Say it loud and say it proud: YANKEES SUCK! :D Yankees off to worst 30-game start in 39 years

Storm

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<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Maybe its team George realized that he needs to go back to developing players within their farm system instead of throwing money at free agents. Ie Jeter, Posada, Williams, Pettite who is not an Astro, Rivera. Also there are players thate the Yankees traded away that turn out to be major leaguers Christian Guzman with the Nationals formerly of the twins, Eric Milton who kinda sucks (now on the Reds). Mike Lowell (Florida first baseman).

If George who only spend the time and money to develop a farm system that rivals the As or the Twins, then he could keep payroll down by having a steady stream prospects that can possibly contribute or be traded for mid-season solutions. Right now he's traded everything in the last 5 years...

Oh well :)

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I believe most of the people I've named originally came through the Yankees if not they were at one point in the Yankee farm system.
 

raystorm

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Would be kind of nice to see the A's sweep the Yanks and see George's horse finish dead last at the Kentucky Derby just to see Mt. Steinbrenner erupt. BOOOOOM!!!
 

Baked

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I turned it off last night when Zito gave up 2 runs in the 8th and tied the game. Good job on coming back and kicking Yanks' ass in their own stadium.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Storm
<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Errr I stopped reading your post after that. AFAIK the Yankees have not played small ball at all in the true sense of the term. Look at a national league team and you'll see true small ball being played. In fact this year I was watching an American League game (I think it was the A's) and was very shocked to see them have both a hit and run and a bunt in the same inning.

So you're somewhat wrong about the Yankees having played small ball before, but it could be a trend we start to see in the coming seasons with people afraid to even go to the gym for fear of being accused of juicing up.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Storm
<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Errr I stopped reading your post after that. AFAIK the Yankees have not played small ball at all in the true sense of the term. Look at a national league team and you'll see true small ball being played. In fact this year I was watching an American League game (I think it was the A's) and was very shocked to see them have both a hit and run and a bunt in the same inning.
Well they have to figure out a way to score runs. As for them (the A's) playing small ball., they only have 3 stolen bases so far this year so I wouldn't qualify them as playing small ball.

 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Storm
<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Errr I stopped reading your post after that. AFAIK the Yankees have not played small ball at all in the true sense of the term. Look at a national league team and you'll see true small ball being played. In fact this year I was watching an American League game (I think it was the A's) and was very shocked to see them have both a hit and run and a bunt in the same inning.
Well they have to figure out a way to score runs. As for them (the A's) playing small ball., they only have 3 stolen bases so far this year so I wouldn't qualify them as playing small ball.

That's because Billy Beane doesn't believe that stolen bases at a common success rate are worth it. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't really believe in 'small ball' at all either since it doesn't make sense in all situations.
 

Storm

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Storm
<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Errr I stopped reading your post after that. AFAIK the Yankees have not played small ball at all in the true sense of the term. Look at a national league team and you'll see true small ball being played. In fact this year I was watching an American League game (I think it was the A's) and was very shocked to see them have both a hit and run and a bunt in the same inning.

So you're somewhat wrong about the Yankees having played small ball before, but it could be a trend we start to see in the coming seasons with people afraid to even go to the gym for fear of being accused of juicing up.

Ok then let me ask you this... what is the "true definition" of small ball? Because obviously I do not know what it is :). Give me AL examples since I obviously don't watch NL ball games that much :).
 

raystorm

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Yanks are leading in today's game 4-0 against the A's...only the 3rd inning so there is still time for the Yanks to blow it.

 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Storm
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Storm
<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Errr I stopped reading your post after that. AFAIK the Yankees have not played small ball at all in the true sense of the term. Look at a national league team and you'll see true small ball being played. In fact this year I was watching an American League game (I think it was the A's) and was very shocked to see them have both a hit and run and a bunt in the same inning.

So you're somewhat wrong about the Yankees having played small ball before, but it could be a trend we start to see in the coming seasons with people afraid to even go to the gym for fear of being accused of juicing up.

Ok then let me ask you this... what is the "true definition" of small ball? Because obviously I do not know what it is :). Give me AL examples since I obviously don't watch NL ball games that much :).

Hit and runs, stolen bases, sac flies, getting to that next base any way you can. AL teams typically swing for the fences whereas NL teams use small ball because they've gotta allow for the pitcher's AB.
 

raystorm

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Originally posted by: aplefka

Hit and runs, stolen bases, sac flies, getting to that next base any way you can. AL teams typically swing for the fences whereas NL teams use small ball because they've gotta allow for the pitcher's AB.

Don't forget suicide squeezes, bunting for base hits..etc.. all those reasons why NL > AL.

 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: raystorm
Originally posted by: aplefka

Hit and runs, stolen bases, sac flies, getting to that next base any way you can. AL teams typically swing for the fences whereas NL teams use small ball because they've gotta allow for the pitcher's AB.

Don't forget suicide squeezes, bunting for base hits..etc.. all those reasons why NL > AL.

Suicide squeezes notsomuch in this day and age but defintely bunts for hits.
 

Storm

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Storm
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Storm
<--Yankees fan here...

Well it looks like the wheels may be coming off...

Its about time though because if you looked at the late 90s early 2k teams, they played "small" ball which the current team can't do with all the cleanup hitters in their line-up.

Errr I stopped reading your post after that. AFAIK the Yankees have not played small ball at all in the true sense of the term. Look at a national league team and you'll see true small ball being played. In fact this year I was watching an American League game (I think it was the A's) and was very shocked to see them have both a hit and run and a bunt in the same inning.

So you're somewhat wrong about the Yankees having played small ball before, but it could be a trend we start to see in the coming seasons with people afraid to even go to the gym for fear of being accused of juicing up.

Ok then let me ask you this... what is the "true definition" of small ball? Because obviously I do not know what it is :). Give me AL examples since I obviously don't watch NL ball games that much :).

Hit and runs, stolen bases, sac flies, getting to that next base any way you can. AL teams typically swing for the fences whereas NL teams use small ball because they've gotta allow for the pitcher's AB.

Right now my whole point is the championship Yankee's teams did that a lot more often than the teams of the last couple of years.
 

SludgeFactory

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The Yankees are doing fine offensively, among the league leaders in runs scored. It's the runs allowed that's killing them, if the pitching doesn't improve a lot, they're doomed.