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If you know what it means you can just read my last paragraph.

At first he called it "passive resistance" (a term he disavowed in later years). The technique was simple: Declare opposition to an unjust law (such as restrictions on free movement), break the law (by crossing a border illegally), and suffer the consequences (arrest, physical abuse, prison). Resisters' calm and dignified suffering, Gandhi believed, would open the eyes of oppressors and weaken the hostility behind repression; rather than adversaries being bullied to capitulate, they would be obliged to see what was right, and that would make them change their minds and actions. Gandhi named this concept of action "satyagraha" (combining the Hindu words for "truth" and "holding firmly.")

But satyagraha soon took on a larger dimension, one that was less a function of its spiritual provenance than its feasibility. Gandhi recognized that there were limits to the exemplary value of personal sacrifice: even the most committed resisters could absorb only so much suffering, and the pride and prejudices typical of entrenched regimes could not be dissolved quickly. If satyagraha was to become a practical political tool, Gandhi realized, it had to bring pressure to bear on its opponents. "I do not believe in making appeals," he wrote, "when there is no force behind them, whether moral or material."

The potential of satyagraha to change an opponent's position, Gandhi believed, came from the dependence of rulers on the cooperation of those who had the choice to obey or resist. While he continued to argue that satyagraha could reveal the truth to opponents and win them over, he often spoke of it in military terms and planned actions that were intended not so much to convert adversaries but to jeopardize their interests if they did not yield. In this way he made satyagraha a realistic alternative for those more interested in what could produce change than in what conscience could justify.

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Have you ever revolted against the norm, knowing it may very well lead to negative changes for yourself because you felt it was the "right" thing to do? I'm the type that almost always does, and I voted for all the above. I have strained family ties, broken relationships, and an ended military career to show for it. Oh, and I also live with no regrets.

Thanks azazyel
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
Thanks for the input Nik, so I'd be the other authority figure then?

Neither of us are authority figures in the medium I mensioned. That's not what I voted anyway.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I do not believe the DMCA is a good thing. I break it frequently.


Good call, hopefully that's a common one among ATers.

Most people break it because they don't know or don't care about it. I break it because I do care. :beer:
 
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The tough ones involve the decisions that you KNOW will have a dire effect on you, the DMCA doesn't scare people because the chances are slim that there'd be any consequences for what most of us would be doing.
 

Wallydraigle

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One time I tore the tag off my pillow when no one was watching. Nothing ever came of it, but if the man came for me I would have taken one for the team.
 
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Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
One time I tore the tag off my pillow when no one was watching. Nothing ever came of it, but if the man came for me I would have taken one for the team.



Good for you, you're in deep if you try to resell that pillow, watch your back at your next yardsale.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I do not believe the DMCA is a good thing. I break it frequently.


Good call, hopefully that's a common one among ATers.

Most people break it because they don't know or don't care about it. I break it because I do care. :beer:

A man of principle!! :Q

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