That chart is not that useful. Using arguments based on comparing a year with Q4 data included with a year w/o Q4 data unfortunately shows the level of understanding that seasonality as Q4 easily has 2x to 3x the previous quarters' units sold. This is what I say about the smartest algorithms fed with mediocre sensor data: employing the GIGO principle - Garbage In Garbage Out.
*vgchartz removed*
XBox One should also be just estimated as in the Ars Technica chart due to MS policy (which is an understandable move).
Yeah, cool! I expected exactly this reaction (genetic fallacy again). I was too lazy to post my prediction, but now I'm happy.You should know vgchartz have nothing to do with reality. They are based purely on guesswork.
Yeah, cool! I expected exactly this reaction (genetic fallacy again). I was too lazy to post my prediction, but now I'm happy.
A bad excuse is a bad excuse.
Just accept the reality and move on.
Your precious AMD isn't selling well.
Nice one Dresdenboy, but I would also like to say that AMD sold the highest volume in Q3 2015 to Sony and MS since both of them were getting ready for the holiday season (Q4). So AMD already knew how much better 2015 was since the end of Q3.
The problem exists on the other side of the fence too.And here we have it again. Intel shareholders derailing another AMD thread to the point of it being unreadable and unrelated.
Thanks for ruining the forums.
And here we have it again. Intel shareholders derailing another AMD thread to the point of it being unreadable and unrelated.
Thanks for ruining the forums.
Thinking that Greenland and Zen are magically going to fix all of AMD's problems is just really naive.
And here we have it again. Intel shareholders derailing another AMD thread to the point of it being unreadable and unrelated.
Thanks for ruining the forums.
No, but they are in the right direction. Especially with ZEN they will start selling High Margins SERVER parts again after 4-5 years.
No, but they are in the right direction. Especially with ZEN they will start selling High Margins SERVER parts again after 4-5 years.
Only if they're competitive. They might be, but it's far from certain at this point. Remember, AMD had big plans to recapture server share with its Construction cores too. Terramar, anybody?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...ancels_10_Core_20_Core_Server_Processors.html
Yeap, no 22nm available no server parts. Simple as that.
But this time they will have a nice 14nm FF node and a new mArch so things are way different than before.
It's called estimation, projection, interpolation, extrapolation, update. Wanna try an extended Kalman filter on that?You should know vgchartz have nothing to do with reality. They are based purely on guesswork.
And here we have it again. Intel shareholders derailing another AMD thread to the point of it being unreadable and unrelated.
Thanks for ruining the forums.
Also that 14FF node seems good for handhelds and other mobile form factors, but I have yet to see any >2.2GHz parts built on it. Let's wait and see how good this node is in server/HEDT parts before proclaiming that it will close the node gap between Intel and AMD.
That depends on the used and available data sources. And these might be different for individual games and consoles. If we want to wait for the exact sales numbers, we should stop discussing the consoles in this Samsung/GF thread and open another thread in a couple of weeks, as Q4 sales numbers - even according to VGChartz - are an important data point for a yearly decline discussion.Vgchartz is unreliable as hell.
Um, Bulldozer & lineage were the "new arch" that was supposed to fix the problems of the prior gen, so maybe we should wait and see before assuming "new" means "competitive & great"?
Nope, I just finished watching a good movie, and felt, I might add something more to it, as my thoughts, which were related to this, accumulated over time.Second time you post on the same quote. Not going to make vgchartz any better. And the financials dont back your statement.
Maybe they just want to bring "balance to the force", so to speak.