San Francisco officials label the NRA as a "terrorist organization"

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K1052

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There is a delicious irony that SF legislators choose to pursue such inconsequential and symbolic gestures considering its most affluent citizens made their fortunes monetizing and normalizing the fringe voices that evolved into the alt-right.

But since they solved the housing crisis, opioid crisis and homeless epidemic, they have time for grandstanding.

It is hilarious that people contend that if it were not for this kind of "grandstanding" that SF would suddenly find an an easy way to deal with decades long politically intractable problems. What a lazy argument in the service of axe grinding.
 

fskimospy

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I have to say I find it really funny that Slow is talking about how he's a member of the NRA considering how it's come out over the last year or so that the NRA's leadership has basically just been stealing his money and going shopping with it.

Slow really is the world's easiest mark.
 

fskimospy

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There is a delicious irony that SF legislators choose to pursue such inconsequential and symbolic gestures considering its most affluent citizens made their fortunes monetizing and normalizing the fringe voices that evolved into the alt-right.

But since they solved the housing crisis, opioid crisis and homeless epidemic, they have time for grandstanding.

Do you think the reason they haven't solved those problems is because of insufficient time on the legislative calendar? If not, why is this relevant?
 

Sunburn74

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There is a delicious irony that SF legislators choose to pursue such inconsequential and symbolic gestures considering its most affluent citizens made their fortunes monetizing and normalizing the fringe voices that evolved into the alt-right.

But since they solved the housing crisis, opioid crisis and homeless epidemic, they have time for grandstanding.
Right. The leadership of SF is responsible for solving federal level crises that have been brewing for decades. Got it.

Let's not go crazy here. It's a simple and symbolic thing to do that won't significantly delay their ability to work on other problems nor does it have costs to anyone within the city. It's very different than when say the GOP passes ridiculous abortion laws or bathroom laws that take months to pass which they know will be shot down in costly taxpayer funded legal battles for mostly symbolic pandering to their bases (at the expense of working on things like healthcare and housing etc)
 
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UNCjigga

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There is a delicious irony that SF legislators choose to pursue such inconsequential and symbolic gestures considering its most affluent citizens made their fortunes monetizing and normalizing the fringe voices that evolved into the alt-right.

But since they solved the housing crisis, opioid crisis and homeless epidemic, they have time for grandstanding.

Inconsequential? The fact that one of the largest cities in the US and home of the tech industry is going to “re-examine their relationships with anyone doing business with the NRA” doesn’t seem inconsequential to me.
 
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zinfamous

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-brands-nra-a-domestic-terrorist-organization

Guess I'm a terrorist in the eyes of San Francisco, as I am a member of the NRA. Laughable. While the NRA is far from perfect, they really are simply a lobbying and educational group. This is yet another example of the left leaping left of common sense, putting their feels ahead of logic. I get there are things to complain about the NRA legitimately, but a "terrorist" organization? I really do think the left wants to start a war in this country.

yes, you're a terrorist. just like the NRA.

There is no mystery here.
 
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zinfamous

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Sounds like a figure of speech, I'll watch the video when my meeting is over. But something tells me, as I've seen many of her videos before, she is not calling for physical harm to journalists. Sounds like quite the stretch.

Your kool-aid tastes suspiciously similar to Trump's asshole, doesn't it?
 
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zinfamous

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Ah, the NRA is now in bed with the Russians too?! You guys are pushing a modern red scare. How does it feel to be just like Joseph McCarthy? Do you have no decency, sir?

Yes, they are literally fucking Russian spies. Dumb bitch is in jail because of it, too.

Are you saying that you aren't aware of any actual news? This is because you are illiterate, isn't it?

But then, being a white american rightwing screwhead, you are the most likely terrorist of any demographic in the US. Truth hurts, but that is literally what you are.
 

Amused

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Neither is BLM

Damn you! You know that everyone protesting in favor of civil rights are exactly the same as those who violate them!!! Duh!!! People who protest racism are racists, people who protest fascism are fascists!!! Get with the cult already!
 
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Starbuck1975

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Inconsequential? The fact that one of the largest cities in the US and home of the tech industry is going to “re-examine their relationships with anyone doing business with the NRA” doesn’t seem inconsequential to me.
I am not going to celebrate their attempting to slay the monster they helped create. SF is no Beowulf.
 

Perknose

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That seems extreme. I don't like the NRA or just about anything they do, but that doesn't make them terrorists. Shitbags who profit from death and violence, sure, but not terrorists.
Well, they're a criminal organization whose leadership supports domestic terrorism through their opposition to laws that would help hinder domestic terrorists' access to weapons of civilian mass destruction.

Oh, and yes! Shitbags who profit from death and violence, for sure.
 
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Amused

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But weren't they part of it? They were right in the middle of the mess from what I remember.. I feel I should point out that I'm a firm supporter of BLM, warts and all

Read the chain of events on wiki. Way, way way beyond BLM.
 

Bitek

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How high does the body count have to get before the label applies?

What did we call the tobacco lobbyists/execs that denied the cancer links?

Was pre-9/11, so we didn't use that language, but greedy, cancer spreading, sub-human pieces of shit fit the bill.

Either way, we're just debating semantics on the gun manufacturers lobby group that feels no remorse for babies being shot, or children being terrorized in their schools if it will make them a buck. F em.
 

Greenman

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Good to see the city taking positive action against a real threat to whatever it is they think the NRA is threatening. This it the sort of bravery we need from our elected officials. With this empty gesture, the city is moving itself into the forefront of the fight against whatever it is they think they're fighting. Soon, the city by the bay will become a beacon of hope and enlightenment, untainted by whatever nefarious activity's this organization might someday commit.
The citizens of this fair city will sleep safer tonight. Secure in the knowledge that their city leaders will take empty action against a make believe threat that never existed.
 

ultimatebob

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I must admit, I do miss the days when the NRA was mostly a gun safety organization. Now, they just seem to be a branch of the Republican party lobbying arm.
 
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fskimospy

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Good to see the city taking positive action against a real threat to whatever it is they think the NRA is threatening. This it the sort of bravery we need from our elected officials. With this empty gesture, the city is moving itself into the forefront of the fight against whatever it is they think they're fighting. Soon, the city by the bay will become a beacon of hope and enlightenment, untainted by whatever nefarious activity's this organization might someday commit.
The citizens of this fair city will sleep safer tonight. Secure in the knowledge that their city leaders will take empty action against a make believe threat that never existed.

All political posturing aside considering the amount of corruption, fraud, and potential infiltration by hostile foreign governments going on it's probably good governance for all municipalities to avoid dealing with the NRA just from a legal liability standpoint. I mean at this point the organization seems to be one giant scam to convert donor money to fancy suits for Wayne LaPierre.