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Originally posted by: misle
Tax included in the price is a bad idea. I think we need to continuously remind people that they are paying for this government of ours.

I also think that we shouldn't have taxes taken out of pay check. I think more people would demand fiscial responsibility from our government if they had to write a big ass check once a year to pay the government.

i can see your point
 
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: toekramp
Why leave the guess work!

You have to guess? I use multiplication. In fact I challenge my kids who can get closest to "right" price at register gets $5. They are all under 11 and nail it often.

I used to do that when I was a kid a lot, never got paid for it, but my mother would give me weird stares when I would add up an entire cart full of groceries and calculate the tax and be right to the penny (i think I was 10-12 at the time)


Good for you🙂 It amazing when you practice > addition > breaking up taxable from exempt> then breaking up the taxable amount into chuncks> fianally adding everything back together... How easy it gets. Well as they say practice... I pay for grades too. Teaches excellence is rewarded later in life.
 
Originally posted by: newParadigm
it is for some things "sin tax", taxes for suc htings as cigs and booze are included in the price as well as Gas....

Those aren't sales taxes, they're other taxes. (You still pay sales tax on top of the price of cigarettes, so actually you're paying sales tax on the ciagarette tax too... 🙂)
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: bthorny
I believe in Europe it's already included, I like the idea....

yup, sure is nice to have the tax rate hidden from you


??? hidden - everyone knows the tax rate and if you dont it's not hard to figure it out. And it's not like it chages evry other day.
 
Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: bthorny
I believe in Europe it's already included, I like the idea....

yup, sure is nice to have the tax rate hidden from you


??? hidden - everyone knows the tax rate and if you dont it's not hard to figure it out. And it's not like it chages evry other day.

Yes, but people tend to forget about the tax rate when it is automatically taken. Think about the income tax. Prior to WWII, everyone sat down, calculated how much they owed in income tax, and then sent a check to the government. During WWII, the federal government instituted "withholdings" on the premise to help with funding the war effort and that it would be gone after the war. Well, here we are 60 years later and we still have withholdings and the American people as a whole are pretty much clueless on how much they pay in taxes.
 
is it really that hard to figure it out in your head what the tax will ROUGHLY be? just figure out what 10% is, and you will know what it will not exceed. That simple.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: toekramp
Why leave the guess work!

You have to guess? I use multiplication. In fact I challenge my kids who can get closest to "right" price at register gets $5. They are all under 11 and nail it often.

I used to do that when I was a kid a lot, never got paid for it, but my mother would give me weird stares when I would add up an entire cart full of groceries and calculate the tax and be right to the penny (i think I was 10-12 at the time)


Good for you🙂 It amazing when you practice > addition > breaking up taxable from exempt> then breaking up the taxable amount into chuncks> fianally adding everything back together... How easy it gets. Well as they say practice... I pay for grades too. Teaches excellence is rewarded later in life.


I still do it fairly often when shopping for groceries... some things are taxed... some things have a deposit... I keep a running tab in my head for shits and giggles to see how close I am at the register. Since I'm a teacher and the cashiers are often students, I gain a fairly significant hunk of what is known as "expert respect" for simply saying something like "save your time, it's $98.23 Just give me some bags. Yes, plastic are fine. 🙂 " I usually get a laugh, then that "wow, that's pretty good" even if I'm off by a few cents. But, then they reflexively ask "Is plastic okay or would you prefer paper?" I always smile and remind them I already answered that, "plastic will be fine." (very pleasantly though.)

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And, as I go through the store, I make it a point to find something wrong with the unit pricing somewhere... One week, according to the unit pricing (the decimal was in the wrong place) my toilet paper should have been over a hundred dollars. Two weeks ago, "5 for $5" on gatorade somehow had unit pricing of 99 cents per quart. One of my former students always asks, "how do you do that?" "Do what" "Notice those things. How do you notice when they're wrong?" "You mean, it isn't obvious when they're $1 a piece that they should cost $1 apiece??"
 
Sales tax is the less hidden tax in Europe. The law requires that sales tax is included. But at the bottom of every reciept you can see how much sales tax you paid absolutely and how much was added in percents. So you're reminded that you pay sales tax almost daily.

Two examples from Germany:
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