is the ti4200 offically replaced by the 9600 pro as the best budget card seeing that the 9600 pro can be had for $110?
say it aint so! is it official????
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-$87 for the cheapest 4200 on pricewatch
-i'm referring to new cards cuz you can really count on finding it for $50 as you please, when you please
-i'm sure with the release of new cards there is room for the 9600 pro to go lower
Schadenfroh
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I completely agree that soon the Ti4200 will be phased out, they are getting harder and harder to find as is. I can see the FX5900 becoming the next Ti4200 if they keep producing them. I love to see 9800 Pros in the sub $150 range as well
You can still find pretty cheap 4200s on the For Sale forum, but I imagine they will be drying up pretty soon.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
I completely agree that soon the Ti4200 will be phased out, they are getting harder and harder to find as is. I can see the FX5900 becoming the next Ti4200 if they keep producing them. I love to see 9800 Pros in the sub $150 range as well
indeed, but you wont see 5900/9800 in the sub $100 for a long time
$150 is mid ranged IMHO
I couldnt find a 9600 Pro on PW for less than $150. In fact all I found were SEs leading up to $150 and then at 150 the 9600XT.
Currently on Newegg the only Pro is $128 (non-refurb). I dont consider refurbs to be legitimate for comparison but the refurbs have gone as low as $100 (I purchased one myself for a friend).
While on PW the 4200 128mb is $87. I've seen them refurbed for $40.
I wouldnt say the 9600 Pro will ever overtake the 4200 for price/performance. They are both probably being phased out finally, but it was wise of NV to keep production going so long as they've been able to hold this crown.
I'd say they both have their merits.. but overall I'd give the edge to the Geforce when speaking of price/performance.
Currently on Newegg the only Pro is $128 (non-refurb). I dont consider refurbs to be legitimate for comparison but the refurbs have gone as low as $100 (I purchased one myself for a friend).
While on PW the 4200 128mb is $87. I've seen them refurbed for $40.
I wouldnt say the 9600 Pro will ever overtake the 4200 for price/performance. They are both probably being phased out finally, but it was wise of NV to keep production going so long as they've been able to hold this crown.
I'd say they both have their merits.. but overall I'd give the edge to the Geforce when speaking of price/performance.
The 9600 is a fluff card. Take away AA/AF, and it's no better than the GF4. Until the 9600 is within a few bucks of the GF4, GF4 is still king.
people with something lesser than a 4200...
a 9600 pro is easily superior to a 4200; BECAUSE it can do everything the 4200 can do and then some.
what a silly thing to say
We're talking bang for your hard earned dollar here people, let's not forget that. The 9600 is more expensive than the GF4, and the only thing it brings to the table is AA/AF. Last I knew, AA/AF weren't required to enjoy a PC game. If those features are that important to you, don't buy a 9600, get at least a 9800 and be done with it.
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i was stuck with a gf2 ultra, so i got a 4200 a few months back to hold me over till new cards come out. the most demanding game i've played on it would have to be far cry, and i play that at 12x10 with 2x QAA. it runs fine for me (read >35 fps), probably due to the 1.1/1.4 shaders it uses. but hey, the game still looks hot to me. mine was a refurb, got it for $70 at newegg. its a gainward golden sample and OCs very well.
i'd say 4200 is still king
9600pro is a prince.
voodoo 5 6000 is the oracle.
k thats enough,
-Vivan
i'd say 4200 is still king
9600pro is a prince.
voodoo 5 6000 is the oracle.
k thats enough,
-Vivan
i never said it was required, i asked how many people DONT use it? most everyone uses it
and a 9600 pro can certainly use AA/AF. its easy to say get a 9800, but again, this thread is about budget cards.
as for the price difference, its pretty minimal @ ~$20. when the new cards come out, i wouldnt be surprised if the price difference is ~$10 or less
budget card usually means $100 range. you are not gonna find either of those cards in the $100 for a VERY long time
I dont use AA/AF, but i game at very high resolutions, although i readily admit that if i had the option (which i will when i get my 6800U), ill run 2xAA 16xAF for the best IQ.
Of course the 9600 pro is better but I think you can get the 4200 for less. I had a 4200. Great open gl quaking card was super in its day.
But what would I use for Far Cry? or any dx9 game? 9600Pro hands down no argument.
But what would I use for Far Cry? or any dx9 game? 9600Pro hands down no argument.
The guy that said the 9600 pro is fluff? LOL. Take away this take away that and you have a VooDoo 5. I have one of those also.
There was a time when I wanted just speed and the hell with graphics. 32 bit color was a joke and anyone who ran in 32 bit color was off my quake ctf team
All it did was slowwwwww things way down and the graphics were hardly any better.
Today I must say that the eyecandy is more than just a subtle improvement over old. My VooDoo 5 looks like absolute crap in TIger woods 2004. My 9600pro looks exactly
like my 9700pro and plays about as well to.
UT2004 looks so good and plays so fast that I would not want to turn off all the goodies like I use to (5 years ago)
FSAA is ansio is why I have a radeon. I can't go back to the old ways of jaggies, etc. Enjoy your retro 4200.
There was a time when I wanted just speed and the hell with graphics. 32 bit color was a joke and anyone who ran in 32 bit color was off my quake ctf team
All it did was slowwwwww things way down and the graphics were hardly any better.
Today I must say that the eyecandy is more than just a subtle improvement over old. My VooDoo 5 looks like absolute crap in TIger woods 2004. My 9600pro looks exactly
like my 9700pro and plays about as well to.
UT2004 looks so good and plays so fast that I would not want to turn off all the goodies like I use to (5 years ago)
FSAA is ansio is why I have a radeon. I can't go back to the old ways of jaggies, etc. Enjoy your retro 4200.
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