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Santorum: 'abortion culture' to blame for Social Security's problems

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Since 1983, everyone (including boomers) have been contributing to their own SS benefits.. so no, SS isn't quite the pyramid scheme it's made out to be... but it's still a system in need of either major reform or a rapid phase-out.

The notion, though, that abortions are to blame for its woes is a complete farce.
 
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And? When will that be? Sometime after 2035?

The point is that it will be sometime.

That is 40% more to help pay. What are you talking about? That would increase the ratio of payers to collectors by nearly .5

That would definately help.

Help? Maybe... "definitely", or "significantly"? Doubtful. It assumes that economic activity will be proportionally higher.. which is not a reasonable assumption.
 
What a moron! A great many of the aborted fetuses were going to grow up in poor families, which means that the government would have ended up spending gazillions of dollars on welfare, education, health care, and later potential criminal justice costs for them. Many would grow up to be working poor. In the meantime a larger population would impose population growth-related costs such as a greater demand for natural resources and thus higher prices for them.

I'd love to see someone publicly confront the these Republican and Tea Bagger morons with that fact and engage them in a debate. "Abortion saves the government money!"
 
That does not fit the conservative idea that all children whether poor or not should be born, if there are too many unemployed we can always start a war and abort them "properly". Dying for the rich in front a rifle like the poor should be doing.
 
Are you assuming the economy wouldnt grow from these 40 million consumers?

Do you see any evidence of economic growth for the 310 million people we have today? Do you see much economic growth amongst people born into poverty? Have you visited a large inner city lately? How will increasing demands (and thus prices) for limited natural resources allow for growth to occur?

Remember, these 40 million consumers will not be born into secure middle class families with two parents. More often then not they'll be born to poor single mothers who often live in the 'hood. How's that working out for the people in Detroit and other ghettos?
 
Nah don't worry about it. Ridiculously high population density is why the average family in Tokyo can afford a 2 bedroom house with a garage/driveway ^_^
 
Women don't feel economically secure enough to have children, so they get abortions.
If you want to encourage women to have more babies, need to expand the social safety net.
 
Well what he is saying does have some merit. If we didnt have as easy access to abortion as we have. There would be close to 40 million more people to help pay into the system.

That said I wouldnt run on that platform 😉

That's what the 40 million illegals are for.
 
How about give amnesty to illegals and make them pay SS, but deny them benefits when they get old? BOOM insta 30 million payers to SS
 
Remove SS from the general fund and make it untouchable for anything but payout of benifits then implement a temporary tax for 10yrs(or however long it takes) to repay the funds borrowed. Then set means testing level and increased retirement age to balance the fund going forward.

Problem solved.

This isn't rocket science, the numbers are straightforward, the problem is our elected officials have become dependent on borrowing/robbing from future retirees to fund their excessive current spending habits. Unfortunately no politicians up to now have had the guts to call an end to the party and tear up Uncle Sams credit card. If the politico's had their way they would just cease to make benifit payments and keep collecting payroll taxes
 
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40 million more contributors are also 40 million more recipients.. so no, it wouldn't have really helped at all.
Populations in the absence of active constraints (e.g. lack of food) or consumption (e.g. predators or something that rhymes with shmashmortion) grows at a rate proportional to the current population. Anyone who has ever seen a differential equation can tell you that the overall population is then an exponential function of time. In humans, the doubling time constant is about 40 years - not coincidentally, very similar to the length of a woman's fertility. Thus, since we are not lacking food in the US and we are generally not being eaten by wolves, there would naturally always be twice as many people in each subsequent generation. Look at the US census data and you'll see that this is true with a few notable exceptions: WW I, WW II, and now post-Roe v Wade. A quick plot of the census data pre-1910 (before WW I) yields an exponential coefficient of 0.026, while from 1960 onward, it is 0.010. These correspond to time constants of 38 years and 100 years, respectively. Thus, the number of people paying in to SS per recipient is decreasing at a dramatic rate as the population ages, fewer people enter the workforce, and more people retire. It's just math.
 
Populations in the absence of active constraints (e.g. lack of food) or consumption (e.g. predators or something that rhymes with shmashmortion) grows at a rate proportional to the current population. Anyone who has ever seen a differential equation can tell you that the overall population is then an exponential function of time. In humans, the doubling time constant is about 40 years - not coincidentally, very similar to the length of a woman's fertility. Thus, since we are not lacking food in the US and we are generally not being eaten by wolves, there would naturally always be twice as many people in each subsequent generation. Look at the US census data and you'll see that this is true with a few notable exceptions: WW I, WW II, and now post-Roe v Wade. A quick plot of the census data pre-1910 (before WW I) yields an exponential coefficient of 0.026, while from 1960 onward, it is 0.010. These correspond to time constants of 38 years and 100 years, respectively. Thus, the number of people paying in to SS per recipient is decreasing at a dramatic rate as the population ages, fewer people enter the workforce, and more people retire. It's just math.

Your point, as it relates to the post of mine that you quoted?
 
Every sperm is sacred.

Thank you.
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Wait, we're really bitching about not having enough people on this planet? And if there were that extra 40 million people, I'm sure santorum would be bitching about how they're feeding off the system.
The guy is a used douche.
 
Are you assuming the economy wouldnt grow from these 40 million consumers?

oh it'd be larger, but the total funding wouldn't be as good as the .5 extra earners per retiree you calculated earlier.



Since 1983, everyone (including boomers) have been contributing to their own SS benefits.. so no, SS isn't quite the pyramid scheme it's made out to be... but it's still a system in need of either major reform or a rapid phase-out.
that ss 'account' is a number on a .gov computer that says that the .gov owes you that money some time in the future, but the only way it's going to be possible for the .gov to pay that is a massive increase in tax income.
 
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