Same sex marriage

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SlowSpyder

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I grew up 30 minutes from San Fransisco. I'll never forget as a kid driving past gay people walking around with their dicks out on the way to baseball games. Absolutely horrid.


I wouldn't care for that either. But you're crazy if you think straight people don't do things that are in bad taste as well.
 

futurefields

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Yeah but you see that stuff everytime you drive through a "gay neighborhood" you see gay people making out etc... it is absolutely disgusting and children especially do not need to be seeing that. And these same people want to adopt kids...
 

Rakehellion

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Insider tip for you...... not everyone is made equal! I guess that is why I never grew boobs, sucks. But hey, we all don't get to be treated equally.

Flying and homosexuality are not analogous. If everyone was flying, it would not lead to the death of humans. Flying is a benefit to the human race. Homosexuality creates and spreads disease and does not benefit society in any way. This is why it should be socially frowned upon, not celebrated.

Not everyone is made equal, but everyone should do the same thing!
 

Tombstone1881

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Insider tip for you...... not everyone is made equal! I guess that is why I never grew boobs, sucks. But hey, we all don't get to be treated equally.

There is no difference biologically speaking between a male and a female in the chest department. It's just that women have the hormones to develop them, while men don't.

If you want breasts, all you need to do is take the proper hormones, and you too could possibly fit into a DD bra!
 

Rakehellion

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Anything that you do, that if everyone would do it, would lead to your death or the death of the entire human race, its not a good thing and should not be celebrated as such.

That's why hatred and bigotry are condemned or we'd be extinct by now.
 

Vaux

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I'd address the things you said, but none of it has anything to do with gay MARRIAGE. You may not like homosexuality, and can say that if we all go gay that'll end the human race (LOL), that we'll all die (LOL), that there is no benefit to anyone (LOL). But none of that has anything to do with marriage, they're just your bigoted way of looking at homosexuals.

Are you worried if gay marriage is legalized we'll all suddenly become gay? If not, then none of your comments address gay marriage.


Can't resist, I'll comment on your Forrest Gumpy points, I do want to know, how does being gay 'create disease'? How does it spread disease that hetrosexuals can't and don't spread? How are stable homes and relationships not a benefit to society?

It all has to do with marriage. I am not saying you can't be gay and i'm not even saying you can't have a gay lover, people are free to do as they wish. But a marriage is a celebration, and gays should not be able to marry because they are going it wrong.

How does being gay create disease? Are you joking? You are 40 times more likely to get HIV if you're gay. Seventy percent of people with aids are gays. Ten times more likely to get anal cancer.... way way more likely to get STD's if you are gay.
 

SlowSpyder

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Yeah but you see that stuff everytime you drive through a "gay neighborhood" you see gay people making out etc... it is absolutely disgusting and children especially do not need to be seeing that. And these same people want to adopt kids...


Believe it or not, I've driven through gay areas without seeing a single dick.

Gay people making out is no more a bother to me then my kid seeing straight people making out. If he asked me why two women were kissing I'd tell him because it is awesome, two men I'd give him the speech about how some people are different and like the same sex. Not a big deal to me, I'm not big on PDA, straight or not. But my care level is about the same for gay or straight PDA.

What about gay parents makes them uniquely bad as parents? There are a lot of gay people that probably shouldn't be parents. Lots of straight people who should be parents too. But there are a lot of good gay parents and good straight parents too.
 

Vaux

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given that gays make up about only 5% of the population, I don't see gays causing the destruction of the human race any time soon.

(hell, gays even have kids... my boyfriend's mom popped out 3 kids before getting a divorce and coming out as a lesbian in her 40's. my cousin and her wife have also talked about getting knocked up)

Well it won't, but still that doesn't make it right or acceptable.

And why do so many gays have sex with the opposite sex? I thought there was no choice involved? Hmmm.
 

Retro Rob

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People want the same rights that other people have. When people aren't treated equally, the boat tends to rock. This has been the case with civil rights issues in the past, it is the case with this civil rights issue as well.





We weren't made to fly either, but we do all the time without people complaining about what is natural or not. Marriage isn't about having children, it is about two people declaring their love for one another and spending the rest of their lives together as a couple (though we all know divorce isn't too uncommon). So what our bodies are made to do doesn't really matter.

Give people equal rights and let's be done with it. For straight people nothing at all changes, even you anti-gay people. Your lives will remain completely the same, you can keep hating, you're not going to turn gay if suddenly homosexuals can marry.

I never said flying was either natural or unnatural, so your point makes no sense -- nor did I say being gay was unnatural.

I was addressing the "nature" objection.

Pay attention.
 

nageov3t

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And why do so many gays have sex with the opposite sex? I thought there was no choice involved? Hmmm.

societal pressure?

everyone's different... I would never willingly be in a relationship with a female, but heterosexual sex isn't a complete turn-off. doesn't give me the same electric charge as being with another guy, but for some people a warm hole is a warm hole. (otoh, there are gays out there utterly repulsed by female sex organs and for whom it would be an instant boner killer)

obviously it's easier for women, since they can just lay there and fake it.
 

SlowSpyder

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It all has to do with marriage. I am not saying you can't be gay and i'm not even saying you can't have a gay lover, people are free to do as they wish. But a marriage is a celebration, and gays should not be able to marry because they are going it wrong.

How does being gay create disease? Are you joking? You are 40 times more likely to get HIV if you're gay. Seventy percent of people with aids are gays. Ten times more likely to get anal cancer.... way way more likely to get STD's if you are gay.


So you're ok with gay people. You're ok with gay people having a lover / relationship. But you're not ok with gay people celebrating that love / relationship? Because if they did.... what happens to you exactly? Nothing.

I'm not joking, nothing you said is disease being created by gays. It shows that we should all practice safe sex until you know someone well enough. If gay people get married, are you or anyone you love more likely to get anal cancer? Right now 50% of us will develop cancer sometime in our life, even if I trusted your 10x number, how is that really unique from a straight person? There are many different groups of people who are at higher risk for some kind of cancer. This means nothing in regards to gay MARRIAGE.
 

Vaux

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Yes, it does.

I guess the whole damn country was filled with horrible people in the 90's and about half the population is horrible now.

That boat doesn't float. I don't feel you are horrible because we don't agree.
 

SlitheryDee

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I kind of agree about the fed overruling state laws, but honestly I don't give a fuck whether gays get to be married or not. Why the hell do straight people fight so hard against it though? I always like to say that if I see it on a ballot while I'm already voting for something else, sure I'll vote for same sex marriage. I won't make a special trip "just" for that, but get it on there with something I actually care about and you have my vote. If you expect more than that out of someone who has zero dogs in this race then to hell with you.
 

SlowSpyder

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Bah. Just because I don't think gays should be married doesn't make me a horrible person.


Bah. Just because I don't think black people and white people should be married doesn't make me a horrible person.

But you agree it would actually, right? Do you realize the same arguments about what's natural, kids growing up and seeing a black and white person together, etc., all those arguments were used in the past against other civil rights issues?
 

dank69

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I guess the whole damn country was filled with horrible people in the 90's and about half the population is horrible now.

That boat doesn't float. I don't feel you are horrible because we don't agree.
Back then it was 50% ignorance and 50% malicious. There is no excuse for ignorance anymore.
 
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Because it's not right, that's why. Same way you shouldn't be able to marry your sister or a group of 5 people marrying each other. It's ridiculous to even ponder it.

What you think is right is not the end all be all of thinking. In fact you are on the wrong end as it will happen and youll be left standing there with a dunce cap on looking like the idiot you are.
 

Vaux

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So you're ok with gay people. You're ok with gay people having a lover / relationship. But you're not ok with gay people celebrating that love / relationship? Because if they did.... what happens to you exactly? Nothing.



I'm not joking, nothing you said is disease being created by gays. It shows that we should all practice safe sex until you know someone well enough. If gay people get married, are you or anyone you love more likely to get anal cancer? Right now 50% of us will develop cancer sometime in our life, even if I trusted your 10x number, how is that really unique from a straight person? There are many different groups of people who are at higher risk for some kind of cancer. This means nothing in regards to gay MARRIAGE.

Don't get me wrong, I am not OK with it. I still feel it's wrong, but there is nothing anyone can do about that. I can't control what people do. But society as a whole can control what they feel is appropriate. The celebration of marriage should not apply to two people of the same sex because it is unnatural and unhealthy and the human body is not made to work that way. It's wrong. Only a man and a woman are made to come together as one.

And it has nothing to do with what happens to me. As I have already said, if something happens to me or not is not what always dictates if something is right or not.