Saudi telecom wants access to encrypted Twitter data so they can behead more poets

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lagokc

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http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/dear-hacker-please-help-us-eavesdrop-on-our-customers/

So the Saudis want help monitoring encrypted internet communication within the country. They claim it's to stop terrorism. Spoiler, these are the kinds of terrorists they're going to be going after (and beheading):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza_Kashgari

On the occasion of Mawlid on February 4, 2012,[17] Kashgari published three tweets about an imagined meeting with Muhammad:[8][9]
On your birthday, I shall not bow to you. I shall not kiss your hand. Rather, I shall shake it as equals do, and smile at you as you smile at me. I shall speak to you as a friend, no more.
On your birthday, I find you wherever I turn. I will say that I have loved aspects of you, hated others, and could not understand many more.
On your birthday, I will say that I have loved the rebel in you, that you've always been a source of inspiration to me, and that I do not like the halos of divinity around you. I shall not pray for you.

According to Arab News, Kashgari will be charged by Saudi Arabian judicial authorities with blasphemy.[52] Human Rights Watch believes that he is to be charged with apostasy and that he has already been declared by Saudi religious authorities to be guilty of apostasy prior to trial.[53] In August 2012, Kashgari's family published a poem by him in which he apologized for the offense he had caused, and they asked publicly for his release, a common practice during Eid Al-Fitr, the holiday marking the end of Ramadan. He was not released.[54]
 
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http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/dear-hacker-please-help-us-eavesdrop-on-our-customers/

So the Saudis want help monitoring encrypted internet communication within the country. They claim it's to stop terrorism. Spoiler, these are the kinds of terrorists they're going to be going after (and beheading):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza_Kashgari

On the occasion of Mawlid on February 4, 2012,[17] Kashgari published three tweets about an imagined meeting with Muhammad:[8][9]
On your birthday, I shall not bow to you. I shall not kiss your hand. Rather, I shall shake it as equals do, and smile at you as you smile at me. I shall speak to you as a friend, no more.
On your birthday, I find you wherever I turn. I will say that I have loved aspects of you, hated others, and could not understand many more.
On your birthday, I will say that I have loved the rebel in you, that you've always been a source of inspiration to me, and that I do not like the halos of divinity around you. I shall not pray for you.

According to Arab News, Kashgari will be charged by Saudi Arabian judicial authorities with blasphemy.[52] Human Rights Watch believes that he is to be charged with apostasy and that he has already been declared by Saudi religious authorities to be guilty of apostasy prior to trial.[53] In August 2012, Kashgari's family published a poem by him in which he apologized for the offense he had caused, and they asked publicly for his release, a common practice during Eid Al-Fitr, the holiday marking the end of Ramadan. He was not released.[54]
/Muslim run countries. Their sense of civil rights, justice system, etc. literally are hundreds of years behind the West.
 

PokerGuy

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They're all a bunch of crazies over there, but I don't see how it's any of anyone else's business how they choose to run their society. At some point they might emerge from the dark ages.
 

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They're all a bunch of crazies over there, but I don't see how it's any of anyone else's business how they choose to run their society. At some point they might emerge from the dark ages.

Saudi is so holy that the current Prime Minister of Malaysia doesn't even bother to make the pilgrimage to Mecca in his entire life. Either Saudi is too wonderful of a place or he is just too devout to perform such a task.
 

1prophet

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They're all a bunch of crazies over there, but I don't see how it's any of anyone else's business how they choose to run their society. At some point they might emerge from the dark ages.

The moment Americans compromised their values and looked the other way for cheap oil which in turn funds this backward behavior and prevents it from dying out,

it becomes our business and we suffer the repercussions if we ignore it.

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Nintendesert

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Why are you all acting as though America is any better?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/the-irs-wants-you-to-share-everything-91378.html


So what the fuck is the difference? Someone has different beliefs and the government of the United States is going after their social networking posts to exact punishment against them. It wasn't so long ago that America put people in concentration camps and eradicated people within its own borders or had systemic racism and public lynchings without due process.

Hell we're arguing on this forum whether or not it's ok for Police to beat someone to death with batons and using Hellfire missiles on citizens without trial.

I think all this outcry against Saudi Arabia is simply because we see them and see way too much of ourselves.
 

peonyu

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it is not the religion. it's the morons who take it to the next level.

Where are all the Jihadist Amish people at ? They are as fundamentalist as Muslims are.

The religion is to blame here.
 
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