SAVE THE INTERNET!

Drunkentig3r

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Here's a "summary" of what Network Neutrality, COPE Act, and all that jargon is, provided by the very talented Mr. Scott Kurtz over at PvP-Online.

Just scroll down a bit and you'll see his big post on the issue. Interesting read.

http://www.pvponline.com/
 

FelixDeCat

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But I want big telecom companies to tell me & you what we can and cant do with our internet connection and *not* have the ability to access competing services such as VOIP from any provider I/we choose.

I dont like the relative unbridled freedom to do as I wish on the internet. Everything must be like AOL, where if they arent partnered with your provider, I cant use it!

Aint big government and the big telecoms grand? They are making the internet safe for you and me!
 

Drunkentig3r

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Who knows? You might not able to access Anandtech.com or if you are able to access it, the site will be very very slow. I mean, it is one of the most visited websites ever created.
 

Jeff7

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It just amuses me - people criticize Google for censoring their results for the Chinese government, but then we get crap like this. Little more than corporate censorship, rather than government censorship.
 

Drunkentig3r

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Thank you very much for your support!

Lets continue to beat the war-drum. By far out of all the different forums and websites that I frequently access, all of which where I have posted this message, this thread by far has the most intelligent group of people and the most supportive. Once again, thanks.
 

Drunkentig3r

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Thanks for all your help guys. Signatures count towards something-I mean, if half a million people rose up and spoke up about the same concern, wouldn't that alert at least some attention?
 

I Saw OJ

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I emailed both my Senators and got these replies back from them

Barbara Boxer
Dear Mr. Snyder:

Thank you for contacting me regarding network neutrality, which is the principle that consumers should have access to the Internet content and applications of their choice without interference by network operators. I appreciate the opportunity to hear your views on this issue.

As a longtime advocate for network neutrality, I believe that network operators should facilitate, not stifle, Americans' access to the Internet. Consumers will suffer if network operators are allowed to discriminate against their competitors' use of the network by giving certain content preferential treatment.

I believe that individuals' ability to define and shape their experiences on the Internet has led to an explosion of creativity that has greatly benefited our economy and our lives. I fear that if network operators abandon the principle of network neutrality, the next generation of Internet innovators will be harmed.

Congress is currently considering a number of bills on this issue. As a member of the Senate Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction over broadband and telecommunications issues, please be assured that I will continue working to ensure that the Internet remains an engine of growth for commerce and ideas.

Again, thank you for writing to me. Please do not hesitate to contact me again about this or any other issue of concern to you.

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator

Dianne Feinstein
Dear Mr. Snyder:

Thank you for writing to me about open access to the
Internet and the policy of network neutrality. I appreciate hearing
from you.

It is vital to Americans and to our economy that we provide
access to an open Internet with a balanced playing field for
network, service and information providers. Giving consumers
more access to and choices over information and services available
over the Internet should not compromise other providers. Should
legislation regarding network neutrality come before the Senate I
will be sure to keep your views in mind.

Again, thank you for writing. If you should have any
comments or questions, I hope you will feel free to contact my
Washington, DC staff at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

Senator Boxer seems like she does support network neutrality, however Senator Feinstein didnt really say anything...typical politician I suppose.
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
I emailed both my Senators and got these replies back from them

Barbara Boxer
Dear Mr. Snyder:

Thank you for contacting me regarding network neutrality, which is the principle that consumers should have access to the Internet content and applications of their choice without interference by network operators. I appreciate the opportunity to hear your views on this issue.

As a longtime advocate for network neutrality, I believe that network operators should facilitate, not stifle, Americans' access to the Internet. Consumers will suffer if network operators are allowed to discriminate against their competitors' use of the network by giving certain content preferential treatment.

I believe that individuals' ability to define and shape their experiences on the Internet has led to an explosion of creativity that has greatly benefited our economy and our lives. I fear that if network operators abandon the principle of network neutrality, the next generation of Internet innovators will be harmed.

Congress is currently considering a number of bills on this issue. As a member of the Senate Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction over broadband and telecommunications issues, please be assured that I will continue working to ensure that the Internet remains an engine of growth for commerce and ideas.

Again, thank you for writing to me. Please do not hesitate to contact me again about this or any other issue of concern to you.

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator

Dianne Feinstein
Dear Mr. Snyder:

Thank you for writing to me about open access to the
Internet and the policy of network neutrality. I appreciate hearing
from you.

It is vital to Americans and to our economy that we provide
access to an open Internet with a balanced playing field for
network, service and information providers. Giving consumers
more access to and choices over information and services available
over the Internet should not compromise other providers. Should
legislation regarding network neutrality come before the Senate I
will be sure to keep your views in mind.

Again, thank you for writing. If you should have any
comments or questions, I hope you will feel free to contact my
Washington, DC staff at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

Senator Boxer seems like she does support network neutrality, however Senator Feinstein didnt really say anything...typical politician I suppose.

Mind posting the email you sent? I'd like to send the same email to my reps/senators.
 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Drunkentig3r
Please join the fight for Network Neutrality


Sign the Petition; More then half a million of your fellow internet users have done so.

Sorry, it is a done deal, cannot be stopped Democratically.

And you say this why? If it cant be stopped "Democratically" how about Republicanny? ;)

He says that because he's a troll.

Also, Interweb Petitions never amount to anything anyway.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Drunkentig3r
Please join the fight for Network Neutrality


Sign the Petition; More then half a million of your fellow internet users have done so.

Sorry, it is a done deal, cannot be stopped Democratically.

And you say this why? If it cant be stopped "Democratically" how about Republicanny? ;)

He says that because he's a troll.

Also, Interweb Petitions never amount to anything anyway.

Dave a troll? nah, can't be. :p
 

Fritzo

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Great! Now all that crappy content will be out of the way and I won't be hindered in my search for porn.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Dianne Feinstein
Dear Mr. Snyder:

Thank you for writing to me about open access to the
Internet and the policy of network neutrality. I appreciate hearing
from you.

It is vital to Americans and to our economy that we provide
access to an open Internet with a balanced playing field for
network, service and information providers. Giving consumers
more access to and choices over information and services available
over the Internet should not compromise other providers.
Should
legislation regarding network neutrality come before the Senate I
will be sure to keep your views in mind.

Again, thank you for writing. If you should have any
comments or questions, I hope you will feel free to contact my
Washington, DC staff at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

Senator Boxer seems like she does support network neutrality, however Senator Feinstein didnt really say anything...typical politician I suppose.

I read the bolded part as, "I want to protect the big telecom companies". These are politicians we're talking about, they won't come out and tell you something you don't want to hear. They'll try to baffle you with some of their mush mouthed antics instead.

I'd write a letter asking her to clarify/rip her a new one.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: KK
While y'all are at it, futureofthenet.org. :)

They've put out a great bullsh|t machine to try and take a dump on network neutrality legislation.

I'll ask you a simple question, who do you think really is really giving you the bullsh|t here. The telecom companies who can leverage their market position to destroy competitors without this bill, or companies like google, microsoft or ebay? Lets not even get into the fact that we've got conservative and liberal groups working together to support network neutrality...such a rare occurance these days that its worth taking a closer look at why.

Imagine you create a small news website and it becomes popular. Now imagine it going 1/4 the speed of your already larger more established competitor. Imagine you're trying to sell a VoIP service, but half your customers have a link to you thats truncated to be to slow to use it. Or they ban it altogether. The last one is already happening.

Old companies hate being forced to adapt, and they'll leverage their incumbant status to try and sway the market back to their whims instead of giving the market what it wants. Companies that can't adapt deserve to die, at least in an actual free market they do.

This is about freedom of speed and freedom of markets. And its about keeping the US from further losing any edge it has left as a technological leader.