San Diego 4000+ X1 or 3800+X2?

[Sonikku]

The San diego 4000+ X1 with a 1mb cach is available for $128.

The 3800+ X2 512mb cach is available for $160

I'm a gamer. Which chip is better? Is the 3800+ actually slower for more cash and less cach?

 

[lopri]

No offense to OP, but this topic has been discussed to death. With your sig and post counts, I'd assume you already know what you want and/or what's the difference between the two? Or at least you could try a search. Why are you making another thread like this? Sorry if I sound rude. I guess I'm kind of tired of "which is better, A or B"? type of threads that usually end up with personal preference show-offs or flamefests.

 

[Ayah]

Grab the 3800+ X2 and overclock it.

 

[Sonikku]

If I knew everything there was to know about a CPU upgrade, I wouldn't start such a topic in the first place.

As for a search, No messages found matching your criteria. was what I had to work with.

 

[imported_Sincity]

X2 and OC it! Plus, if you do video encodes, the second core helps. Or, you can run a BF2 server and play on the same PC!

 

[Ayah]

Originally posted by: Sincity
X2 and OC it! Plus, if you do video encodes, the second core helps. Or, you can run a BF2 server and play on the same PC!

You'd need some serious internet backbone power though.

 

[Sonikku]

Yeah. I doubt Dial up is going to do the job.

 

[knightc2]

I too am debating this very thing. I was looking at 3700, 3800 and 4000 but the 3800 X2 is in the same price range as the 4000 X1. I do not game and mostly use office apps, web surfing, some DVD burning and Pinnacle video rendering. Checking the Tomshardware CPU comparison seems to show that the 4000 X1 would be better for what I do. Any comments?

 

[Captante]

IMO the 3800+ is the way to because overclocking it to 2.4ghz is close to garanteed & overall your system performance will be much better with dual-core.

 

[wolfman11]

I really don't think you can go wrong either way. If you upgrade often I'd get the 4000+ because it's cheaper. If you do things like video encoding, etc I'd lean to the x2. Other than that, it's pretty much up to you. I have a fast single core and it works fine for everything I use it for (general web browsing, office apps and application development).

 

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: Sincity
X2 and OC it! Plus, if you do video encodes, the second core helps. Or, you can run a BF2 server and play on the same PC!

I think you just made me a whole lot happier about thinking of getting a dual-core when I upgrade soon...

 

[tallman45]

With out question get the X2, there is always something running in the background, plus with there being so many dual procesors now out there we are sure to see more and more applications making use of them

If you are really determined to stay single core then go with a 3500+ or a 3700+ a 4000+ does not offer much more the extra $$ to get it

FYI, that 4000+ 1mb cache adds "maybe" 2-3% performance over 512mb

 

[StrangerGuy]

X2 3800+. It's a no brainer. Reasons:

1. Both of them are fast enough for games. The video card plays a much larger role in framerates anyway.

2. X2 3800+ multitasking is light years ahead than the 4000+. Gaming while running anything CPU intensive will make the 4000+ drop like a dense rock.

3. Future games will definitely run faster on the X2.

 

[myocardia]

The answer to this question is simple, I would think. If you overclock, get the X2 3800. If you don't, you'll most likely be happier with the extra 400 Mhz worth of clock speed, along with the extra L2 cache that it comes with, assuming you ever use any of the apps that can even take advantage of 1MB of L2.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: Sonikku
The San diego 4000+ X1 with a 1mb cach is available for $128.

The 3800+ X2 512mb cach is available for $160

I'm a gamer. Which chip is better?

IMO, if you're a gamer and play at a resolution of 1280x1024 or higher, you're MUCH better off upgrading that x800 than you are your 3500+. But if you're interested in running other CPU-intensive applications, such as video encoding, then the X2 will be a good upgrade for you. For strictly gaming, go with a new video card.

 

[Rottie]

look at my rig I think my a64 3500+ is slower than with Radeon X850 Pro. I think a64 x2 4800+ might give me some boost?

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: Rottie
look at my rig I think my a64 3500+ is slower than with Radeon X850 Pro. I think a64 x2 4800+ might give me some boost?

If you're talking about strictly gaming here, then it greatly depends on what resolution you play at (and what AA level you like to use). As long as you play at 1280x1024 or higher with some AA, your processor speed matters less than your video card power.

Try it out for yourself. Play a game using FRAPS (or use an in-game benchmark like FEAR) at the settings you like to play at and note the FPS. Then, go and UNDERclock your CPU by several hundred mhz. Say from 2.5 down to 2.0. Benchmark it again with the slower chip speed and note the FPS again.

 

[jiffylube1024]

X2 plus overclocking. Even without overclocking, the X2 system will be much more responsive in Windows for multitasking. Overclock the X2 (easy 2.4 Ghz; can probably hit higher depending on stepping), and it blows the 4000+ away.

 

[knightc2]

I still am undecided on which way to go but am leaning towards a 3800 X2. One thing I must say is that people are recommending the 3800 X2 based on overclocked performance. People are forgetting that no matter what processor someone buys, if they are going to overclock the X2 they will surely be overclocking the single core processesor as well. That means that we are NOT comparing an overclocked 3800 X2 to a stock 3700, 3800 or 4000. We should be comparing an overclocked X2 3800 to an overclocked single core 4000, 3800 or 3700. The dual core CPU is $50 more than the 3700, $40 more than the 3800 and $25-$30 more than the 4000. If you are a gamer I would think that an overclocked single core would do you far more good than a dual core processor at least until more games are designed for dual core, especially for the price.