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Sarah Palin to be McCain's VP!!

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I may need more time to process this since I just found out a minute ago, but first reaction is this may be the worst VP choice in recent memory. It completely undercuts his main argument (experience)
 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

Look I don't care who McCain could have picked, even if he picked a frog, I wouldn't care... what bothers me is that McCain has been bugging Obama about experience past 3 months! And now he picks someone with not much experience than Obama. What does this tell me? They are playing this gain vote game, no substance. Why you people are so ignorant and can't see what McCain camp is doing!

It comes to this, if someone happens to obama, biden will take over. If something happens to mccain, this cheerleader will take over, OKAY, can I get more clearer?
 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

dude, when your population is that small, you've got a much higher probability of having a higher percentage of happier people than if you have a population of millions... it's easy math.
 
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Let me see if I have this right: the GOP is pinning its hopes on disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters?

What other reason to select Palin?

She solidifies the GOP base behind the ticket.
She brings strength in domestic issues. A weakness of McCain.

Put it this way, Obama should theoretically be blowing McCain out of the water right now, but day to day tracking polls them in a dead heat.

Latest national polls show Obama up by as much as 8 points. The DNC went off quite well.

With only a very few exceptions, non-incumbent Presidential elections are always close, mostly because in those elections only independents and swing voters do the deciding. That 'theoretical' everyone talks about is not IMO rooted in any historical fact.
 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

According to the other Palin thread, she reminds him of his mother. Apparently he has "issues."
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I'm extremely excited about her, I think she will re energize the republican party more than McCain.

Do you want her to be a president, McCain is 72 years old, lets say something happens.. you want this school teacher to run the country?

Considering she has more experience than BO....you should be happy.

pffft... oh, ok.

get a brain, moran.

Oh, I'm wrong? Please show me moron.

palin:
- mayor of 6,500 people
- governor of a state with 665,000 people (not including polar bears or caribous)

obama:
- grew up mixed black
- first black president of the harvard law review
- senator of a state with 12.8 million people
- veterans' affairs committee member
- given speeches in various countries with millions in attendance


LOL... Your own list proves you wrong, if you're looking at executive leadership (which you should, since the President is leader of the Executive branch of the US Government).

And are you intending to say that if Obama had grown up white he suddenly would be imminently less experienced (and thus less qualified) to serve as President? Your list would indicate you believe so...
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Hard to see how this helps McCain's campaign. Maybe it motivates his base a bit, but his ticket is now 2 west coast conservatives against 2 east coast liberals. And Hillary supporters aren't going to jump to McCain just because he put a token woman on the ticket, that's not how women operate politically.

The location of her state hardly matters. It helps him by solidifying the conservative vote. She is a strong conservative woman and she will bring in the undecided or independent woman, the ones that were only voting for Hillary because they wanted to see a woman in the whitehouse. She also has executive experience, although short. She also helps a whole lot on the domestic issues front.

She is the cheese to McCain's cake.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: SlingXShot

While I am comparing, Obama is not going to be the one debating her. It is Biden with 15x more experience than her. So Biden VS this school teacher...

I know it hurts you to admit that even Palin has more executive experience and experience actually running something than Biden....but you don't have to go so far as saying she's going to school him yet.

you've gotta be joking... you CAN'T be serious and expect us to believe you know what the hell you're talking about...

Enlighten me how representing the state of Delaware and running a couple committees equals running an entire government.
 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Let me see if I have this right: the GOP is pinning its hopes on disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters?

What other reason to select Palin?

Uhhh, no... as has been pointed out several times in this thread, Palin does more than bring in a few dissapointed Hillary Clinton supporters.

She is quite conservative on numerous issues, which serves to rally a base that has been fairly tepid in its support for McCain. If she can help solidify the conservative wing of the Republican Party, Obama will be in a world of hurt as he is currently only getting 78% support from his party in polling and is currently losing the independent vote to McCain as well.

Yep.

Energy
Pro-Life
Successfully fought against corruption in Alaska in her short tenure as Gov (said no to "Bridge to Nowhere"). Couple this with McCain wanting to kill pork projects in Washington and this becomes a reform ticket.
Pro-Gun (NRA member who grew up hunting)
She is very likable and charismatic.
She is the only person on either ticket with actual executive experience even it is limited.

Originally posted by: Farang
I may need more time to process this since I just found out a minute ago, but first reaction is this may be the worst VP choice in recent memory. It completely undercuts his main argument (experience)

It does somewhat but no more than Obama picking Biden undercut many of Obama's arguments against McCain.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I'm extremely excited about her, I think she will re energize the republican party more than McCain.

Do you want her to be a president, McCain is 72 years old, lets say something happens.. you want this school teacher to run the country?

Considering she has more experience than BO....you should be happy.

pffft... oh, ok.

get a brain, moran.

Oh, I'm wrong? Please show me moron.

palin:
- mayor of 6,500 people
- governor of a state with 665,000 people (not including polar bears or caribous)

obama:
- grew up mixed black
- first black president of the harvard law review
- senator of a state with 12.8 million people
- veterans' affairs committee member
- given speeches in various countries with millions in attendance

Ah yes. Giving lots of speeches directly equates to experience!

Hell, we should vote a comedian to be the President, its their JOB to talk! :disgust:

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

Look I don't care who McCain could have picked, even if he picked a frog, I wouldn't care... what bothers me is that McCain has been bugging Obama about experience past 3 months! And now he picks someone with not much experience than Obama. What does this tell me? They are playing this gain vote game, no substance. Why you people are so ignorant and can't see what McCain camp is doing!

It comes to this, if someone happens to obama, biden will take over. If something happens to mccain, this cheerleader will take over, OKAY, can I get more clearer?

dude, we get it. shut up about it already. everyone sees it.
 
Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
I like it, VP doesn't need all the experience in the world because they are not president. I think this will win back some of the hillary supporters by nothing other than her being a woman. Same thing happened with Hillary and Obama.

She seems to have good morals and a up and coming strong Republican. Reminds me of a true conservative rather than a mindless Republican or Democrat.

And that's the key. McCain doesn't need Hillary's supports, he needs the conservative vote. So far, they've been lukewarm to him.

yeah, for the past couple of election and this one included I had to hold my nose to vote because the Dem on the other side was that bad. I never really liked Bush or McCain. I really like this pick in hopes that we can get someone like Palin to bring back the conservative politics into office. Maybe not for McCains term but after that possibly.

Keep dreaming if you think if you keep voting Republican for decades, that they'll eventually give you conservative leadership.
If it didn't happen with 8 years of Bush, who from the outset everyone would thought would be a great thing, it's not going to happen. Get over it and join the resistance.

You're not getting a conservative no matter how much you sell your country out down the river.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I'm extremely excited about her, I think she will re energize the republican party more than McCain.

Do you want her to be a president, McCain is 72 years old, lets say something happens.. you want this school teacher to run the country?

Considering she has more experience than BO....you should be happy.

pffft... oh, ok.

get a brain, moran.

Oh, I'm wrong? Please show me moron.

palin:
- mayor of 6,500 people
- governor of a state with 665,000 people (not including polar bears or caribous)

obama:
- grew up mixed black
- first black president of the harvard law review
- senator of a state with 12.8 million people
- veterans' affairs committee member
- given speeches in various countries with millions in attendance

Ah yes. Giving lots of speeches directly equates to experience!

Hell, we should vote a comedian to be the President, its their JOB to talk! :disgust:

:laugh:

Maybe he is one of those guys that has a "Rush Limbaugh For President" bumper sticker on his car.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

Look I don't care who McCain could have picked, even if he picked a frog, I wouldn't care... what bothers me is that McCain has been bugging Obama about experience past 3 months! And now he picks someone with not much experience than Obama. What does this tell me? They are playing this gain vote game, no substance. Why you people are so ignorant and can't see what McCain camp is doing!

It comes to this, if someone happens to obama, biden will take over. If something happens to mccain, this cheerleader will take over, OKAY, can I get more clearer?

dude, we get it. shut up about it already. everyone sees it.


Then why are you not agreeing with me ?
 
I don't think Biden undercut Obama as much because the whole appeal to Obama is that he is a one-of-a-kind type of figure, so if he dies we just have a steady hand on the wheel in Biden. McCain now, if he dies, we have someone with even less experience than Obama which McCain had been saying all along is foolish to do in a time of war etc.
 
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Speaking of which, is the Obama camp really that retarded? Saying that small town America doesn't matter?

Those damn hillbillies clinging to their guns and religion.
 
Originally posted by: tynopik
Originally posted by: Vic
Maybe it motivates his base a bit

a BIT?!?!

have you been watching conservative sites AT ALL?

they are going into throes of ecstasy . . .

They'd be going through 'throes of ecstasy' regardless of who had been picked. In fact, I would argue that, given the social collectivist 'ditto' mentality of modern conservatives, the magnitude of their 'ecstasy' is inversely proportional to the actual political wisdom behind the pick. The better to hide their dismay.
 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I'm extremely excited about her, I think she will re energize the republican party more than McCain.

Do you want her to be a president, McCain is 72 years old, lets say something happens.. you want this school teacher to run the country?

Considering she has more experience than BO....you should be happy.

pffft... oh, ok.

get a brain, moran.

Oh, I'm wrong? Please show me moron.

palin:
- mayor of 6,500 people
- governor of a state with 665,000 people (not including polar bears or caribous)

obama:
- grew up mixed black
- first black president of the harvard law review
- senator of a state with 12.8 million people
- veterans' affairs committee member
- given speeches in various countries with millions in attendance


LOL... Your own list proves you wrong, if you're looking at executive leadership (which you should, since the President is leader of the Executive branch of the US Government).

And are you intending to say that if Obama had grown up white he suddenly would be imminently less experienced (and thus less qualified) to serve as President? Your list would indicate you believe so...

no, it doesn't.

and of course i believe that. why wouldn't i? you seriously don't think that someone who's been a victim of racism his whole life from both blacks AND whites would have a less jaded perspective of reality? his judgment is, in my opinion, more valuable than mccain's in many, many places BECAUSE of the fact of how he was raised and been through.
 
Originally posted by: Farang
I don't think Biden undercut Obama as much because the whole appeal to Obama is that he is a one-of-a-kind type of figure, so if he dies we just have a steady hand on the wheel in Biden. McCain now, if he dies, we have someone with even less experience than Obama which McCain had been saying all along is foolish to do in a time of war etc.

I'd trust someone who was a mayor and then governor over someone who was a senator. I'm sorry, but a senator doesn't exactly gain much in the way of experience to lead a country. A city is just a small state, and a state is a mini-united states. She was very successfully running Alaska for 2 years, and that's 2 more years than both Obama and Biden (and even McCain) have running a mini-united states.
 
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I'm extremely excited about her, I think she will re energize the republican party more than McCain.

Do you want her to be a president, McCain is 72 years old, lets say something happens.. you want this school teacher to run the country?

Considering she has more experience than BO....you should be happy.

She was a mayor of 5,000 people and a governor for 20 months only. She is a governor of 670,000 people. NYC has 10x more than that, even mayors of NYC are 10x more qualified.

Obama has 8 years STATE senate experience and 3 years of US Senate.

- In addition this woman has only a bachelors degree and economics wasn't even her major.
- While Obama finished a great university and a law school.

What were his record accomplishments in those 3 years, 2 of which he was running for President?
 
Originally posted by: Farang
I don't think Biden undercut Obama as much because the whole appeal to Obama is that he is a one-of-a-kind type of figure, so if he dies we just have a steady hand on the wheel in Biden. McCain now, if he dies, we have someone with even less experience than Obama which McCain had been saying all along is foolish to do in a time of war etc.

Obama has been promoting "Change We Need" and then picked a status quo VP candidate whose been in the Senate longer than McCain whose heavy into pork and lobbyists (even his son is a lobbyist).

Palin is short on experience as well but she's at least had executive experience and has shown that she can stand up to and defeat corruption in the old boy network within her own party. State legislature and State Senator where Obama voted present != executive experience.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SlingXShot
Damn like I said, if that 72 year old McCain dies, you going to have a 44 year old school teacher/cheerleader running this country.

Hillary is 10x greater than this woman... Hillary can stump her into the ground so deep she won't be able to get out ever.

Hilarious. A woman who was able to run for Governor and win, and now enjoys an astronomically high job approval rating from her constituents (higher than Barack Obama's, or Bill Clinton's approval rating ever were)-- all without having to ride on her husband's coattails-- is being dismissed as a "school teacher/chearleader"?

Seriously, what is it with all of the misogynist Obama supporters today?

dude, when your population is that small, you've got a much higher probability of having a higher percentage of happier people than if you have a population of millions... it's easy math.

I have a PhD in mathematics. I used to teach introductory mathematics courses at college. And let me tell you: with that kind of math, you would have flunked out of any of my classes.

Please, go back to college (or high school) and take a math class. And while you are there, take a course in logic as well. I'm sure we all would appreciate it.
 
Originally posted by: eits

no, it doesn't.

and of course i believe that. why wouldn't i? you seriously don't think that someone who's been a victim of racism his whole life from both blacks AND whites would have a less jaded perspective of reality? his judgment is, in my opinion, more valuable than mccain's in many, many places BECAUSE of the fact of how he was raised and been through.

Yeah, he's had it rough. McCain is probably sitting at home at night wondering how he could have ever made it this far if he had to endure something bad.
 
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