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Lifer
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Originally posted by: xxcutetaraxx
why would they switch over? the same guy designed the damn thing. did they just want an upgrade? which is stupid. havent been in an HHR, but they are cool looking

Reliability, specifically transmission problems and over all dis-satisfaction with Chrysler Engineering. HHR, better built, and more reliable.
 

Turin39789

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Good riddance.

We had rental cars for 3 weeks straight after totalling a car. Had an HHR for a week and it was tolearable. Then we got the the PT, which made the HHR feel like a competant sedan and the PT feel like a customed 80's full sized van with busted springs.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
I like the looks of the PT Cruiser - it's retro and distinctively American without overdoing it. Obviously Chevy agreed, since they cribbed the design for the HHR (in fact I believe they are designed by the same man). Unfortunately, it's very cramped inside and, well, it's a Chrysler product.

The HHR is actually fairly well designed. It's base 4 banger gets 30+ MPG, it has twice the room as a PT, it handles well, and it's pretty peppy. The interior is awful though (1980 plastic crap). My wife has owned one for a year now and she likes it.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: jtvang125
I got one as a rental awhile back. I didn't want it but it was the last car left on their lot in that price class unless I upgrade. I thought it couldn't be that bad so I went with it. Three blocks down and I already knew I made a mistake of taking it but the rental agency wouldn't let me return it unless there was a mechnical problem. The exterior isn't really anything to look at but the interior was even worst with more plastic than a playskool toy.

What problems did you have in those 3 blocks?
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: iFX
I like the PT Cruiser. Some friends have one and it's a nice car. Needs a V6 though.

Someone said to can the Caliber? That's a nice little family/commuter car. Optional AWD is nice too. It's surprisingly roomy inside as well.

Didn't they put a turbo in some edition of it?

There are turbo versions of both cars. The PT has a 2.4 HO Turbo that would kick most cars butt and not expect it and of course the SRT-4 Caliber.
 

xxcutetaraxx

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yea they discontinued the dodge magnum and the chysler pacifica. and ummm the PT Cruiser is the best car i have ever driven. i have a 2007 so i have no idea what you are talking about with tractor turning? the wheel turns beautifully...i get about 21 mpg in the city 26 on the highway..better than my dads denali and his camaro that hes getting in march. its a nice little v4 and perfect for me. so what if its a weak engine? yea i race people at lights...but guess what im always the one winning (well against other v4's) i love this car. mini cooper? too tiny..id be afraid to get into an accident with that thing. i wouldnt want to drive anything other than my beautiful PT. i have driven a monte carlo...didnt like it..seats were too low to the floor...driven a yukon denali..didnt like it because it feels like im driving a big ass boat...drove a ford focus...didnt like it because it was a ford...drove a ford taurus..again it was a ford...drove a suburban...way too big...drove a 5 speed jetta...loved that car and ended up getting a passat glx vr6...and had an electrical problem and a tranny problem..so i stayed away from VW's. so my PT has not given me any problems and i have no evidence that this car is a POS. its not.
 

xxcutetaraxx

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and as for the interior...look at a 2006-2009 Cruiser. interior is perfect. no plastic...very stylish inside. i do have to admit that the PT's before this were quite gross with the interior and the plastic bumpers. now they dont have plastic bumpers and everything has pretty much upgraded from when it first came out
 

RaistlinZ

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Originally posted by: xxcutetaraxx
yea they discontinued the dodge magnum and the chysler pacifica. and ummm the PT Cruiser is the best car i have ever driven. i have a 2007 so i have no idea what you are talking about with tractor turning? the wheel turns beautifully...i get about 21 mpg in the city 26 on the highway..better than my dads denali and his camaro that hes getting in march. its a nice little v4 and perfect for me. so what if its a weak engine? yea i race people at lights...but guess what im always the one winning (well against other v4's) i love this car. mini cooper? too tiny..id be afraid to get into an accident with that thing. i wouldnt want to drive anything other than my beautiful PT. i have driven a monte carlo...didnt like it..seats were too low to the floor...driven a yukon denali..didnt like it because it feels like im driving a big ass boat...drove a ford focus...didnt like it because it was a ford...drove a ford taurus..again it was a ford...drove a suburban...way too big...drove a 5 speed jetta...loved that car and ended up getting a passat glx vr6...and had an electrical problem and a tranny problem..so i stayed away from VW's. so my PT has not given me any problems and i have no evidence that this car is a POS. its not.

90% of the free world will disagree with you.
 

bobdole369

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Like I said, I owned a touring edition for 3 years. The car was a POS. It would go from zero to sixty. No time on that, it would just eventually get there. Heavy car + weak engine = stressed parts = early failures. Not to mention terrible mpgs. My Envoy was getting better fuel economy.

The turning radius was like turning a tractor trailer...wtf were they thinking?

It was unstable- the car body is so heavy it would sway during turns.

Have you actually driven a fun car? Go hop in a Mini Cooper and let me know what you think of the PT Cruiser after that.

You bought the wrong model man. Should've gone one step further and got the Limited - or whole hog with the GT. Also should have bought the manual. Not the autostick the GT has, but the real manual. TERRIBLY rare, but wow a GT manual is fun!

I agree with you on the turning radius - it's a bit poor. What do you want though the car had the wheelbase of a truck.

The weird swaying isn't because its unstable or top-heavy. Thats a very common misconception. 03+ PT's had a weird rear suspension. They deleted the rear sway bar and replaced it with a larger stabilizer bar in the rear axle (integrated) - and a supplemental connecting beam. The effect is a more pronounced body roll when changing lanes. It doesn't happen when turning. You get used to it and once you realize how much more stable the car is because of it (you can really go wild on the lane changes, and cornering is incredibly tight) Try taking a hard turn at 40mph in a minivan and watch as you almost roll the thing and the tires give way.
Having driven it three years I would have figured you would have noticed that.

Oh and xxcutetaraxx - its not a v4. PT cruiser has a "4-cylinder". Its an in-line 4, NOT in a v formation.

Hey tara do you have the base model or one of the upgraded ones (limited, touring, GT, vert?)

Oh one thing is for sure about the PT Cruiser. At about 30,000 - 50,000 miles you WILL need to replace your front lower control arm bushings. They wear out very quick. Replace with poly ones to fix the issue. It handles even better that way.
 

bobdole369

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and as for the interior...look at a 2006-2009 Cruiser. interior is perfect. no plastic...very stylish inside.

Here is where I disagree completely. I HATE the new interior. A friggin ugly clock up top? WTF were they doing with the console? Whats the deal with the bar in the passenger seat? I love my 2004 limited - its curvy in all the right spots.

The whole thing is plastic. Its chrome looking plastic. All of it. The whole thing. There is nothing on the PT Cruiser thats not plastic besides the rims and the body panels. And snap-tite. I really like that aspect. Makes it simple to get behind the console and run wires.

Compare interiors
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Aflac
:( I've never understood the Aztek hate - I actually like the design. Oh well.

What do you call an Aztec sitting on a pontiac dealers lot?

The bastard love child of a Chevy Blazer and a pop up camper?
 

xxcutetaraxx

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Aug 13, 2008
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that rack is called a towel bar...it is pointless..but i adds to the front. and id much rather have the new interior than the old interior. way more comfortable..they got rid of those stupid armrests..and the analog clock i love. every car has a digital..every car has a digital!! well the PT people decided that it would be more different to put in the analog. great idea...cuz then you never have to put the key in the ignition to check the time..which i always hated. GT's are nice and faster..but i love my touring. its big..roomy...seats are comfortable...my stereo is amazing (boston acoustics...yea yea its not bose, but i cant tell the difference) when summer comes..im putting so much chrome on my baby. its gonna be sharp looking.
 

bobdole369

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I never looked at that angle on the clock, just dismissed it as fluff (as a grubby dude would tend to do yes?). I'm glad you enjoy yours. It's refreshing to see someone actually singing the praises of this wonderful automobile!

Bose sucks. and I mean really bad sucks. Like Monster Cable suckage. I upgraded the BA to aftermarket BA stuff. You should test-drive a Limited one day. You'll never look at your non-turbo the same way. The base model (or touring) engine is really underpowered. You think its fast because the final gear is like 4.1 so it gets up to speed better than most cars. There isn't any real acceleration there. My wife has one - its slow.

If you take the time to actually look at the "speakers" in the dash - you'll flip. They are the size of a nickel. Replace them with sx35's (Boston acoustics) - or really anything at all and you'll experience a decent stereo. The stocker radio (yes, even the "premium sound" and the RBQ Sirius) is TERRIBLE - compared to anything else you can put in there. Shoot - put something Sony makes in the dash and it sounds better. Of course I'm jaded - if you like it - more power to ya, I couldn't stand it - my ears are more used to audiophile setups (I work on megayachts - sometimes we do the audio/video systems)

I replaced it with middle of the road ancient Pioneer CD deck, put in a JL Audio 10" in a box in the hatch (sealed) - have sx65's, and sx35's, Nakamichi amps, and an audiocontrol EQ/cross. WAY better sound than anything stock, and most of the aftermarket stuff folks put in around here.

I'm always fighting with the armrests, thats true but I can't imagine life without one.

 

xxcutetaraxx

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Aug 13, 2008
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thank you. heh. i really love this car..and i know people (well most) don't feel the same way i do about this car being axed. but the PT Cruiser is what made Chrysler. it was just different looking and your never really saw anything like it when it came out. as for my speakers...i do plan to upgrade when i get money...right now with this economy...i cant really afford specialties on my car. i only have a few that was considered my "christmas present" to myself. its just sad knowing that these cars are stopped all together...and there is talk about a 2010 upgrade..it would be called the "PV Cruiser", but if you look at the sketch..its nothing like a PT...you won't see me in one of those.. PT cruisers will be missed by some...but me and all the PT car clubs, and fans will definetly be missing them more
 

xxcutetaraxx

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Aug 13, 2008
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lol whoever did that....the monster truck...lol. it makes me laugh. it doesnt fit...yea cool idea...but it just doesnt look right. hehe
 

bobdole369

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but it just doesnt look right.

Out in the Everglades (about 50 miles from my house) - on Indian (err native american) land - at a place that does airboat rides - exists a thirdgen camaro in the parking lot - Thats right - a CAMARO - with an upgraded suspension and 42" monster truck tires. They use it to go mudbogging in the summer when it rains. It's wild.