeates all of society to its core by average citizens with no power?

Can you righties EVER get a new lie/grand conspiracy? Didn't hitler kill that one off? Yet?

Oh, it's back again.


The klan has used this for ages. Same with the "if you are intolerant of our intolerance you are intolerant" it's really old now.

It's like a robber getting caught red handed and using the excuse that people in Washington DC steal too -so it's ok!

 

[nehalem256]

When I see you picking lettuce in 115 degree heat I'll be outraged, until then your just another prick.

So in other words you think Americans are too good to do the work and want Mexicans to do it.

Someone sounds racist.

 

[Steeplerot]

So in other words you think Americans are too good to do the work and want Mexicans to do it.

Someone sounds racist.

If workers were paid real wages with benefits that are realistic to the backbreaking work it is then yes, Americans would line up in droves.

It is not about working people either side of the border, it is about neo-liberal free trade policy and globalization.

Labor like any other commodity flows. Borders mean nothing, as they are a abstraction created by geopolitics, not the actual human condition on the ground.

You are looking for the easy political answers (by blaming one group with no actual power) to a economic problem that spans the whole globe.

 

[lotus503]

So in other words you think Americans are too good to do the work and want Mexicans to do it.

Someone sounds racist.

Your dog whistle post speaks for itself.
I am continually amazed at folks disdain for undocumented workers and so little for the employers who exploit them.

 

[nehalem256]

Your dog whistle post speaks for itself.
I am continually amazed at folks disdain for undocumented workers and so little for the employers who exploit them.

If they are being so "exploited" as you put it then why do they go to all the trouble to cross borders illegally?

Clearly they disagree about being "exploited".

But the real humor is that liberals oppose actual law enforcement verifying immigration status, but expect private businesses to do it