Samsung thinks the high-end market is saturated?

[poofyhairguy]

I'm not convinced that games will be a major hardware push for phones.

Hook a phone/tablet to a TV via HDMI and a controller via bluetooth and you have a game console wanting all the power you can throw at it.

 

[Jinny]

Hook a phone/tablet to a TV via HDMI and a controller via bluetooth and you have a game console wanting all the power you can throw at it.

in theory yes, but there is lag when you are outputting to hdmi. its fine for watching videos but games would not go well.

i'm dont know about the current crop of high end phones but last years batch i believe still have this problem.

 

[vi edit]

Hook a phone/tablet to a TV via HDMI and a controller via bluetooth and you have a game console wanting all the power you can throw at it.

I'm not saying you are wrong, simply that it's just not a big market and I don't think it will continue to be a market. At least not with the way phone manfs are going. With 16 gig phones being standard, and SD slots going away quickly games that are demanding like that are also incredibly beefy installs. Some of them are upwards of 2 gigs. It doesn't take long to fill up the limited storage size of a phone. Plus there's the whole argument of battery life and how much heavy gaming can chew through that.

Portable gaming for "hardcore" gamers is still done via dedicated portable consoles. If I want to game on a TV I'm just sticking to a console. I just really don't see mobile phones as they stand today as changing that. They will continue to cater to casual gamers because that is where the money is at and phone makers know it. It's no different than Apple not catering to the gaming market. It doesn't hurt their Macbook sales in any way.

 

[vi edit]

in theory yes, but there is lag when you are outputting to hdmi. its fine for watching videos but games would not go well.

Why does the lag have to be any different than what consoles experience over HDMI? If it's okay for that then it should be ok for phones, no?

 

[poofyhairguy]

in theory yes, but there is lag when you are outputting to hdmi. its fine for watching videos but games would not go well.

i'm dont know about the current crop of high end phones but last years batch i believe still have this problem.

The lag isn't a problem. No one but hardcore gamers care about that and they aren't gaming on a phone console.

The problem is having to hook in an HDMI. That requires wires, adaptors, etc.

The solution is having an Apple TV that mirrors the phone/tablet while you are gaming wirelessly.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I'm not saying you are wrong, simply that it's just not a big market and I don't think it will continue to be a market. At least not with the way phone manfs are going. With 16 gig phones being standard, and SD slots going away quickly games that are demanding like that are also incredibly beefy installs. Some of them are upwards of 2 gigs. It doesn't take long to fill up the limited storage size of a phone. Plus there's the whole argument of battery life and how much heavy gaming can chew through that.

Portable gaming for "hardcore" gamers is still done via dedicated portable consoles. If I want to game on a TV I'm just sticking to a console. I just really don't see mobile phones as they stand today as changing that. They will continue to cater to casual gamers because that is where the money is at and phone makers know it. It's no different than Apple not catering to the gaming market. It doesn't hurt their Macbook sales in any way.

iOS 7 just gave the option for controllers. Android controller compatibility is growing by leaps and bounds. All the limitations about storage and battery life can be dealt with when the games are $5 instead of $50 like on a console. People will tolerate worse for much less.

I personally think mobile device will eat half of the console market in 5 years. The only ones that will be left with real consoles are real gamers. The Wii crowd will be playing iPad Airs hooked to their TV. And as the sales records the last gen shows, the Wii crowd is the biggest part of the market.