Sandy Bridge VS The World

[Copenhagen69]

a great read I found over here with TONS of tests of clock v clock and tri-sli and different motherboards ...

definitely worth looking at to help make your decision easier ...2600k here i come

Source: HERE :thumbsup:

 

[RussianSensation]

"Again, Mafia II and Lost Planet 2 are the only benchmarks that show solid CPU scaling in the minimum FPS testing. But when we get to the average FPS testing, the only game showing any real advantage is Mafia II."

Basically for anyone outside of those using triple GTX570/580s (or similar CF setup) looking to squeeze last 5-10 frames, upgrading to SB from Lynnfield or Bloomfield for gaming only doesn't seem worthwhile.

Thanks for the link!

 

[Lonbjerg]

"Again, Mafia II and Lost Planet 2 are the only benchmarks that show solid CPU scaling in the minimum FPS testing. But when we get to the average FPS testing, the only game showing any real advantage is Mafia II."

Basically for anyone outside of those using triple GTX570/580s (or similar CF setup) looking to squeeze last 5-10 frames, upgrading to SB from Lynnfield or Bloomfield for gaming only doesn't seem worthwhile.

Thanks for the link!

Just shows you should stop pushing SuperPi and other useless synthetic benchmarks of SandyBrigde and use it as advice that socket 1336 owner should upgrade.

I am waiting for socket 2011, I don't need a midrage SB.

 

[Copenhagen69]

ya 2011 socket should be greatness!

in the meantime i think I will play with SB to see what it can do

 

[RussianSensation]

Just shows you should stop pushing SuperPi and other useless synthetic benchmarks of SandyBrigde and use it as advice that socket 1336 owner should upgrade.

I never advised S1366 owners to upgrade to SB for gaming only.

- 130W power consumption reduction at load, 60-70W at idle
- huge gains in video encoding/rendering, distributed computing, photoshop, file compression/decompression/archiving
- huge gains in multi-tasking and media: Core i7 2600k ($317) > Core i7 950 @ 4.3ghz OR Core i7 980X ($1000 CPU):
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/9

Also, socket 1366 mobos were far more expensive. So it's not unrealistic to sell S1366 setup and get a 2600k with minimal cash outlay.

Obviously if all you do is game, of course I wouldn't advise someone with a 920 @ 4.0ghz to upgrade to SB. It is actually outside of gaming where a 4.6ghz SB will beat a 4.0ghz S1366 processor:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_6.html#sect2

I am waiting for socket 2011, I don't need a midrage SB.

Sandy Bridge will only be "mid-range" when LGA2011 arrives. A 4.6ghz Core 2600k = at least a 5.1ghz Core i7 920.

That's not mid-range.

 

[Copenhagen69]

lol I think he meant mid-range as in Intel does not classify it as the high performance line of chips ...

 

[RussianSensation]

lol I think he meant mid-range as in Intel does not classify it as the high performance line of chips ...

I guess some people need to "own the best". I guess that's why NV charges $500 for a GTX580 that's barely faster than a 797mhz $370 GTX570.

Socket 1366 was high-end indeed (i.e, huge profit margins for Intel). While you could get a $120 mobo on S1156, you had to spend $200+ on X58 mobo, and an extra $40-50 on triple-channel ram. Most 920s settled in at 4.0ghz-4.2ghz, hardly any better over i7 860s, despite a massive price premium. I sure hope LGA2011 is actually high-end for something other than the name this time (i.e., $400 6-core SB processors).

 

[nyker96]

I think for socket 1366 owner, SB doesn't really constitute too much performance gain to warrant an upgrade, Ivy particularly the 6/8/higher core count might be much more of an upgrade for these folks. I'd even think owner of 1156 probably isn't going to gain a whole lot more from a jump to 1155. I personally think SB effect people who are buying new the most, with SB, 1156/1366 shouldn't even be considered with the exception of 980X which still pulls its weight in threaded apps. There's no replacement on 980X yet yet, maybe 8core BD later this year?

 

[Copenhagen69]

i am hoping BD is huge ... i wanna go back to AMD but they have just not had the performance I need

 

[exar333]

I guess some people need to "own the best". I guess that's why NV charges $500 for a GTX580 that's barely faster than a 797mhz $370 GTX570.

Socket 1366 was high-end indeed (i.e, huge profit margins for Intel). While you could get a $120 mobo on S1156, you had to spend $200+ on X58 mobo, and an extra $40-50 on triple-channel ram. Most 920s settled in at 4.0ghz-4.2ghz, hardly any better over i7 860s, despite a massive price premium. I sure hope LGA2011 is actually high-end for something other than the name this time (i.e., $400 6-core SB processors).

I spent about $150 more on my 1366 setuo vs. 1156; that's not a "massive price premium". Also,I was able to purchase my i7 in 2008, 1156 didn't even exist then. Finally, no one is forced to buy triple-channel RAM. Lot's of FUD here.

 

[Copenhagen69]

trip-channel memory rules

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Socket 1366 was high-end indeed (i.e, huge profit margins for Intel). While you could get a $120 mobo on S1156, you had to spend $200+ on X58 mobo, and an extra $40-50 on triple-channel ram. Most 920s settled in at 4.0ghz-4.2ghz, hardly any better over i7 860s, despite a massive price premium. I sure hope LGA2011 is actually high-end for something other than the name this time (i.e., $400 6-core SB processors).

To be fair, I built both my S1366 systems early 2009. $140AR for a Gigabyte EX58-UD3R, ~$45AR for 2x3GB DDR3-1600 1.65V and $199 for a D0 920 is not frightfully expensive.
In anticipation of S2011, I increased my RAM to 2x4GB (still full tripple channel bandwidth measured - no degradation), although it looks like the 1.65V requirement will probably put a downer on using it with the SB's IMC.

 

[Castiel]

trip-channel memory rules

So does dual channel

 

[RussianSensation]

I spent about $150 more on my 1366 setuo vs. 1156; that's not a "massive price premium". Also,I was able to purchase my i7 in 2008, 1156 didn't even exist then. Finally, no one is forced to buy triple-channel RAM. Lot's of FUD here.

You got in at the best time for S1366. You had an uber fast rig for a long time. Once 1156 launched, I was up for an upgrade and I couldn't justify spending $150 more on an S1366 setup that gets nearly identical performance. Even until this day, I can't understand the purpose for Socket 1366 besides needing >16 Gigs of Ram, running triple-SLI/CF or 6-core support.

My point is LGA2011 should have something interesting to offer like 6-8 core processors at decent prices, perhaps 4 native SATA 3.0 ports standard, etc. This time Intel should really differentiate its high-end platform. If they launch LGA2011 and the cheapest 6 core is $799, then that's not a really an enthusiast platform, but a luxury platform. An enthusiast was never someone who could buy a $800-1000 CPU, but one who could overclock a $200 CPU to the speed of a $1000 one I guess that's my old school thinking, and I don't claim to be right here or trying to impose my view. I am just hoping for LGA2011 to bring 6-cores to reasonable price levels.

 

[Castiel]

I see socket 2011 K quad's starting off at 399.99

 

[Athadeus]

I see socket 2011 K quad's starting off at 399.99

I seriously doubt that unless Ivy Bridge offers very compelling features.

 

[RussianSensation]

I see socket 2011 K quad's starting off at 399.99

Let's hope Bulldozer is competitive so Intel can't pull nonsense like that.

 

[Castiel]

Let's hope Bulldozer is competitive so Intel can't pull nonsense like that.

I see no point pricing 2011 close to 1155. I think a 32nm quad K at 399.99 would be a steal. Add a 6 core for 699.99 and an 8 core at 999.99. I in no way shape or form think the 8 cores are going to be cheap.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Just shows you should stop pushing SuperPi and other useless synthetic benchmarks of SandyBrigde and use it as advice that socket 1336 owner should upgrade.

I am waiting for socket 2011, I don't need a midrage SB.

I generally agree with this. It's a perfect upgrade for me, but 1366 owners should generally stand pat. And OC what they have! It also of course depends on what you're doing.

 

[Copenhagen69]

I see no point pricing 2011 close to 1155. I think a 32nm quad K at 399.99 would be a steal. Add a 6 core for 699.99 and an 8 core at 999.99. I in no way shape or form think the 8 cores are going to be cheap.

so will their 8 cores have HT with 8 more cores making 16? or just straight 8 core?