Sandy Bridge Reviews

[ydnas7]

did anyone else get the feeling that Anand was using the Radeon HD 5570 as a proxy for Llano...

 

[mosox]

SYSMark - not interested
Photoshop - not interested, I can do my stuff on a dual core
Encoding - I can wait a few minutes more. Even longer.
3dsmax - not interested
Cinebench - couldn't care less
Blender - What's that?
MS Excel Monte Carlo whatever - I use it all the time - just kidding
Compression, 7 zip - I do that all day long. Not.

2600K vs the $100 cheaper i-5 750

Legitreviews (full HD):
Left 4 Dead 2
2600K = 273.2
750 = 267
Starcraft 2
2600K = 84.2
750 = 80.7
FIFA 2011
2600K = 264.2
750 = 252.6
Anand (1680x1050):
Fallout 3
2600K = 90.3
750 = 86.2
Crysis
2600K = 90.5
750 = 83.3


etc etc


So, where's my extra $100 that I pay for the Sandy Bridge? 5 lousy fps in my games? LOL. I can get a much better video card with that.

 

[richierich1212]

SYSMark - not interested
Photoshop - not interested, I can do my stuff on a dual core
Encoding - I can wait a few minutes more. Even longer.
3dsmax - not interested
Cinebench - couldn't care less
Blender - What's that?
MS Excel Monte Carlo whatever - I use it all the time - just kidding
Compression, 7 zip - I do that all day long. Not.

2600K vs the $100 cheaper i-5 750

Legitreviews (full HD):
Left 4 Dead 2
2600K = 273.2
750 = 267
Starcraft 2
2600K = 84.2
750 = 80.7
FIFA 2011
2600K = 264.2
750 = 252.6
Anand (1680x1050):
Fallout 3
2600K = 90.3
750 = 86.2
Crysis
2600K = 90.5
750 = 83.3


etc etc


So, where's my extra $100 that I pay? 5 lousy fps in my games? LOL.

Well that's the reason why people like upgrading for some reason. Because the synthetic benchmarks are increased.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

did anyone else get the feeling that Anand was using the Radeon HD 5570 as a proxy for Llano...

Yes. Although he didn't outright mention it. Either he didn't want to go more off tangent in his review or he did it subconsciously. So yeah, I fully expect AMD's on-die GPU to outpace Sandy Bridge, although if they put something as powerful as the 5570 core then it will probably run into memory bandwidth starvation in a lot of scenarios.

2 core or 6 core?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=203
(once encode is done by SB encode engine, expect reversal of graphs for encoding)
ok so this was a troll

The six cores still spank the dual cores in the multithreaded apps. In everything else the 2100 has a marginal lead. It depends on your usage pattern as to which one is the better chip.

SYSMark - not interested
Photoshop - not interested, I can do my stuff on a dual core
Encoding - I can wait a few minutes more. Even longer.
3dsmax - not interested
Cinebench - couldn't care less
Blender - What's that?
MS Excel Monte Carlo whatever - I use it all the time - just kidding
Compression, 7 zip - I do that all day long. Not.

2600K vs the $100 cheaper i-5 750

Legitreviews (full HD):
Left 4 Dead 2
2600K = 273.2
750 = 267
Starcraft 2
2600K = 84.2
750 = 80.7
FIFA 2011
2600K = 264.2
750 = 252.6
Anand (1680x1050):
Fallout 3
2600K = 90.3
750 = 86.2
Crysis
2600K = 90.5
750 = 83.3


etc etc


So, where's my extra $100 that I pay for the Sandy Bridge? 5 lousy fps in my games? LOL. I can get a much better video card with that.

Games rely on the GPU. Did you really expect Sandy Bridge to magically make current video cards 50-100% faster? That simply doesn't happen when testing at detail levels that most gamers use. That would only happen at low details and low resolution.

Why do you compare the 750 to the 2600K? You could just as well say the same thing when comparing the 750 to the 950 "Where's my $100 that I pay? 5 lousy fps in my games for the 950 over the 750? LOL." Better yet, compare the 750 to the 960 "Where's my $300 that I pay? 5 lousy fps? LOL"

The 2500k is the same price as the 750, and is faster. Even the i5 2400 and 2300 should be cheaper and faster.

 

[thedosbox]

I find it hilarious that owners of socket 1156 systems are complaining how Sandy Bridge isn't worth it. Well duh! Upgrading every year is rarely worth it.

 

[Castiel]

I find it hilarious that owners of socket 1156 systems are complaining how Sandy Bridge isn't worth it. Well duh! Upgrading every year is rarely worth it.

I own 1156 and i believe IT IS worth it I honestly don't need it but screw it. It's only money

 

[Edrick]

I find it hilarious that owners of socket 1156 systems are complaining how Sandy Bridge isn't worth it. Well duh! Upgrading every year is rarely worth it.

I am upgrading from 1156. I think the increased speed, lower power, better IPC, AVX, wider PCIe lanes, SATA6, and USB3 is worth it. Plus I like having the latest and greatest.

And I will upgrade to LGA2011 as well.

 

[Castiel]

I am upgrading from 1156. I think the increased speed, lower power, better IPC, wider PCIe lanes, SATA6, and USB3 is worth it. Plus I like having the latest and greatest.

This!

 

[Maximilian]

Sandy bridge is a dissapointment, im waiting for haswell. At the same clock speed it barely beats the old i7's its basically the 32nm quad core people have been asking for since clarkdale came out, except its got extra overclocking restrictions and needs a new socket. Fantastic :thumbsdown:

Maybe AMD will surprise me and pull off something awesome with bulldozer, its been too long since they were competitive.

 

[thedosbox]

Sandy bridge is a dissapointment, im waiting for haswell. At the same clock speed it barely beats the old i7's

And yet it offers that performance at lower cost. Shocker.

 

[mosox]

It does. But nothing that's worth spending on it when you have the current i5 or i7. Still on 775? Go for it. Not a replacement for the 1156, just a better replacement than the 1156 for the 775.

 

[thedosbox]

It does. But nothing that's worth spending on it when you have the current i5 or i7. Still on 775? Go for it. Not a replacement for the 1156, just a better replacement than the 1156 for the 775.

See my previous post.

 

[mosox]

I run an unlocked 555 - that's a 955. I hope the new Bulldozer or whatever they call it will replace the current AM3 CPUs, replace as in "make us throw them away and buy the new ones" and not be just a better option for the current AM2 CPU owners.

 

[edplayer]

It does. But nothing that's worth spending on it when you have the current i5 or i7.

Basically correct, but even then, some will upgrade. If you sell your old parts, upgrading may cost only around $100 or so. To most people on this forum, that is not a lot. Definitely when you consider how long it will last. Even if you upgrade every cycle. Its not like you are paying $100 to upgrade every day.

 

[mosox]

Yep, that's true, Intel chips have good prices on SH, easier to upgrade on Intel. And I kinda like the lower TDP.

 

[gevorg]

SYSMark - not interested
Photoshop - not interested, I can do my stuff on a dual core
Encoding - I can wait a few minutes more. Even longer.
3dsmax - not interested
Cinebench - couldn't care less
Blender - What's that?
MS Excel Monte Carlo whatever - I use it all the time - just kidding
Compression, 7 zip - I do that all day long. Not.

2600K vs the $100 cheaper i-5 750

Legitreviews (full HD):
Left 4 Dead 2
2600K = 273.2
750 = 267
Starcraft 2
2600K = 84.2
750 = 80.7
FIFA 2011
2600K = 264.2
750 = 252.6
Anand (1680x1050):
Fallout 3
2600K = 90.3
750 = 86.2
Crysis
2600K = 90.5
750 = 83.3


etc etc


So, where's my extra $100 that I pay for the Sandy Bridge? 5 lousy fps in my games? LOL. I can get a much better video card with that.

If every user would think like this, Intel and AMD would have nightmares.

 

[edplayer]

If every user would think like this, Intel and AMD would have nightmares.

No, that is not that far off from how things really work.

Only a very tiny amount of customers will upgrade if they have i5/i7 or even S775. Most Sandy Bridge buyers have old computers. They aren't buying because of benchmarks, but because their old computers suck. They will just go to Best Buy and ask the kid which one to buy. "This one just came out. Its bitchin. Same cpu that James Bond uses. Its $1000."

Customer: "I'll take it."

 

[toyota]

I am upgrading from 1156. I think the increased speed, lower power, better IPC, AVX, wider PCIe lanes, SATA6, and USB3 is worth it. Plus I like having the latest and greatest.

And I will upgrade to LGA2011 as well.

Sandy Bridge doesn't have USB3 built in. its available the same way it was on 1156.

 

[Hogan773]

No, that is not that far off from how things really work.

Only a very tiny amount of customers will upgrade if they have i5/i7 or even S775. Most Sandy Bridge buyers have old computers. They aren't buying because of benchmarks, but because their old computers suck. They will just go to Best Buy and ask the kid which one to buy. "This one just came out. Its bitchin. Same cpu that James Bond uses. Its $1000."

Customer: "I'll take it."

I will be a SB buyer. I am currently rocking a Pentium D 820 that is about 6 yrs old. While an i5 760 would be an awesome upgrade, I've waited patiently for 3-4 months for SB to arrive, and now I will get a much better (than 760) chip for about the same price, on a socket that is not dead (today at least). I would have been a fool to rush to upgrade on a 760 with SB just around the corner.

I agree that if I already had a 760 I probably wouldn't throw it in the trash and re-buy a new SB platform.

 

[Edrick]

Sandy Bridge doesn't have USB3 built in. its available the same way it was on 1156.

No, LGA1156 has PCIe bandwidth limitations for UBS3 and SATA6. Where the new P67 chipset doubles the PCIe bandwidth (2.5 to 5.0) so that USB3 and SATA6 can work without limitations. At least that is how I understand it.

 

[toyota]

No, LGA1156 has PCIe bandwidth limitations for UBS3 and SATA6. Where the new P67 chipset doubles the PCIe bandwidth (2.5 to 5.0) so that USB3 and SATA6 can work without limitations. At least that is how I understand it.

I am saying that USB3 is third party on 1155 just like it was on 1156. it is not native on the chipset.

 

[IntelUser2000]

This info is from the Intel motherboard page:

DirectX11* CS4.0 only compliant