SAT Averages Decline to Record Low

[mugs]

Originally posted by: magomago
SAT is a piss poor measurement of....anything

It is good at measuring what it attempts to measure.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Modular
People still take the SAT's? The ACT is all that's needed for the majority of colleges these days. I'd bet that the scores are decreasing because less colleges require the test and therefore less intelligent people are taking it.

I'm guessing you don't live on one of the coasts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...ACT_Preference_Map.svg

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: j00fek
looks like the presidents plan is working

Yes, it is.

Teachers no longer teach.

They only work towards a goal of getting the U.S. monkey children to memorize to a single set of tests.

Thinking and actually learning anything is NOT the goal.

Mission Accomplished

Please explain this to me - if anything, parents should be blamed for that, not teachers.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Modular
People still take the SAT's? The ACT is all that's needed for the majority of colleges these days. I'd bet that the scores are decreasing because less colleges require the test and therefore less intelligent people are taking it.

I'm guessing you don't live on one of the coasts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...ACT_Preference_Map.svg

Yup. ACT is a midwest thing. Hell, the ACT corporate office is based out of Iowa City, IA.

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: Adn4n
I scored higher than that when it was out of 1600. Sadness.

Same. *sigh* People are getting stupider these days.

People really are.

Think about this:

Today we have amazing medical advances. We can even bring people back from death caused by massive injuries.

How does natural selection work? The less desirable genetic partners die out because of disease or, more importantly, stupidity. Today, stupidity is idolized in popular culture and the sexual culture shifts appropriately.

Stupid people are not only able to reproduce en mass, but when they do something retarded (drunk driving, backyard wrestling, etc.) modern medicine can save their lives, allowing them to continue to reproduce. Plus, with each child they have, they qualify for more government aid.

Meanwhile, smart people have only a few children or none at all.

 

[Triumph]

We need more standardized testing on the fundamentals that everyone should know. Reading, writing, arithmetic.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Modular
People still take the SAT's? The ACT is all that's needed for the majority of colleges these days. I'd bet that the scores are decreasing because less colleges require the test and therefore less intelligent people are taking it.

Is this true? When I was applying for colleges 7 years ago, I only took the SAT and SAT II exams, and I was applying to Ivy's plus next tier schools.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Modular
People still take the SAT's? The ACT is all that's needed for the majority of colleges these days. I'd bet that the scores are decreasing because less colleges require the test and therefore less intelligent people are taking it.

Is this true? When I was applying for colleges 7 years ago, I only took the SAT and SAT II exams, and I was applying to Ivy's plus next tier schools.

I graduated high school in '96 in IL. At the time most colleges - state and private - in the midwest (IL, IA, MN) wanted ACT scores. Most colleges on the coasts wanted SAT scores. As was metioned, it's really a regional preference.

 

[Parasitic]

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: Adn4n
I scored higher than that when it was out of 1600. Sadness.

Same. *sigh* People are getting stupider these days.

People really are.

Think about this:

Today we have amazing medical advances. We can even bring people back from death caused by massive injuries.

How does natural selection work? The less desirable genetic partners die out because of disease or, more importantly, stupidity. Today, stupidity is idolized in popular culture and the sexual culture shifts appropriately.

Stupid people are not only able to reproduce en mass, but when they do something retarded (drunk driving, backyard wrestling, etc.) modern medicine can save their lives, allowing them to continue to reproduce. Plus, with each child they have, they qualify for more government aid.

Meanwhile, smart people have only a few children or none at all.

This is all described in that epic film documentary "Idiocracy".

 

[imported_LoKe]

The share of test-takers for whom English is a second language has nearly doubled in 20 years to 24 percent.

Yep.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: LoKe

The share of test-takers for whom English is a second language has nearly doubled in 20 years to 24 percent.

Yep.

Yet strangely, scores went up for hispanics and down for asians.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: LoKe

The share of test-takers for whom English is a second language has nearly doubled in 20 years to 24 percent.

Yep.

Yet strangely, scores went up for hispanics and down for asians.

One starts at the top and the other at the bottom. It can only go in oune direction after that.

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: Parasitic
This is all described in that epic film documentary "Idiocracy".

Yes it is!!!

Great movie!!

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: Parasitic
This is all described in that epic film documentary "Idiocracy".

Yes it is!!!

Great movie!!

Clevon attempted to jump a jet-ski from a lake into a swimming pool, and impaled his crotch on an iron fencepost. Thankfully, modern medicine was able to save his reproductive organs..

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: Imaginer

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Looks like it's time to dumb down the scoring system again...

More importantly, I hope our schools across the nation does not even FURTHER emphasize on starndardized testing and instead be focused on actually teaching!

Curiously, this seems to work well for most countries in the world.

 

[mzkhadir]

John Stossle - Supid in America

 

[kranky]

I know kids from three different families who either homeschool or their kids do "cyberschool" (school over the Internet). They are all clearly more learned than the other kids I know of the same age. One started college after her junior year of HS because she had completed all the requirements for her HS diploma. I don't think they are natural geniuses with 150+ IQs either.

I have no idea what the problem is in public schools but people better start demanding things get fixed ASAP. I know a kid with a 3.5 HS average who failed out of college as a freshman because he couldn't do the work. It's certainly not a lack of spending on public schools, and it's not a lack of personnel.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: Parasitic
This is all described in that epic film documentary "Idiocracy".

Yes it is!!!

Great movie!!

Clevon attempted to jump a jet-ski from a lake into a swimming pool, and impaled his crotch on an iron fencepost. Thankfully, modern medicine was able to save his reproductive organs..

Shut up! I'm watching Ow My Balls!!! :|:|

 

[chuckywang]

WTF...I scored greater than 1411 in 9th grade (when it was out of 1600).

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: kranky
I know kids from three different families who either homeschool or their kids do "cyberschool" (school over the Internet). They are all clearly more learned than the other kids I know of the same age. One started college after her junior year of HS because she had completed all the requirements for her HS diploma. I don't think they are natural geniuses with 150+ IQs either.

I have no idea what the problem is in public schools but people better start demanding things get fixed ASAP. I know a kid with a 3.5 HS average who failed out of college as a freshman because he couldn't do the work. It's certainly not a lack of spending on public schools, and it's not a lack of personnel.

Cyberschool, eh? I like the sound of that, I'll have to look into it.

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: kranky
I know kids from three different families who either homeschool or their kids do "cyberschool" (school over the Internet). They are all clearly more learned than the other kids I know of the same age. One started college after her junior year of HS because she had completed all the requirements for her HS diploma. I don't think they are natural geniuses with 150+ IQs either.

I have no idea what the problem is in public schools but people better start demanding things get fixed ASAP. I know a kid with a 3.5 HS average who failed out of college as a freshman because he couldn't do the work. It's certainly not a lack of spending on public schools, and it's not a lack of personnel.

Cyberschool, eh? I like the sound of that, I'll have to look into it.

Here's a link to one of them. They are accredited as public schools, meaning the parents pay nothing. The school even provides the computer.

 

[yhelothar]

I'm surprised they mentioned asians. If anything, they raise the average.

 

[Demo24]

cause its a crap test. Just tests on two subjects that you keep flipping around for 3 hours, then you do some writing. It needs to be a 2 hr test

I did horrible on the sat, never got above 1000. Took the ACt and found it to be a much better test and did significantly better on it

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: astroidea
I'm surprised they mentioned asians. If anything, they raise the average.

They have the highest average score by race, but when their average score drops it causes the average to drop (because they're no longer pulling the average up as much as they did previously).

 

[txrandom]

Teaching to the standardized test :thumbsdown: