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Sarah Palin to be McCain's VP!!
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miketheidiot
Lifer
i know how it works, i took 3 years of poly-sci, and i know enough to know that running a state is nothing like running a country regardless of any cosmetic similarities in theoretical structure. national politics and governance is an entirely different monster than the little state of Alaska.
Right... unfortunately 12th grade civics gives a basic idea how this country functions, and that's all you need to understand that states are mini-US's.
I was responding the miketheidiot saying it was nothing the same. I was stating how it was basically the same. Of course there are big differences and not quite so simple or black and white.
miketheidiot
Lifer
how many major pieces of legislation are authored and passed annually by junior senators, period? Mccain has been in the senate for what, 25 years? and can only point to a handful of accomplishments. What obama has done is mainly behind the scenes, alot more goes on in the political system than signing your name to a bill and voting on it.
ITS ONLY THE VICE PRESIDENT GUYS ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.[/quote]
Not for science curriculum, no it is not. Religion is not a litmus test for holding a public office. She has stated she was not in making changes and forcing it to be taught, she just sees no problem is students debating the issue.
It's a pretty middle of the road stance I think... doesn't sound at all like a radical.
Thanks God, then, that we never elected that governor of tiny little backwoods Arkansas as President back in 1992. That would've been a HUGE blunder! What were we even thinking? How could he possibly be prepared to be President after only having been a governor of a small southern State with a budget smaller than some urban cities?
Clearly from now on we should only consider Senators for President and Vice President-- even if they are just first-term Senators with no real legislative accomplishments, as that clearly trumps any executive leadership you might get merely being the governmor of some state.
miketheidiot
Lifer
btw i took government in 11th grade does that make me a worse person?
It speaks to her judgement, character and intelligence. People who hold dumb views on ANY issues, even if those issues aren't within their power to influence, worry the crap out of me because people aren't dumb about only one issue. Maybe the VP has no power to influence science curriculum, but someone who supports creationism is not, in my opinion, someone who's opinion I'd trust on a whole host of issues that fall under the VP job description.
seemingly random
Diamond Member
I don't see why everyone's disturbed about palin's little abuse of power scandal. I imagine this will be viewed as a test of power usage by the republican machine. She would be a comfortable fit in dc where the white house saw fit to fire some of the nation's attorneys general. And her supposed lack of a world view shouldn't be detrimental either. Remember, bush didn't know where some countries and cities in the world are located before he got into office and that didn't slow him down a bit.
Keep telling yourself these things but we know you're lying. The VP is the tie-breaker in the Senate. More importantly, the VP can have heavy influence on the President. Looking at McCain, the VP will most likely become President and then there will be hell with having a creationist queen as President. Unacceptable.
obama did more that vote present. She's been governor of a mostly empty state for 18 months and ran a tiny town for a few years. gj[/quote]
Obama was a community organizer and was a senator for 2 years, most of which he spent campaigning for president. He voted "present" on many tough issues, showing his sound judgment.
I think I'm done talking about why being a governor is like being president of a smaller US. Your main problem is that Palin is on the bottom of the ticket and Obama is on the top. Your argument that is McCain dies Palin is there all alone is a dishonest one. Palin will then appoint a VP that fills the places she lacks.
You act like its not important... but if McCain were unable to 'lead', it would change. Not to mention McCain has the same stance so I'm not sure what your getting at.
As the the attacks on this women being attacked by Obama as possibly being sexist. Hopefully Hillary will fire back with her own ads (supported of course by Obama's campaign).
Hillary did not mean to put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling so that a pro-life, pro-gun, home-schooling nobody from frozen hills of Alaska could just come in and take it. This is going to get nasty, fast.
Not for science curriculum, no it is not. Religion is not a litmus test for holding a public office. She has stated she was not in making changes and forcing it to be taught, she just sees no problem is students debating the issue.
It's a pretty middle of the road stance I think... doesn't sound at all like a radical.[/quote]
No offense, but that's like the covert language of the religious nutjobs. Anyone talking about "teaching the debate" or similar language is trying to appear "middle of the road" while pushing a radical agenda. Religion should not be a litmus test for public office, pushing your religion on other people should be.
miketheidiot
Lifer
Not for science curriculum, no it is not. Religion is not a litmus test for holding a public office. She has stated she was not in making changes and forcing it to be taught, she just sees no problem is students debating the issue.
It's a pretty middle of the road stance I think... doesn't sound at all like a radical.[/quote]
no, this is not an issue of policy, its an issue of reason, morality and sanity. Religion has no business being taught or discussed in a science classroom. The idea that the vice-presidental candidate would suggest it as being legitimate is certainly a cause for concern.
Thank you for making my unstated point-- which is being a Senator, while a very prestigious job, does not automatically render one emininently qualifed to be Chief Executive of anything, much less the nation.
The fact that Obama came into the Senate as an agent of "change", yet proposed no major legislation to enact that change strikes me as a little disurbing. I am equally disquieted by John McCain's more established record-- he has actually stuck his neck out and made major proposals that have become law. Unfortunately, I happen to disagree with quite a few of them...
What foriegn policyexperience did clinton have?
miketheidiot
Lifer
he was governor for 8? years vs 18 months for her. how does one gain enough experience in 18 month as governor of a small state with no prior qualification when you don't gain it after 15 years studying, practicing, teaching and executing law and spend a decade in local and major national office. seriously wtf is the problem here.
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