Saudis: If world cuts oil consumption, We will need foreign aid

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: dawp

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
I really don't think they are in any sort of trouble. Fossil fuels will continue to dominate the energy landscape for the next 50 years. No other technology, save for nuclear, is ready to take charge.

But since we can't have nuclear (thanks liberals) we are suck with fossil fuels.

Funny how that works. We could get ride of fossil fuels but then how would the liberals justify their existence?

when was the the last time you saw a nuclear power car, plane, or truck? Battery technology just isn't where electric cars are really practical yet. Oil powers very few power stations and will be that way for the forseeable future. and do you want the spent fuel rods stored in your back yard? That the problem, no one want the waste anywhere near them.

Let's store the rods in Iran with a heavy guard and shoot anyone that comes near them because we know they are the "ter-rur-ists".

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Why is Saudi Arabia so disliked?

This thread has a lot of people who want some sort of pay back. Pay back for what?

Because SA is just as oppressive as any of the "Sharia lovin'" countries wingnuts are screaming about as justification for us to go "whup some ass, Bubba!"

 

[Praxis1452]

I've never understood all the panic about nuclear power. If they were serious about reducing the usage of fossil fuels, Nuclear is THE BEST option available. We don't need huge amount of research because we know how to build them, there is an investment but it's got to be cheaper than R&D + Production of solar cells, and wind farms.

 

[Bitek]

Fleets of diamond encrusted Mercedes owned by the princes don't count as a national resource? Maybe they should have been more wise and developed their country instead of letting it rot as a corrupt and oppressive oligarchy only interested in preserving the royals.

Good luck on Al-Bastille Day king.

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: Bitek
Fleets of diamond encrusted Mercedes owned by the princes don't count as a national resource? Maybe they should have been more wise and developed their country instead of letting it rot as a corrupt and oppressive oligarchy only interested in preserving the royals.

Good luck on Al-Bastille Day king.

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I imagine it like a scene from a movie: a wide shot, with the King running towards the camera in slow motion, his checkerboard table cloth head rag fluttering in the wind, the sheer look of terror on his face, then thousands of his "subjects" top the dune behind him, masks of rage of their faces.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Topic Title: Saudis: If world cuts oil consumption, We will need foreign aid

Good. But first they have to tear down (or convert) the Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan (and throughout the ME) that teach Wahhabism. Then, we'll talk.

By the way, natural gas produces less carbon dioxide when it is burned than does either coal or petroleum (at a much lower capital cost than Nuke-u-lar).

I wouldn't mind a serious expansion of off-shore LNG terminals built in conjunction with major wind farms. Might not get environmental support but would be an excellent bridge to new alternative tech, and battery capacity and life-cycle improvements.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
I've never understood all the panic about nuclear power. If they were serious about reducing the usage of fossil fuels, Nuclear is THE BEST option available. We don't need huge amount of research because we know how to build them, there is an investment but it's got to be cheaper than R&D + Production of solar cells, and wind farms.

I agree that nuclear is the best option now. But, plenty of R&D dollars go towards nuclear power. Each generation is safer and more efficient than the last. Demand outside the US has allowed nuclear R&D to continue and modern nuclear reactor designs are hardly a public concern as their benefits far outweigh their risks.

Gen IV is going to be great, but they are not scheduled to go commercial until 2030.

i) Nuclear waste that lasts decades instead of millennia.
ii) 100-300 times more energy yield from the same amount of nuclear fuel.
iii) The ability to consume existing nuclear waste in the production of electricity.

 

[Siddhartha]

All the Saudis have to do to increase oil consumption is lower its price.

 

[Ausm]

Considering they make billions now maybe they should start saving like everyone else has to

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: rudder
I say we sell them flour for $100/lb.

:thumbsup:

The only problem with this idea is that if the OPEC nations shut the taps, we don't have enough horses and plows to farm the fields. American agriculture depends on petroleum products as much (or more) than any other industry.

Americans aren't likely to tolerate agribusinesses getting the majority of the oil produced in the USA at the expense of all other businesses/private vehicles.

Personally, I also have the attitude of "Fuck the Saudi's." MOST of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudi's, Saudi Arabia is supposed to be one of the largest financers of terrorism in the world, Osama Bin Forgotten is Saudi, They've bent the entire world over an oil barrel and shoved it up our asses for too long.

 

[JKing106]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: rudder
I say we sell them flour for $100/lb.

:thumbsup:

The only problem with this idea is that if the OPEC nations shut the taps, we don't have enough horses and plows to farm the fields. American agriculture depends on petroleum products as much (or more) than any other industry.

Americans aren't likely to tolerate agribusinesses getting the majority of the oil produced in the USA at the expense of all other businesses/private vehicles.

Personally, I also have the attitude of "Fuck the Saudi's." MOST of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudi's, Saudi Arabia is supposed to be one of the largest financers of terrorism in the world, Osama Bin Forgotten is Saudi, They've bent the entire world over an oil barrel and shoved it up our asses for too long.

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[sandorski]

Instead of Gold Plated toilet bowls and diamond studded Bentleys, perhaps they should consider some Investments into diversifying their Economies?

The Oil won't last forever, with or without CC Action.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: rudder
I say we sell them flour for $100/lb.

:thumbsup:

The only problem with this idea is that if the OPEC nations shut the taps, we don't have enough horses and plows to farm the fields. American agriculture depends on petroleum products as much (or more) than any other industry.

Americans aren't likely to tolerate agribusinesses getting the majority of the oil produced in the USA at the expense of all other businesses/private vehicles.

Personally, I also have the attitude of "Fuck the Saudi's." MOST of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudi's, Saudi Arabia is supposed to be one of the largest financers of terrorism in the world, Osama Bin Forgotten is Saudi, They've bent the entire world over an oil barrel and shoved it up our asses for too long.

Many of them were radicalized in Germany... but Germany is a European nation so you'll give them a free pass.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Many of them were radicalized in Germany... but Germany is a European nation so you'll give them a free pass.

It's a free pass or having to tell them to get rid of their Muslim immigrants. Which is most likely to happen?

Hell, do a poll right here, right now, in P&N. It?s not a matter of Germany being European, it?s a matter of the majority of us being ideologically opposed to doing anything about the source of the Islamic extremism.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: rudder
I say we sell them flour for $100/lb.

:thumbsup:

The only problem with this idea is that if the OPEC nations shut the taps, we don't have enough horses and plows to farm the fields. American agriculture depends on petroleum products as much (or more) than any other industry.

Americans aren't likely to tolerate agribusinesses getting the majority of the oil produced in the USA at the expense of all other businesses/private vehicles.

Personally, I also have the attitude of "Fuck the Saudi's." MOST of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudi's, Saudi Arabia is supposed to be one of the largest financers of terrorism in the world, Osama Bin Forgotten is Saudi, They've bent the entire world over an oil barrel and shoved it up our asses for too long.

We never said we were stopping oil consumption completely. We'll still buy from them, they'll just take a hit. We're still one of their largest customers. We can do whatever the hell we want for the foreseeable future and they'll still sell to us.

Besides, doesn't Canukistan have some oil sands we could buy a slice of?

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Many of them were radicalized in Germany... but Germany is a European nation so you'll give them a free pass.

There are radical Islamic pockets who are getting brainwashed by wahabi clerics everywhere, not just Germany. And yes, that includes the U.S., Canada, England, Australia, and just about every other "civilized" nation on earth.

So what's your point again?