SATA - How necessary is it?

[Zarick]

Is it something that SHOULD be on my next mobo or is it something I can live without for several years?

 

[Schadenfroh]

you can live without it for several years.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
you can live without it for several years.

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
you can live without it for several years.

 

[Zarick]

umm.. Im guessing that I just dont get the anandtech board ways.
Why do people quote people and then make no statements?

 

[pillage2001]

Cause we don't see that as a needed option for now??

SATA is just another interface and it is not proven to be much faster than the IDE drives. The bottleneck is over at the drives itself and not the interface. Therefore, there's no need for SATA or ATA150 or higher.

 

[SykoFreak]

It means ditto.

 

[OverVolt]

Unless you do RAID0 with two WD Raptors, u can live without it. The drives are the bottleneck

 

[Vegito]

not so when some one decides not to include the 40pin ide connector one day. Then the next guy will say hey if they dont have it, we wont have it.. Eventually all you'll find on ur mobo will be 4 or more sata plugs

Just like how maxtor say 1 year warranty, and the month after, everyone drops 3 year warranty and goes to 1 year

 

[ElFenix]

they're easier to route in your case, thats about it

 

[Zarick]

forceho there is already an ide to sata adapter.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Zarick
forceho there is already an ide to sata adapter.

and they're like $25. i don't know about you but 1/4 or 1/2 the price of a hard drive for the adapter?

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: SykoFreak
It means ditto.

 

[T9D]

..

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: xerosleep
Man I don't know what reviews you guys read but SATA did extremly well and was much better than standard harddrives.

Links?

 

[XBoxLPU]

Originally posted by: xerosleep
Man I don't know what reviews you guys read but SATA did extremly well and was much better than standard harddrives.

the raptor drive is the only SATA drive that has impressed me

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU

Originally posted by: xerosleep
Man I don't know what reviews you guys read but SATA did extremly well and was much better than standard harddrives.

the raptor drive is the only SATA drive that has impressed me

And that's 10k RPM which cannot be compared to other 7200RPM drives.

 

[zephyrprime]

I think you should get SATA. I basically doesn't cost anymore. Unless there's a MB model you really wanted that didn't have SATA, get SATA. All the SATA MB's have PATA too so you don't lose much.

 

[Vegito]

Originally posted by: Zarick
forceho there is already an ide to sata adapter.

yes but im saying eventually they wont even make pata drives at all. SATA will take over since its so cheap and now that intel threw it in the chipset

 

[andyfasthands]

Originally posted by: pillage2001
Cause we don't see that as a needed option for now??

SATA is just another interface and it is not proven to be much faster than the IDE drives. The bottleneck is over at the drives itself and not the interface. Therefore, there's no need for SATA or ATA150 or higher.

When you say the bottleneck is at the drive itself, not the interface, which part of the drive do you mean? Are you suggesting the RPMs make the difference? What else is there to think about other than interface and RPM?

 

[mechBgon]

Anyone seen any rumblings of SATA optical drives yet? Or SATA floppy drives?

Regarding the mobos, to make the enthusiast happy you'd want about six SATA jacks, minimum. And I mean native to the southbridge, not tack-on PCI-based ones. If it had no PATA ports at all, then I'd be thinking eight SATA jacks, at the rate people are adding burners, readers and high-capacity hard drives to store digital content. i875P has two native SATA jacks, and even nForce3 Pro 250 will only have three. I think you can live without SATA for a couple years still.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: andyfasthands

Originally posted by: pillage2001
Cause we don't see that as a needed option for now??

SATA is just another interface and it is not proven to be much faster than the IDE drives. The bottleneck is over at the drives itself and not the interface. Therefore, there's no need for SATA or ATA150 or higher.

When you say the bottleneck is at the drive itself, not the interface, which part of the drive do you mean? Are you suggesting the RPMs make the difference? What else is there to think about other than interface and RPM?

Putting a 0-to-200mph speedometer in a Ford Escort won't make it go 200mph, and giving a drive a 150Mb/sec interface all to itself won't make it perform better than if it were on a 133Mb/sec interface, if the drive itself tops out at ~60-70Mb/sec sustained throughput.

 

[Zarick]

Actually zephyr there is the Epox 8RDA+ that I wanted to get. Its 30 bucks cheaper that the abit board and 40 cheaper than the asus board (not a fan of asus anymore after owning two of their boards) so I wanted to know if I will be sorry I dont have it in the end.

 

[billyjak]

Like everyone said not necessary right now. Wait until SATA 2 protocoll comes and by then the SATA hardrives should be a little more mature.

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: andyfasthands

Originally posted by: pillage2001
Cause we don't see that as a needed option for now??

SATA is just another interface and it is not proven to be much faster than the IDE drives. The bottleneck is over at the drives itself and not the interface. Therefore, there's no need for SATA or ATA150 or higher.

When you say the bottleneck is at the drive itself, not the interface, which part of the drive do you mean? Are you suggesting the RPMs make the difference? What else is there to think about other than interface and RPM?

Putting a 0-to-200mph speedometer in a Ford Escort won't make it go 200mph, and giving a drive a 150Mb/sec interface all to itself won't make it perform better than if it were on a 133Mb/sec interface, if the drive itself tops out at ~60-70Mb/sec sustained throughput.

What he said.