Sarah Palin under attack for nominating a true conservative for Alaska's AG

[Phokus]

He called homosexuals ?degenerates,? hailed the ?courage? of a student who lionized the Ku Klux Klan, vowed to undermine the sovereignty of Native American tribes, and allegedly defended men who rape their wives.

Among them is a 1993 piece entitled, ?KKK ?art? project gets ?A? for courage,? in which Ross cheered on a local college student who had offended an African-American classmate by creating a statue of a Klansman with a cross in one hand and a flag in the other. ?It might have been fun to see [the African-American student] try to remove the display,? Ross wrote. ?Then she could have been arrested and her future as a student of the university could have been resolved through the university disciplinary proceedings.?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/b...13/palins-new-disaster

Ah yes, Palin, the gift that keeps on giving. I know most liberals are begging the GOP to nominate this fool for 2012. You may or may not remember my post about the modern conservative movement and the 'southern strategy'. What more proof do you need about the GOP's roots?

edit sources:

http://community.adn.com/node/140395
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140440
http://rossandminer.com/articles.html
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/737653.html
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/737653.html
http://progressivealaska.blogs...thony-ross-op-eds.html

 

[OCGuy]

Edit: OK you fixed it.



More left-wing blog garbage....


Dont feed it...

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, that's credible. More typical BS.

 

[StageLeft]

I am guessing this guy isn't a good example of the GOP's roots.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Edit: OK you fixed it.



More left-wing blog garbage....


Dont feed it...

Yes, attack the source, not the content, here are the links they use as sources

http://community.adn.com/node/140395
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140440
http://rossandminer.com/articles.html
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/737653.html
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/737653.html
http://progressivealaska.blogs...thony-ross-op-eds.html

 

[Vette73]

Yea Palin is a idiot, but please stop posting blogs like this. P&N has enough of this type of garbage.


Now if you have more crediable sources then ok.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I am guessing this guy isn't a good example of the GOP's roots.

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats

 

[Genx87]

A party that was founded in 1854 on anti-slavery activism has its roots in hating blacks eh?

More comedy from Phokus. Why do I feel like Phokus's definition of roots changes based on what kind of idiotic argument he is making? Lets forget the decades of terribad racism by the democrats because their roots are from the mid 70s right? lmao.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Genx87
A party that was founded in 1854 on anti-slavery activism has its roots in hating blacks eh?

More comedy from Phokus. Why do I feel like Phokus's definition of roots changes based on what kind of idiotic argument he is making? Lets forget the decades of terribad racism by the democrats because their roots are from the mid 70s right? lmao.

Yeah, i was talking about modern conservativism.

Yesterday's dixiecrats are today's republicans.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Genx87
A party that was founded in 1854 on anti-slavery activism has its roots in hating blacks eh?

More comedy from Phokus. Why do I feel like Phokus's definition of roots changes based on what kind of idiotic argument he is making? Lets forget the decades of terribad racism by the democrats because their roots are from the mid 70s right? lmao.

Yeah, we're talking about modern conservativism, silly

Yesterday's dixiecrats are today's republicans.

Which way do you want it? The parties roots or what it has evolved into today?

Dixecrats are a relic from the 1940's and didnt gain much traction. Most of the prominent members remained democrats to the end.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Which way do you want it? The parties roots or what it has evolved into today?

lol. I think you just admitted republicans hate blacks

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: OCguy
Edit: OK you fixed it.



More left-wing blog garbage....


Dont feed it...

Yes, attack the source, not the content, here are the links they use as sources

http://community.adn.com/node/140395
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140440
http://rossandminer.com/articles.html
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/737653.html
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/737653.html
http://progressivealaska.blogs...thony-ross-op-eds.html

What do you do when you see a story from Fox News?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Genx87
Which way do you want it? The parties roots or what it has evolved into today?

lol. I think you just admitted republicans hate blacks

No but I will admit their reputation among the black community is poor through many of their strategies. Hating is a strong word and I dont see many if any republican politicians outright stating they hate blacks.

The Southern strategy looks terrible I will admit.

Of course the saddest part imo is the black community is now lockstep with a party that imo doesnt have their best interest in mind. But where do they turn? They have a Republican party that is happy to ignore them and a Democrat party that wants to keep them where they are to ensure votes.

 

[OCGuy]

The OP is suggesting "true conservatives" hate blacks and gays.

I honestly dont believe you will be around much longer with garbage like that if P&N wants to stay relevant/civil.

You are 10X worse that Winnar ever was.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: OCguy
The OP is suggesting "true conservatives" hate blacks and gays.

I honestly dont believe you will be around much longer with garbage like that if P&N wants to stay relevant/civil.

You are 10X worse that Winnar ever was.

I don't know if he is worse then Winnar, but he's at least as bad. He'd bitch if we hung him with a new rope.

 

[Craig234]

I'm not going to get into details on the history in this post, but will make one point:

Since the civil rights bills, the Republicans have been the party that has bad policies for blacks, compared to the democrats. They give lip service to blacks to the extent needed to avoid alienating their white members who are not racist. They could be a lot worse, they're far from the 'lynching party', they simply are the party of the ultra wealthy and some allies needed to get elected, and as such, it so happens blacks, the poorest race, bear the biggest brunt of their anti-poor policies. Before the civil rights bills, the parties were more equal - the Democrats providing both more leadership from outside the south, and being home to the Dixicrats/boweevils/racists, making plenty of compromises with them, while Republicans were pretty much in the middle.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Since the civil rights bills, the Republicans have been the party that has bad policies for blacks, compared to the democrats.

Yeah, the self-perpetuating welfare state is a horrible Republican creation... oh wait...

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: OCguy
The OP is suggesting "true conservatives" hate blacks and gays.

I honestly dont believe you will be around much longer with garbage like that if P&N wants to stay relevant/civil.

You are 10X worse that Winnar ever was.

Impossible!

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Genx87

A party that was founded in 1854 on anti-slavery activism has its roots in hating blacks eh?

Sadly, far too large a segment of them base their political careers on it, now.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Craig234
Since the civil rights bills, the Republicans have been the party that has bad policies for blacks, compared to the democrats.

Yeah, the myth of the self-perpetuating welfare state is a horrible Republican creation...

Fixed.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I am guessing this guy isn't a good example of the GOP's roots.

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats

It is your contention that these people are "true conservatives"?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Genx87
Which way do you want it? The parties roots or what it has evolved into today?

lol. I think you just admitted republicans hate blacks

No but I will admit their reputation among the black community is poor through many of their strategies. Hating is a strong word and I dont see many if any republican politicians outright stating they hate blacks.

The Southern strategy looks terrible I will admit.

Of course the saddest part imo is the black community is now lockstep with a party that imo doesnt have their best interest in mind. But where do they turn? They have a Republican party that is happy to ignore them and a Democrat party that wants to keep them where they are to ensure votes.

I don't necessarily think the republican leadership is itself racist, but they certainly used strategies that were made to appear more favorable to the racist southern whites by showing they would help 'them' and not help or even hurt the blacks.

That's true even of today (see Karl Rove)

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Craig234
Since the civil rights bills, the Republicans have been the party that has bad policies for blacks, compared to the democrats.

Yeah, the myth of the self-perpetuating welfare state is a horrible Republican creation...

I'm a partisan hack with no useful input.

Fixed.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Phokus

I don't necessarily think the republican leadership is itself racist, but they certainly used strategies that were made to appear more favorable to the racist southern whites by showing they would help 'them' and not help or even hurt the blacks.

That's true even of today (see Karl Rove)

You mean like Democrats pushing Affirmative Action? Isnt that appealing to one group and hurting the other?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Genx87
Which way do you want it? The parties roots or what it has evolved into today?

lol. I think you just admitted republicans hate blacks

No but I will admit their reputation among the black community is poor through many of their strategies. Hating is a strong word and I dont see many if any republican politicians outright stating they hate blacks.

The Southern strategy looks terrible I will admit.

Of course the saddest part imo is the black community is now lockstep with a party that imo doesnt have their best interest in mind. But where do they turn? They have a Republican party that is happy to ignore them and a Democrat party that wants to keep them where they are to ensure votes.

I don't necessarily think the republican leadership is itself racist, but they certainly used strategies that were made to appear more favorable to the racist southern whites by showing they would help 'them' and not help or even hurt the blacks.

That's true even of today (see Karl Rove)

Maybe you are mistaken that Karl orchestrated McCains campaign?!?!?!?!?
Karl gained Bush 45% of the Latino vote by pandering to their needs and campaigning hard in their areas. Karl understood Republicans cant be an all white party. McCains campaign staff was clueless and it showed in that demographic.