Sandy Hook just wont rest.

[shortylickens]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-accused-death-threat-sandy-hook-parent-pleads/story?id=44285121

It seems people of an insane disposition are making life hard for victims and families. But at least she'll spend Christmas in jail.

 

[Dari]

Some of these people believe it was all just a conspiracy. Instead of jail time, they just need one of these parents to visit them then they'll understand the pain and suffering the families are going through, only to be exacerbated by their actions.

 

[Linux23]

Jesus Christ really? A conspiracy theory???

 

[Annisman*]

The sick ones are the peopl3 making up the theories, there will always be sheep to believe ridiculous things.

 

[Mike64]

Some of these people believe it was all just a conspiracy. Instead of jail time, they just need one of these parents to visit them then they'll understand the pain and suffering the families are going through, only to be exacerbated by their actions.

No. The parents don't deserve the extra helping of hell of having to deal with these psychopaths. The latter need court-ordered psych evals, possibly medication, jail time, and in most cases, probably long periods of supervision after release (i.e., parole) - in no particular order. The parents, on the other hand, need restraining orders and proper enforcement of them.

 

[Dari]

No. The parents don't deserve the extra helping of hell of having to deal with these psychopaths. The latter need court-ordered psych evals, possibly medication, jail time, and in most cases, probably long periods of supervision after release (i.e., parole) - in no particular order. The parents, on the other hand, need restraining orders and proper enforcement of them.

Tragedies have a habit of giving people a purpose...

 

[dank69]

The worst human beings. If you are going to accuse a person of lying about losing a child you better have some pretty solid evidence. I'm all for free speech and these shitheads should still be protected but seriously, I wouldn't shed a tear if they received a court ordered designated slapper to follow them around and slap the shit out of them every time they start up with this shit.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Some of these people believe it was all just a conspiracy. Instead of jail time, they just need one of these parents to visit them then they'll understand the pain and suffering the families are going through, only to be exacerbated by their actions.

I'd wager that those are the very same people who contribute to Inforwars to keep the message going and believe that Before It's News is a legitimate source of news. Next they'll proclaim that the movie Arrival is really a true story documentary and that the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man is a defender of their freedoms. Same goes for the Boston Marathon bombing where conspiracy theories abounded about a government plot with scary boogie men staged all around the place Sandy Hook was a NRA wake up call that gun owners resist as they refuse to accept responsibility for an assault rifle owner who didn't have their rifle secured allowing a deranged teenager to access and use it against innocent people. I wonder how long it will take Trump to hinder the White House Press Corps once he takes office?

 

[shortylickens]

Jesus Christ really? A conspiracy theory???

Despite the fact we have loads of photos and videos, yes, there are people who think its a massive conspiracy. And the lady in the news is so awful she actually harassed the parents over it. Which of course serves only to reopen old wounds and distract America from more pressing issues.

 

[MrSquished]

Alex Jones Right-Wingers call to arms

 

[GagHalfrunt]

There's no shortage of bat-shit crazy in this country.

 

[theeedude]

Trump Trash?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Do you think that Trump will invite Alex Jones to the White House?

 

[Commodus]

To me, this is the extreme form of the "post-truth" (I don't like using the term, but it's apt) society we find ourselves in circa 2016. Not the norm, thankfully, but uncomfortably close.

The observable facts don't matter -- it's just whether or not you feel they should be true. If you're an obsessive gun owner (note: most aren't like this), it might be easier to imagine that Sandy Hook was a hoax meant to justify anti-gun legislation than to accept that two dozen kids were murdered.

 

[Dari]

To me, this is the extreme form of the "post-truth" (I don't like using the term, but it's apt) society we find ourselves in circa 2016. Not the norm, thankfully, but uncomfortably close.

The observable facts don't matter -- it's just whether or not you feel they should be true. If you're an obsessive gun owner (note: most aren't like this), it might be easier to imagine that Sandy Hook was a hoax meant to justify anti-gun legislation than to accept that two dozen kids were murdered.

Or maybe they're true followers of Solipsism...

 

[Puffnstuff]

The worst part about Sandy Hook is that if the mother had secured the rifle the son wouldn't of had access to it to commit the crime in the first place. The fact that he was deranged enough to murder his mother in the first place speaks volumes about irresponsible gun owners which I will rail against all day long. I always kept my guns in a locked safe to prevent theft or unauthorized access.

 

[interchange]

There are some bizarre news stories out there, and I have the usual compulsion to vilify these individuals as if they had some rational control over their wrongdoing.

And, as a psychiatrist, I could not diagnose someone that I have never examined, nor would it be appropriate to offer conjecture. But I also have a compulsion to do so.

I can't always resist these compulsions, but I think it is for the best when I do.

 

[Puffnstuff]

It comes down to foreseeable liability, duty of care and proximate cause under the doctrine of strict liability. I did a case study on Sandy Hook and started it biased against parties who were using it as leverage for more gun control. When I was finished with it I had to reevaluate my own position on gun ownership and storage which this case bore a strong influence upon. I now feel as though there should be laws against allowing minors access to gun storage devices such as a safe to prohibit their access and subsequent use of them to commit an act of violence as their cognitive reasoning abilities are not developed enough to consider all of the obligations involved with the use of a firearm.

 

[momeNt]

It comes down to foreseeable liability, duty of care and proximate cause under the doctrine of strict liability. I did a case study on Sandy Hook and started it biased against parties who were using it as leverage for more gun control. When I was finished with it I had to reevaluate my own position on gun ownership and storage which this case bore a strong influence upon. I now feel as though there should be laws against allowing minors access to gun storage devices such as a safe to prohibit their access and subsequent use of them to commit an act of violence as their cognitive reasoning abilities are not developed enough to consider all of the obligations involved with the use of a firearm.

He wasn't a minor. What do you mean by case study, and how did you miss that fact?

 

[Puffnstuff]

He wasn't a minor. What do you mean by case study, and how did you miss that fact?

I said it influenced my opinion on gun laws or did you not read what I said keeping it in context?

 

[momeNt]

I said it influenced my opinion on gun laws or did you not read what I said keeping it in context?

I would say that just about any child accidental shooting could have done that for you and not Sandy Hook if that was the case. So, I really don't understand how Sandy Hook led you to that conclusion to be honest.

 

[FIVR]

Because if one child dies, or if 10,000 died... it's all the same. A child still died. Might as well let them all die.

 

[Roflmouth]

To me, this is the extreme form of the "post-truth" (I don't like using the term, but it's apt) society we find ourselves in circa 2016. Not the norm, thankfully, but uncomfortably close.

The observable facts don't matter -- it's just whether or not you feel they should be true.

Like the fact that the second amendment confers upon the citizenry the right to own guns, despite the feelings of deranged authoritarian leftist assholes that those rights should be stripped.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I find any person who doesn't support the securing of firearms in the presence of children disturbingly irresponsible. I support amending the 2nd Amendment to require gun owners to restrict access to their weapons to prevent unnecessary gun violence in much the same manner that the 21st Amendment nullified the 18th.

I'd go even further and say that all magazines in excess of 20 rounds should be required to have a serial number with a chain of custody that must be reported to the ATF upon sale of said magazine with fines if an owner fails to comply. All personal sales or transfers of guns should have to be reported to the ATF so they can keep track of the new owners. I love guns myself but too many of them are falling into the hands of criminals and we have to close up the loopholes that allow for access them.

 

[Dari]

I find any person who doesn't support the securing of firearms in the presence of children disturbingly irresponsible. I support amending the 2nd Amendment to require gun owners to restrict access to their weapons to prevent unnecessary gun violence in much the same manner that the 21st Amendment nullified the 18th.

I'd go even further and say that all magazines in excess of 20 rounds should be required to have a serial number with a chain of custody that must be reported to the ATF upon sale of said magazine with fines if an owner fails to comply. All personal sales or transfers of guns should have to be reported to the ATF so they can keep track of the new owners. I love guns myself but too many of them are falling into the hands of criminals and we have to close up the loopholes that allow for access them.

Why stop at children? Humans between the ages of 14 and 23 are at their most dangerous. Why? It probably has something to do with the fact that they're also starting to have sex. Mother nature is cooking up a mix of various hormones at that age and it can be combustible. Sex and violence go hand in hand in nature, and we're not exempt.