Sarah Palin writes in Wall Street Journal

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: spidey07
She's exactly right. Really well written and most assuredly agrees with the majority of the country right now. That is what scares the left so much, she's dead on correct and people respect her. She busts through their lies and deception.

Yeah, they respect her so much that she has a 43% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Republicans has sunk, if only 6 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pens1566


Swing and a miss ....

Strike 1

Little dated, but you should get the point.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...eform_falls_to_new_low

"Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That?s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago. "

Notice I didn't attack your source, but I know you attack mine.

The people are waking up and fighting against congress and this administration and disapproval and disagreement with his policies are growing EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Without a public option, Obamacare is not 'government run healthcare' (your words). Hell, even with a public option, it's not really government run healthcare in the sense that healthcare delivery is still private

Most Americans also support some form of a public plan option and ?guaranteed issue??the requirement that
insurance companies not deny coverage to persons based on health status. More than one-half (53 percent) strongly
support the availability of a public plan, while another 30 percent somewhat support it. Fourteen percent oppose the
idea. Similarly, 55 percent strongly support guaranteed issue and 25 percent somewhat support it.

83% support a public plan. you're an idiot.

http://www.ebri.org/pdf/briefs..._IB_7-2009_HCS_091.pdf

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: ccbadd

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Spidey07 asserts, "she's dead on correct and people respect her."

Which does not exactly square with why the McCain Palin ticket lost the presidency by a large margin in 2008. And Palin became a side show freak exhibit every time she opened her mouth.

And in terms of approval numbers, last time I checked, the Palin approval numbers were in the sewer. And approval numbers are closely related to respect.

But I guess every Spidey07 is entitled to his own little delusions, even if they do square with any of the known facts.

What an argument, Obama's sitting at 39%, below Palin's. I love seeing the leftist hacks go nuts because it leads to slews of stupid BS and name calling about everyone else being stupid. Do you guys really think your intelligent or does the Internet make it easier to pretend? Scary thing about the left is that they never try to look down the road more than a day or two and see the harm they cause. When the time to realize it comes about, they blame everyone else.

It's "you're", not "your". Just saying if you're going to go on about intelligence ....

is his argument correct?

No, but someone else has already addressed that.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Citrix

Common sense tells us that the government's attempts to solve large problems more often create new ones.

That, right there, just doesn't make any sense. Like her, it's plain stupid. It's sad that people actually take someone like this seriously.

:roll: you are stupid, her statement rings true. every hear of Medicare Plan-D?

That's the funny thing. It's a well known fact in economics that when the market "fails" and the government intervenes, they make things worse. That is the universal rule of Government Economics.

Yeah, such a 'well known fact in economics' that the majority of economists currently favor government intervention in the markets after the market failure we recently had.

Oops.

The failure in the market was a failure in ill-conceived government regulation plus inadequate enforcement. Government intervention into healthcare will only make things worse for most, better (maybe) for a few.

But wait, if the market fails and the government intervenes, they make things worse? Now you're saying that the government didn't enforce regulation enough (or by another word, 'intervene' enough).

Government intervention into health care is a proven solution that continues to be proven every single day in every single other industrialized nation on the planet. It is simply more efficient. How this continues to be an argument considering the mountains of data available is beyond me. Something tells me if the US had a socialized system and every other country in the 1st world had a private one which had a similar efficiency advantage, you would be shouting this as evidence for why we should change to their way of doing things.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pens1566


Swing and a miss ....

Strike 1

Little dated, but you should get the point.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...eform_falls_to_new_low

"Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That?s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago. "

Notice I didn't attack your source, but I know you attack mine.

The people are waking up and fighting against congress and this administration and disapproval and disagreement with his policies are growing EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Without a public option, Obamacare is not 'government run healthcare' (your words). Hell, even with a public option, it's not really government run healthcare in the sense that healthcare delivery is still private

Most Americans also support some form of a public plan option and ?guaranteed issue??the requirement that
insurance companies not deny coverage to persons based on health status. More than one-half (53 percent) strongly
support the availability of a public plan, while another 30 percent somewhat support it. Fourteen percent oppose the
idea. Similarly, 55 percent strongly support guaranteed issue and 25 percent somewhat support it.

83% support a public plan. you're an idiot.

http://www.ebri.org/pdf/briefs..._IB_7-2009_HCS_091.pdf

Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent

Way to go only to your "approved sources" for your slanted numbers. Next, you will claim that the AP is a "widely discredited right-wing wackjob source".

:roll:

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Hahaha, you went and looked up what 'statistical significance' is, huh?

 

[ccbadd]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: ccbadd

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Spidey07 asserts, "she's dead on correct and people respect her."

Which does not exactly square with why the McCain Palin ticket lost the presidency by a large margin in 2008. And Palin became a side show freak exhibit every time she opened her mouth.

And in terms of approval numbers, last time I checked, the Palin approval numbers were in the sewer. And approval numbers are closely related to respect.

But I guess every Spidey07 is entitled to his own little delusions, even if they do square with any of the known facts.

What an argument, Obama's sitting at 39%, below Palin's. I love seeing the leftist hacks go nuts because it leads to slews of stupid BS and name calling about everyone else being stupid. Do you guys really think your intelligent or does the Internet make it easier to pretend? Scary thing about the left is that they never try to look down the road more than a day or two and see the harm they cause. When the time to realize it comes about, they blame everyone else.

It's "you're", not "your". Just saying if you're going to go on about intelligence ....

Kind of made my point. All you can come up with is a grammatical error. You forgot the lefty signature juvenile name calling, better edit your response.

 

[Pens1566]

I think someone else handled the rest already sparky.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Hahaha, you went and looked up what 'statistical significance' is, huh?

You probably think that Obama won by a "landslide", too.

:roll:

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pens1566


Swing and a miss ....

Strike 1

Little dated, but you should get the point.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...eform_falls_to_new_low

"Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That?s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago. "

Notice I didn't attack your source, but I know you attack mine.

The people are waking up and fighting against congress and this administration and disapproval and disagreement with his policies are growing EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Without a public option, Obamacare is not 'government run healthcare' (your words). Hell, even with a public option, it's not really government run healthcare in the sense that healthcare delivery is still private

Most Americans also support some form of a public plan option and ?guaranteed issue??the requirement that
insurance companies not deny coverage to persons based on health status. More than one-half (53 percent) strongly
support the availability of a public plan, while another 30 percent somewhat support it. Fourteen percent oppose the
idea. Similarly, 55 percent strongly support guaranteed issue and 25 percent somewhat support it.

83% support a public plan. you're an idiot.

http://www.ebri.org/pdf/briefs..._IB_7-2009_HCS_091.pdf

Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent

Way to go only to your "approved sources" for your slanted numbers. Next, you will claim that the AP is a "widely discredited right-wing wackjob source".

:roll:

This is what Spidey07 originally said:

Originally posted by: spidey07


Polls show most people don't want government run healthcare, so yeah, the majority DO agree with her and this article.

Now read my reply again, maybe it'll take you an hour or two to put 2+2 together (hint: the public option is up in the air and probably won't be passed).

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Hahaha, you went and looked up what 'statistical significance' is, huh?

So the degree of separation between good and evil is 7%? What exactly is your point?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: dphantom
Way to go Sarah!!

:thumbsup:

We have got to have her as our President

I think not. But what she wrote is what every one who truly understands the difficulty of health care agrees with. Government is not the answer. Free market options are.

lolol

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Citrix

Common sense tells us that the government's attempts to solve large problems more often create new ones.

That, right there, just doesn't make any sense. Like her, it's plain stupid. It's sad that people actually take someone like this seriously.

:roll: you are stupid, her statement rings true. every hear of Medicare Plan-D?

That's the funny thing. It's a well known fact in economics that when the market "fails" and the government intervenes, they make things worse. That is the universal rule of Government Economics.

:roll:

come back when you actually know something about economics

 

[imported_inspire]

Originally posted by: Phokus
83% support a public plan. you're an idiot.

http://www.ebri.org/pdf/briefs..._IB_7-2009_HCS_091.pdf

Hey Phokus - It's September, dude - how about you provide a source that's actually relevant to TODAY'S political opinion, since it's actually SEPTEMBER - NOT JULY.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Pens1566


Swing and a miss ....

Strike 1

Little dated, but you should get the point.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...eform_falls_to_new_low

"Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That?s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago. "

Notice I didn't attack your source, but I know you attack mine.

The people are waking up and fighting against congress and this administration and disapproval and disagreement with his policies are growing EVERY SINGLE DAY.

obamas plan isn't government run healthcare, nor does the opinion on one specific plan carry over the the opinion on a vague concept such as government run healthcare.

 

[Blackjack200]

When I saw the thread title, I though, 'hmm, I wonder if she used crayons?' but I realized that Sarah Palin didn't write a thing as soon at I saw the word "Bureaucratization". Nothing more than an industry-backed think tank piece signed (or, more likely, stamped) by Sarah Palin to give it credability (LOL).

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Hahaha, you went and looked up what 'statistical significance' is, huh?

So the degree of separation between good and evil is 7%? What exactly is your point?

The degree of separation between 'statistically significant' and 'not statistically significant' is less than 7%. (and really it should be more like 9.5% if you take the RCP average)

Considering the only 'evidence' he offered to rebut what I wrote were Obama's approval ratings and their supposed statistical equality to Palin's, my point would be that RPS is an idiot.

 

[cyclohexane]

wait a minute, sarah palin could write?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Dari
I haven't been paying attention to the healthcare debate because I thought it was a foregone conclusion that reform was really needed. But the many setbacks the Administration has faced in the past two months led me to read the comments on one of the leaders on the Conservative side, Sarah Palin. But it's hard to take someone seriously who would write something like this:

Common sense tells us that the government's attempts to solve large problems more often create new ones.

That, right there, just doesn't make any sense. Like her, it's plain stupid. It's sad that people actually take someone like this seriously.
-snip-

I stopped reading right there.

This is one of her statements that DOES make sense. It's called the 'Law of Unintended Consequences", and d@mn, our governmemt trips over that nearly every time they pass any legislation.

Fern

 

[BMW540I6speed]

The rise of the Palins/Becks/Limbaughs is a product of the collapse of conservatism as an organized political force, and the rise of conservatism as an alienated cultural sensibility.?

It's sad that legitimate concerns about an issue (like big government, too much spending, Health Care) fall flat in public discourse in favor for psychotic ramblings (Nazi/Obama, death panels, Obama' brownshirts, Obama/communist).

 

[Lemon law]

Need I remind this forum that GWB spent his last years in office hoovering around an 30% approval rating and after the economy melted down, he left office with approvals more in the low twenties.

Its a wee mite premature to judge Obama yet, even though he is clearly taking a beating over all the controversy and confusion over health care reform. And much of the controversy and confusion is being spun by the GOP.

Once there is a somewhat final version of the plan, the GOP is going to be between a rock and a hard place when asked to defend the current rotten system, a luxury the GOP has thus far evaded, even at this late date.

At a certain point, specifics talk and bullshit walks. And if we did not have enough bullshit floating around, there is always Sarah Palin adding some more.

At the end of the day, this is still somewhat like the immediate aftermath of the great depression, for at least two decades, the American people may have
had there doubts about democratic programs, but they never forgot that it was the GOP who broke it.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: inspire

Originally posted by: Phokus
83% support a public plan. you're an idiot.

http://www.ebri.org/pdf/briefs..._IB_7-2009_HCS_091.pdf

Hey Phokus - It's September, dude - how about you provide a source that's actually relevant to TODAY'S political opinion, since it's actually SEPTEMBER - NOT JULY.

1. Spidey07's post and his poll directly contradict each other.

2. http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...h_care_kaiser_8411.php

Do you favor or oppose creating a government-administered public health insurance option similar to Medicare to compete with private health insurance plans?
59% Favor
38% Oppose

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Dari

Common sense tells us that the government's attempts to solve large problems more often create new ones.

That, right there, just doesn't make any sense. Like her, it's plain stupid. It's sad that people actually take someone like this seriously.
-snip-

I stopped reading right there.

This is one of her statements that DOES make sense. It's called the 'Law of Unintended Consequences", and d@mn, our governmemt trips over that nearly every time they pass any legislation.

Exactly. Government doesn't work. Elect republicans and...

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Hahaha, you went and looked up what 'statistical significance' is, huh?

So the degree of separation between good and evil is 7%? What exactly is your point?

The degree of separation between 'statistically significant' and 'not statistically significant' is less than 7%. (and really it should be more like 9.5% if you take the RCP average)

Considering the only 'evidence' he offered to rebut what I wrote were Obama's approval ratings and their supposed statistical equality to Palin's, my point would be that RPS is an idiot.

Hmmm...agree 7% is statistically significant...but it appears that the gist of his post was in response to the following:

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: spidey07
She's exactly right. Really well written and most assuredly agrees with the majority of the country right now. That is what scares the left so much, she's dead on correct and people respect her. She busts through their lies and deception.

Yeah, they respect her so much that she has a 43% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Republicans has sunk, if only 6 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

To expand on your 'logic'...one could conclude that Pelosi's 62% disapproval rating as well as Obama's disapproval rating exceeding his approval rating by 8% are both ''statistically significant' indicators of just how low the bar for Democrats has sunk...no?

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Uh, the president's approval rating is hovering right around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher depending on which poll you view. That isn't a statistically significant improvement over Palin's so-called "horrible" favorable rating.

So, your point again? Wait, you don't have a valid point.

Actually it IS a statistically significant improvement over Sarah Palin's. Go learn about statistics.

I love it. You attack the messenger, instead of addressing the message.

To put it in eskimospy speak:

Yeah, they respect him so much that he has a 50% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Democrats has sunk, if only 5 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

Hahaha, you went and looked up what 'statistical significance' is, huh?

So the degree of separation between good and evil is 7%? What exactly is your point?

The degree of separation between 'statistically significant' and 'not statistically significant' is less than 7%. (and really it should be more like 9.5% if you take the RCP average)

Considering the only 'evidence' he offered to rebut what I wrote were Obama's approval ratings and their supposed statistical equality to Palin's, my point would be that RPS is an idiot.

Hmmm...agree 7% is statistically significant...but it appears that the gist of his post was in response to the following:

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: spidey07
She's exactly right. Really well written and most assuredly agrees with the majority of the country right now. That is what scares the left so much, she's dead on correct and people respect her. She busts through their lies and deception.

Yeah, they respect her so much that she has a 43% favorable rating. This is how low the bar for Republicans has sunk, if only 6 out of 10 people dislike you, you're looking good!

To expand on your 'logic'...one could conclude that Pelosi's 62% disapproval rating as well as Obama's disapproval rating exceeding his approval rating by 8% are both ''statistically significant' indicators of just how low the bar for Democrats has sunk...no?

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Thank you...someone who can read, instead of getting all bent-out-of-shape about one misused word. I do find it amusing how he got all up-in-arms arguing about the word "statistical", immediately resorted to the insults, and never addressed the points I made. Deflect and insult. It gets tiresome.

He acts like Palin's approval numbers are in the 20s and Obama's are in the 70s. That would be significant. Instead, the difference is 7%...not that great by any stretch of the imagination.