Sandy Hook victims' families file lawsuit against gun maker

[MrPickins]

Every manufacturer would be responsible for the damage it could potentially cause.

It's not taking responsibility away from the perps, but it is helping grant restitution to those who are harmed. Perps would still do the time, but monetary restitution is almost impossible unless you make the manufacturers of instruments that can be used to do harm at least monetarily responsible.

So you want all consumers to pay restitution for crazy individuals' actions?

 

[Smoblikat]

Every manufacturer would be responsible for the damage it could potentially cause.

It's not taking responsibility away from the perps, but it is helping grant restitution to those who are harmed. Perps would still do the time, but monetary restitution is almost impossible unless you make the manufacturers of instruments that can be used to do harm at least monetarily responsible.

Why do they deserve restitution from the manufacturer. What part did the manufacturer play in the crimes committed?

 

[FerrelGeek]

Words fail me at just how completely stupid that is. It is simply not their EFFING fault that they're hammer is used for killing someone!!!! PERIOD!!! Though the death of someone is tragic, the manufacturer of said hammer owes no one an EFFING penny in such a situation. Forcing a company to pay in a situation like this is nothing more than glorified theft.

Every manufacturer would be responsible for the damage it could potentially cause.

It's not taking responsibility away from the perps, but it is helping grant restitution to those who are harmed. Perps would still do the time, but monetary restitution is almost impossible unless you make the manufacturers of instruments that can be used to do harm at least monetarily responsible.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Might want to tell bushmaster that. Go to their site and they talk about how its "intimidating looks", light weight, and ability "hunting varmints to stalking big game" is what its made for.

So its a intimidating looking gun that can kill small to large living things easily seems to be what's its made for.

so it looks cool, is light weight, and is good for both small and large game. where is the problem, exactly?

 

[kage69]

the AR15 is the civilian (semi-auto) version of the M16 (select-fire) military rifle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15

Please re-read what it was I was addressing: your reply and link makes me think that you have followed that Irish guy's lead in thinking my comment about the rifle's genesis really pertains to something else.

on top of this fact, the AR15 is the most popular rifle in america by far. Thus, giving the ruling in Heller vs. DC, I don't see how you could specifically ban it, or failing that, ban semi-auto rifles as a class.

I don't see how or why you think this relates to anything I've posted in the thread, was this meant for someone else?

Also, any semi-auto pistol will do just as much damage (if not more) to unarmed civilians than an AR15, so the choice of firearm is practically irrelevant.

Sure man, get it all off your chest. Not sure why you think this applies to me, but whatever.

The event was tragic, and I'm guessing the lawyers are taking advantage of the family's grief to get them some money.

Quite possible, yep.

 

[kage69]

Well tough. I don't remember asking you or needing your approval.

You misunderstand; my comment was meant to clue you in regarding the irrelevant nature of your reply. I think we can both agree my approval is not a prerequisite for you displaying your difficulties with comprehension. Believe it or not, I don't find your love of straw tough to handle at all. That embarrassment is all on you. It just would be nice to hear people who are so sure of themselves actually address the statements they disagree with, instead of acting like indignant brats trying to blame their ignorance on others.

Your statement is in fact untrue and generally misleading. They don't use AR-15s which is not a military weapon.

Ok, first grapple with the task of addressing the correct issue, THEN you get to claim your opinion on it being correct or not, savvy?
Please though, indulge me: quote the statement of mine which you consider "untrue and generally misleading" regarding the post I replied to. Let's see if you have the ability to admit no one asked what is used by current day base guards. Maybe read the thread again from the beginning? Go ahead. I'll wait.

 

[schmuckley]

..because lawsuits are what's right with America today..

 

[Angry Irishman]

You misunderstand; my comment was meant to clue you in regarding the irrelevant nature of your reply. I think we can both agree my approval is not a prerequisite for you displaying your difficulties with comprehension. Believe it or not, I don't find your love of straw tough to handle at all. That embarrassment is all on you. It just would be nice to hear people who are so sure of themselves actually address the statements they disagree with, instead of acting like indignant brats trying to blame their ignorance on others.

Ok, first grapple with the task of addressing the correct issue, THEN you get to claim your opinion on it being correct or not, savvy?
Please though, indulge me: quote the statement of mine which you consider "untrue and generally misleading" regarding the post I replied to. Let's see if you have the ability to admit no one asked what is used by current day base guards. Maybe read the thread again from the beginning? Go ahead. I'll wait.

Originally Posted by Kadarin
I wonder if they realize the AR15 wasn't made for military use?

Your response:
"Guarding Air Force bases and serving as aircrew survival weapons isn't military use?"

I didn't misunderstand your snarky comment at all.

You stated something that isn't true and in fact is misleading and became pissed that I dared to disagree.

I simply corrected the statement you made, not as apolitically motivated response and is indeed factual. Sorry this doesn't adhere to your obvious agenda though....so sorry you have to grapple with that.

 

[kage69]

Originally Posted by Kadarin
I wonder if they realize the AR15 wasn't made for military use?

Your response:
"Guarding Air Force bases and serving as aircrew survival weapons isn't military use?"

I didn't misunderstand your snarky comment at all.

You stated something that isn't true and in fact is misleading and became pissed that I dared to disagree.

I simply corrected the statement you made, not as apolitically motivated response and is indeed factual. Sorry this doesn't adhere to your obvious agenda though....so sorry you have to grapple with that.

I asked him a question. Are you not familiar with interrogative tense? You do know there's a difference between a question and an assertion, yes?

I like how me pointing out the irrelevant nature of your reply suddenly means that not only am I somehow pissed at you (lol), but your "correction" interferes with some agenda of mine? I like how you frame your confused take on what I posted as "factual," as if someone bothered to take the time to dispute your strawman on it's own merits.

Hey, but we agree: you clearly don't understand. No argument there!

 

[Knowing]

There is one tragically predictable civilian activity in which the AR-15 reigns supreme

Ooh, ooh, ooh, let me guess! Is it hunting? It's hunting, right?

 

[Sir Thumpsalot]

Every manufacturer would be responsible for the damage it could potentially cause.

It's not taking responsibility away from the perps, but it is helping grant restitution to those who are harmed. Perps would still do the time, but monetary restitution is almost impossible unless you make the manufacturers of instruments that can be used to do harm at least monetarily responsible.

I want every car manufacturer to be responsible for every person that gets killed due to the actions of an alcohol or drug impaired driver.

It's not taking responsibility away from the drivers, but it is helping grant restitution to those who are harmed. Drivers would still do the time, but monetary restitution is almost impossible unless you make the manufacturers of cars that can be used to do harm at least monetarily responsible.


Now do you see how stupid you sound?

 

[Angry Irishman]

I asked him a question. Are you not familiar with interrogative tense? You do know there's a difference between a question and an assertion, yes?

I like how me pointing out the irrelevant nature of your reply suddenly means that not only am I somehow pissed at you (lol), but your "correction" interferes with some agenda of mine? I like how you frame your confused take on what I posted as "factual," as if someone bothered to take the time to dispute your strawman on it's own merits.

Hey, but we agree: you clearly don't understand. No argument there!

Your sentence structure sucks and my response answered your question anyway. Stop being snarky and .......Merry Christmas.

 

[xj0hnx]

OMG, too much stupid here, must flee

 

[xj0hnx]

Guns like the ones used as Sandy Hook fire countless bullets per second, with each bullet being a potential kill. Why is this necessary? It isn't, and shouldn't be allowed.

You are so fucking stupid, how do you make it through an average day without accidentally killing yourself?

 

[kage69]

Ooh, ooh, ooh, let me guess! Is it hunting? It's hunting, right?

Good pic, but c'mon, I don't think anyone considers 5.56/.223 (or 7.62x39 given there are AKs in that pic) "supreme" for hunting deer. Fine looking specimen there on the right with the 8 points though...


I wonder if he's as equally fearful about all of the other tools used in all of the other civilian created tragedies. Guns are tools. People are weapons.


Has this stupid lawsuit been thrown out yet?

 

[kage69]

Guns like the ones used as Sandy Hook fire countless bullets per second, with each bullet being a potential kill. Why is this necessary? It isn't, and shouldn't be allowed.

Hilariously stupid. Newsflash: your fear of ammo capacity does not convey the right to determine what is necessary for anyone (other than yourself.)


Also, 800 / 60 = about 13 rounds per second (full auto, which AR-15s don't have) and mags generally hold 30 rounds when fully loaded. You're welcome, you drama queen you.

 

[WackyDan]

Good pic, but c'mon, I don't think anyone considers 5.56/.223 (or 7.62x39 given there are AKs in that pic) "supreme" for hunting deer. Fine looking specimen there on the right with the 8 points though...


I wonder if he's as equally fearful about all of the other tools used in all of the other civilian created tragedies. Guns are tools. People are weapons.


Has this stupid lawsuit been thrown out yet?

You can readily get an AR configured in the new 6.8, or in 7.62 or even .50 if you desire. Shit, you can even swap out a 5.56/223 upper with a 7.62 upper if you want. * That is what makes the AR-15 in part - very popular.

 

[Zodiark1593]

I want every car manufacturer to be responsible for every person that gets killed due to the actions of an alcohol or drug impaired driver.

It's not taking responsibility away from the drivers, but it is helping grant restitution to those who are harmed. Drivers would still do the time, but monetary restitution is almost impossible unless you make the manufacturers of cars that can be used to do harm at least monetarily responsible.


Now do you see how stupid you sound?

Demanding restitution is equivelant to punishment. What you are saying is punishing the manufacturer for the actions of the buyer which I apparently need to remind you, is out of the control of the manufacturer.

 

[Mai72]

Ooh, ooh, ooh, let me guess! Is it hunting? It's hunting, right?

I love how pro gun nuts state "We need our weapons to fight the US government if things go bad!"

Like we would even stand a chance. Let's see...

The US government has drones, tanks, military grade weapons, troops, etc...

Try stopping the US army with a M15 or an Ak47.

 

[WackyDan]

I love how pro gun nuts state "We need our weapons to fight the US government if things go bad!"

Like we would even stand a chance. Let's see...

The US government has drones, tanks, military grade weapons, troops, etc...

Try stopping the US army with a M15 or an Ak47.

Explain that to the US Military who fault a war of attrition against insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan and never won... But just left.

Tanks and aircraft don't matter as we've seen in egypt, Libya, Syria, etc.

 

[bshole]

Explain that to the US Military who fault a war of attrition against insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan and never won... But just left.

Tanks and aircraft don't matter as we've seen in egypt, Libya, Syria, etc.

Looks like Wacky is locked and loaded and ready to go toe-to-toe with Uncle Sam. What a true American patriot.....

 

[shortylickens]

A gun has a single purpose to cause devastation.

If a single gun can cause devastation why did we send over thousands of troops and hundreds of jets & tanks?

 

[BurnItDwn]

All I know is, the next time my power goes out, im suing the electrical company. Or the next time I get stuck in an elevator, im suing the elevator company.

If an electrical shock kills you, or if you die in an elevator, you might have a chance ....