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Anyone with half a brain could have seen this coming when the US awarded special weapons deals to the SA for the exchange of ousting Quatar from their midst because of their support for Iran.

Iran has been isolated... Gee I wonder what is next...
 
So a Qatar invasion is imminent? I’m not discounting, it seems plausible I just don’t know enough on it to have an opinion either way.

Saudis carry it out with US (and Israeli?) blessing maybe?
 
UglyCasanova said:
Possibly. It seems like a whole lotta big happenings all at the same time just for power though.
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Salman wants to make changes in the kingdom, some of which will be less than popular at the outset. The king is also old so ascension to the throne is probably near in the next few years. This looks like royal power consolidation 101. Remove people who could challenge your rule, tighten ties with allies who want to see a continuation of the status quo, and amp up other issues to distract from tossing said possible challengers in the clink.
 
UglyCasanova said:
So a Qatar invasion is imminent? I’m not discounting, it seems plausible I just don’t know enough on it to have an opinion either way.

Saudis carry it out with US (and Israeli?) blessing maybe?
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No, Qautar has had to end their business with Iran which was the point of all of this, to ensure that Iran is isolated.

It's kinda like how Iraq was starved to the point where an invasion wasn't even a risky operation. That is the end goal.
 
K1052 said:
Salman wants to make changes in the kingdom, some of which will be less than popular at the outset
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That goes against everything I know about the peoples wishes. Do you have any evidence what so ever to back that statement up?
 
UglyCasanova said:
Big shit going down that will surely have worldwide effects (oil markets tomorrow?) and this forum is incapable of regurgitating anything other than "I hate Trump". There’s been essentially nothing said about SA said in this thread, sad.
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Kee-rist. I made a quip about Trump & the usual suspects came out mewling at the top of their lungs.

Musta hit a nerve. I figure they'd go for it if the Donald pulled the same kind of power play in this country. The very structure of a Medieval Monarchy allows Salman nearly unlimited freedom to do so. He's the envy of every right wing authoritarian leader from Russia to Hungary to Poland to Turkey to the Philippines & beyond. Anybody who can't see more than a little bit of that in Trump is willfully blind.

Corrupt? The whole notion that anybody rules by Divine Right is utterly corrupt whether that right is claimed by bloodline or by wealth.
 
J.Wilkins said:
That goes against everything I know about the peoples wishes. Do you have any evidence what so ever to back that statement up?
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If you take the prince at his word he wants to move SA to a more moderate interpretation of Islam, reduce economic dependence on oil/gas, and enact social reforms. Were I him doing so without disposing of my rivals would probably be a poor idea since there's going to be some social upheaval.

This has been talked about in various articles over the past year or so.
 
K1052 said:
If you take the prince at his word he wants to move SA to a more moderate interpretation of Islam, reduce economic dependence on oil/gas, and enact social reforms. Were I him doing so without disposing of my rivals would probably be a poor idea since there's going to be some social upheaval.

This has been talked about in various articles over the past year or so.
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Yeah, none of that in any shape or form relates to your previous statement.
 
Damn

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41881058

A Saudi prince has been killed when the helicopter he was travelling in crashed near the border with Yemen, state television reported.

Prince Mansour bin Muqrin, the deputy governor of Asir province, was travelling with several officials when the helicopter crashed, Al-Ikhbariya news channel said.

The cause of the crash is unknown.
 
bbhaag said:
I have noticed that in this forum as well. It seems to have an unnatural obsession with President Trump.
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That's kinda how you have to be with Trump and Trump worship: aggressive, because that's how you treat cancer--and that is what Trump and Trump worship is. fucking cancer. It has to be eliminated.
 
UglyCasanova said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?utm_term=.6c11c3de2ddf

While accompanied by the rhetoric of reform, this weekend’s purge resembles the approach of authoritarian regimes such as China. President Xi Jinping has used a similar anti-corruption theme to replace a generation of party and military leaders and to alter the collective leadership style adopted by recent Chinese rulers.
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Maybe because Saudi Arabia is a despotic monarchy?
 
OutHouse said:
DAMN! Yemen just poked the bear.
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You got it the wrong way round; the US and Saudi Arabia are the instigators. Saudi Arabia has been endlessly bombing Yemeni civilians with US ordinance, US jets, and US drones. Yemen fighting back (with one fuckin' missile) isn't exactly earth-shattering.
 
John Connor said:
Once you speak out about Obama, the former President, they'll back you into a corner. If you speak in support of Trump, the current President, they'll back you into a corner. Go figure. We see what kind of audience is here. A lot of Trump derangement syndrome.
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I've mentioned Obama's guilt in slaughtering millions of civilians, and I don't recall your...Uh, detractors acting like thugs to me in response.

See, the problem with you supporting Trump, is that you support a blithering, deranged, psychopathic, infantile, rapacious, incestuous, racist, sexist, power-grabbing, impotent, primitive individual with the mental capacity of an inbred proto-humanoid with a debauched ego problem.

If you detract Obama due to his (very real) immorality, but support that orange wankstain of a corpophage, you're the very definition of a hypocrite by perpetuating immoral tribalism.
 
MajinCry said:
I've mentioned Obama's guilt in slaughtering millions of civilians, and I don't recall your...Uh, detractors acting like thugs to me in response.

See, the problem with you supporting Trump, is that you support a blithering, deranged, psychopathic, infantile, rapacious, incestuous, racist, sexist, power-grabbing, impotent, primitive individual with the mental capacity of an inbred proto-humanoid with a debauched ego problem.

If you detract Obama due to his (very real) immorality, but support that orange wankstain of a corpophage, you're the very definition of a hypocrite by perpetuating immoral tribalism.
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Good grief. Your head is far, far up your ass buddy.
 
MajinCry said:
You got it the wrong way round; the US and Saudi Arabia are the instigators. Saudi Arabia has been endlessly bombing Yemeni civilians with US ordinance, US jets, and US drones. Yemen fighting back (with one fuckin' missile) isn't exactly earth-shattering.
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To be fair, it wasn't just one. They've been launching them for awhile now. Here's a Stratfor puff piece about it.

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/missiles-remain-potent-houthi-weapon

Having said that, they never hit anything much but it's a good way to counter Saudi propaganda about how they're (the Saudis) are winning.
 
Media analysts make too much of MbS (Mohd bin Salman) as the guy behind the latest purge in the 'corruption crackdown'. He is involved to be sure, but its his father King Salman who is the main instigator as thats characteristic of his style since he was Riyadh gov (for over 40 years). He is one of the Sudeiri Seven (was very close to his full brother King Fahad who was the the Saudi strongman at the time). As Riyadh gov, princes used to fear him as he would jail them left and right for any misbehavior. So again, that is characteristic of his style. MbS may give input, but its his father who calls all the shots.
 
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