Sarah Palin to be McCain's VP!!

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Vic
Maybe it motivates his base a bit

a BIT?!?!

have you been watching conservative sites AT ALL?

they are going into throes of ecstasy . . .

I can tell you this... she sure as hell "motivates" me. 🙂 🙂

That is not the kind of 'motivation' that is going to win McCain any Hillary votes.

What you really need to figure out is if you are 'motivated' for the possibility of Sarah Palin becoming President of the United States.

Of the 4 at the top of the tickets, she would be my #1 choice regardless of circumstances. I think this might be the first election I can remember where the VP's are probably better picks for presidential nomination than the nominees themselves.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Of the 4 at the top of the tickets, she would be my #1 choice regardless of circumstances. I think this might be the first election I can remember where the VP's are probably better picks for presidential nomination than the nominees themselves.

srsly, I'm still looking for my Biden/Obama sticker.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Yea, someone who spent a year as governor of a state that was barely affected by any of the issues that the other 49 states are dealing with thanks to mandatory payments by the oil industry is infinitely more prepared to step in as President. :roll:

Yeah, because Barak has TOTALLY pushed alot of legislature through the Senate...she's a whopping 3 years younger than Obama and she's done alot more politically...

There's a difference between holding an office and actually doing something.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: Thegonagle
She's the one under investigation for abuse of power, right?

Yeah - for removing the head of the Public Service Commission for not firing her former brother-in-law, a State Trooper that was known to regularly drive his police car home from bars while intoxicated.

Last time I checked, she can remove her appointed personnel at will. That's what she did.

Especially when that asshole didn't listen to her and fire the SOB former BIL.

Yep. This *should* be an absolute non-issue, or even a positive, but we'll see how it's spun.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: bdude

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: bdude
Topic Title: Why did he choose this woman, when there are others that qualify moreso?

Why did Dems choose a black man, when there are others that qualify moreso?

Name me another African American pol. I already have a few in mind, but just curious who you bring out.

Why? What does skin color have to do with qualification for national office? Why do I have to name you another BLACK politician unless your real reason for giving him your vote is because of his skin color? He said "others that qualify moreson" not "other BLACK MEN that qualify moreso." Point being, regardless of skin color, he is the least qualified in the bunch.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Vic
Hard to see how this helps McCain's campaign. Maybe it motivates his base a bit, but his ticket is now 2 west coast conservatives against 2 east coast liberals. And Hillary supporters aren't going to jump to McCain just because he put a token woman on the ticket, that's not how women operate politically.

The location of her state hardly matters. It helps him by solidifying the conservative vote. She is a strong conservative woman and she will bring in the undecided or independent woman, the ones that were only voting for Hillary because they wanted to see a woman in the whitehouse. She also has executive experience, although short. She also helps a whole lot on the domestic issues front.

She is the cheese to McCain's cake.

Ummmm, no.

As has been pointed out in the other direction, McCain already had the conservative vote (just as Barack already has the liberal).

What this picks does is show the desperation of the McCain campaign to try to get the disgruntled Hillary voters. The conservatives were not going to switch and vote for "the most liberal Senator in Congress" any more than the pro-life democratic females are going to turn around now and vote for a "Pro-life, gun totting woman" just because she shares a common anatomy.

And the location of her state matters greatly. What it will end up being is a battering ram that is used to hammer home that she was in charge of as many people as a lot of middle management in large companies while a mayor and hasn't had to face the challenges that most of the country has had to deal with as a governor.

They are stupid if they think they will get enough disgruntled Hillary voters with Palin to make a difference. There are plenty of conservatives that just would not have voted in the election which would have been a problem, I never said they would have switched teams.

Barack will have no problem with the liberal vote because he is a liberal, McCain will have problem with the conservative and Christian vote because he is not either of those... at least not very good at them.

I disagree, the state location will not matter so much. People in WA don't have the deal with the same stuff that people in Florida have to deal with, but that doesn't mean that governor of WA doesn't have the experience (our current governor does not, however). Hell, even the governor of a state close to florida doesn't deal with the same problems as florida... no state has the same problems as another, so your point is moot. The idea is that a governor runs the same type of government that the president does... it doesn't mean the governor has to be well versed in every possible problem in every state.

The location of the state is not a big deal, and hasn't mattered for a VP pick in 40 some odd years.

 

[First]

Biden's going to go wild at the VP debates. I kind of feel bad for her.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: eskimospy
If this does in fact turn out to be his plan, I say today is the day he screwed himself. Do other people here genuinely think that McCain can get these Democrats and keep them until November? If so, why?

Absolutely not, any "true" Hilary supporter would never switch over to to a Republican Canadiate like John McSame. You'd need to do a massive 180 shift in your worldview; McCain is a conservative and for the war. Hilary is not.

McCain is a Conservative? When did this occur?

McSame, wow, stay up late thinking of that one?? Odd that you sorta...you know...didn't spell the rest of his name right. Like...uhh...hrm...Lowbama!!!

Steven's right, McCain is moderate as best.

 

[MikeyLSU]

Why can't people understand the difference in experience with President and VP?

I will not vote for any president under the assumption he/she will die and VP would take over.

 

[lupi]

Holy cow my thread has been fubared. 🙁


Well I guess he made the right choice with how quickly the hacks have begun to foam at the mouth and go to attack mode. It's a shame that the disciple their messiah picked only got a chuckle from the other side.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Druidx

Originally posted by: eits
dude, when your population is that small, you've got a much higher probability of having a higher percentage of happier people than if you have a population of millions... it's easy math.

You must be using the new math. In the old math, percentages don't change based on size of population. I think that's why it's called a percentage.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

take sociology.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Vic
Hard to see how this helps McCain's campaign. Maybe it motivates his base a bit, but his ticket is now 2 west coast conservatives against 2 east coast liberals. And Hillary supporters aren't going to jump to McCain just because he put a token woman on the ticket, that's not how women operate politically.

The location of her state hardly matters. It helps him by solidifying the conservative vote. She is a strong conservative woman and she will bring in the undecided or independent woman, the ones that were only voting for Hillary because they wanted to see a woman in the whitehouse. She also has executive experience, although short. She also helps a whole lot on the domestic issues front.

She is the cheese to McCain's cake.

Ummmm, no.

As has been pointed out in the other direction, McCain already had the conservative vote (just as Barack already has the liberal).

What this picks does is show the desperation of the McCain campaign to try to get the disgruntled Hillary voters. The conservatives were not going to switch and vote for "the most liberal Senator in Congress" any more than the pro-life democratic females are going to turn around now and vote for a "Pro-life, gun totting woman" just because she shares a common anatomy.

And the location of her state matters greatly. What it will end up being is a battering ram that is used to hammer home that she was in charge of as many people as a lot of middle management in large companies while a mayor and hasn't had to face the challenges that most of the country has had to deal with as a governor.

They are stupid if they think they will get enough disgruntled Hillary voters with Palin to make a difference. There are plenty of conservatives that just would not have voted in the election which would have been a problem, I never said they would have switched teams.

Barack will have no problem with the liberal vote because he is a liberal, McCain will have problem with the conservative and Christian vote because he is not either of those... at least not very good at them.

I disagree, the state location will not matter so much. People in WA don't have the deal with the same stuff that people in Florida have to deal with, but that doesn't mean that governor of WA doesn't have the experience (our current governor does not, however). Hell, even the governor of a state close to florida doesn't deal with the same problems as florida... no state has the same problems as another, so your point is moot. The idea is that a governor runs the same type of government that the president does... it doesn't mean the governor has to be well versed in every possible problem in every state.

The location of the state is not a big deal, and hasn't mattered for a VP pick in 40 some odd years.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Gregoire (WA governor) I believe is more qualified to be president than Palin is, she served as state attorney general for a long time and has been governor for nearly 4 years now.

..and while we are talking about her I thought it an interesting idea that she may get appoint attorney general of the U.S. for her early support of Obama, but I think it will probably not happen because they risk losing the state to Republicans.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

dude, when your population is that small, you've got a much higher probability of having a higher percentage of happier people than if you have a population of millions... it's easy math.

I have a PhD in mathematics. I used to teach introductory mathematics courses at college. And let me tell you: with that kind of math, you would have flunked out of any of my classes.

Please, go back to college (or high school) and take a math class. And while your are there, take a course in logic as well. I'm sure we all would appreciate it.

you're wrong. it's easier to please a smaller population than a very large population. it's ridiculously easier to have a 75% approval rating with a population of 6,500 than with 12.4 million.

good God you're still an idiot. If her approval rating was based on number of people then you would be right, you're dealing with percentages here dumbass.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Having grown up in small towns most of my childhood and living in a couple as adults, I wouldn't want the city council members of those towns or the mayor of any of them running anything bigger than a county fair.

The fact that she was governor is a nice aside, but the real tell sign that the right are trying their best to trick themselves into believing this is a good thing is her "domestic policy" experience?

What, besides dealing with oil execs does she know about domestic policy? What are her views on the healthcare crisis? What about the deficit? What about Wall St. scandals, the housing industry and financial industry in the midst of the biggest crisis in a couple of decades?

Yea, someone who spent a year as governor of a state that was barely affected by any of the issues that the other 49 states are dealing with thanks to mandatory payments by the oil industry is infinitely more prepared to step in as President. :roll:

The Permanent Fund Dividend (Which you might want to do a bit of research on before you go spouting off about it) doesn't even BEGIN to cover the higher cost of living in Alaska.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
You might be right that he didn't have any appealing choices and he picked the best of a bad lot. Palin might hurt him less then say... Romney. It still seems like it hurts him pretty badly in terms of strategy.

I dont see how. I just dont. When she a) has arguably as much if not more experience (and definitely more RELEVANT experience) than the guy at the top of the ticket for the other side, b) is much more conservative that McCain, and c) let's face it, there are women out there that WILL vote Republican because of her, I dont see how its a bad pick at all.

ESPECIALLY with the liberal media saying it was a bad pick. That makes me like her even more.

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Vic
Maybe it motivates his base a bit

a BIT?!?!

have you been watching conservative sites AT ALL?

they are going into throes of ecstasy . . .

Yes but those are voters who McCain had at first hello.

you obviously haven't been following the conservative side AT ALL

there were a ton who were either going to

a) sit out the election [or]
b) hold their nose and vote McCain

what this does is gets them excited, out on the campaign trail and OPENING THEIR WALLETS, something they have refused to do up to this point

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
Why can't people understand the difference in experience with President and VP?

I will not vote for any president under the assumption he/she will die and VP would take over.

No one is saying that you should assume that it will happen either.

But when one is as old as McCain is and has had the health history that he has...to not even consider it is even more asinine. IF that were to happen, would you feel absolutely comfortable with Palin dealing with Putin or the Iraq situation?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Biden's going to go wild at the VP debates. I kind of feel bad for her.

There's normally only one VP debate.

Don't feel too bad, it's all about the 'talking points' and almost anyone can be fed enough of them to at least come off ok for the partisans on their side, at least.

I think we can say it's pretty likely some here on the right will claim she won.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: eskimospy
You might be right that he didn't have any appealing choices and he picked the best of a bad lot. Palin might hurt him less then say... Romney. It still seems like it hurts him pretty badly in terms of strategy.

I dont see how. I just dont. When she a) has arguably as much if not more experience (and definitely more RELEVANT experience) than the guy at the top of the ticket for the other side, b) is much more conservative that McCain, and c) let's face it, there are women out there that WILL vote Republican because of her, I dont see how its a bad pick at all.

ESPECIALLY with the liberal media saying it was a bad pick. That makes me like her even more.

Definitely more relevant experience? Are you kidding me? Obama worked in the United States Senate and passed through legislation, I don't care if it is executive power being the governor of Alaska doesn't prepare you for operating Washington as well as being a senator. At the very least it is an arguable point, so I remove your "definitely."

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: tynopik

Originally posted by: Vic
Maybe it motivates his base a bit

a BIT?!?!

have you been watching conservative sites AT ALL?

they are going into throes of ecstasy . . .

I can tell you this... she sure as hell "motivates" me. 🙂 🙂

That is not the kind of 'motivation' that is going to win McCain any Hillary votes.

What you really need to figure out is if you are 'motivated' for the possibility of Sarah Palin becoming President of the United States.

Of the 4 at the top of the tickets, she would be my #1 choice regardless of circumstances. I think this might be the first election I can remember where the VP's are probably better picks for presidential nomination than the nominees themselves.

So you're saying you would vote for Palin for POTUS is she was on top of the ticket?

Or were you just avoiding my question?

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
As has been pointed out in the other direction, McCain already had the conservative vote

he might have had their vote, but he didn't have their support and he certainly did NOT have their money

McCain was not a candidate that excited conservatives and they weren't going to open their wallet for him

this changes that

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: eskimospy
You might be right that he didn't have any appealing choices and he picked the best of a bad lot. Palin might hurt him less then say... Romney. It still seems like it hurts him pretty badly in terms of strategy.

I dont see how. I just dont. When she a) has arguably as much if not more experience (and definitely more RELEVANT experience) than the guy at the top of the ticket for the other side, b) is much more conservative that McCain, and c) let's face it, there are women out there that WILL vote Republican because of her, I dont see how its a bad pick at all.

ESPECIALLY with the liberal media saying it was a bad pick. That makes me like her even more.

Definitely more relevant experience? Are you kidding me? Obama worked in the United States Senate and passed through legislation, I don't care if it is executive power being the governor of Alaska doesn't prepare you for operating Washington as well as being a senator. At the very least it is an arguable point, so I remove your "definitely."

If voting for the "Bridge to Nowhere" (Obama) means being able to operate in DC vs killing the "Bridge to Nowhere" project (Palin), I'll take the person that killed it.

 

[AmberClad]

Hmm. Depending on the angle the photo was taken at, she looks an awful lot like Tina Fey from SNL.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Biden's going to go wild at the VP debates. I kind of feel bad for her.

I dont. If anything, he's going to come off looking like a lunatic. Remember Lazio walking to hillary's podium to hand her something? Remember the mileage she got out of playing the "assaulted" woman? How dare he invade my space as a woman? Yeah... and that was just offering a piece of paper to her. Biden gets aggressive and it could backfire very badly just because Palin is a woman... nevermind that she could end up wiping the floor with him (I have no idea if she is capable of it... never seen her in a debate).

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Druidx

Originally posted by: eits
dude, when your population is that small, you've got a much higher probability of having a higher percentage of happier people than if you have a population of millions... it's easy math.

You must be using the new math. In the old math, percentages don't change based on size of population. I think that's why it's called a percentage.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

take sociology.

I did. Easiest class I ever took. Couldn't wait to finish and get back to hard science classes.