Saddam Hussein, Kim Chong-il, and Ayatollah Khamenei are not evil...

[Kadarin]

<< <<<<Ayatollah Khamenei is actually a moderate.>>
A moderate? What have you been smoking?>>

Clean air. Go ahead and prove he's not a moderate. >>



You guys are confusing Ayatollah Ali Khameini, Iran's religious leader (and Shiite Islamic fundamentalist who is Supreme Leader in Iran) with Iranian President Mohammad Khatami, who was popularly elected, and is (relatively) more moderate in political stance. Khatami has relatively little actual power compared to Khameini.

Source: cnn article

 

[glenn1]

<< Saddam Hussein, Kim Chong-il, and Ayatollah Khamenei are not evil... >>



Let me guess... Saddam Hussein using nerve gas on his own people, and Kim Jong Il reducing his entire population to eating dirt and tree bark, aren't acts of evil, it's simply "performance art" ?

 

[Aquaman]

<< You guys are confusing Ayatollah Ali Khameini, Iran's religious leader (and Shiite Islamic fundamentalist who is Supreme Leader in Iran) with Iranian President Mohammad Khatami, who was popularly elected, and is (relatively) more moderate in political stance. Khatami has relatively little actual power compared to Khameini. >>



Also isn't Khamenei dead?

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Kadarin]

<< Also isn't Khamenei dead? >>



Khameini is the successor to Ayatollah Khomeini, who took power in an Islamic fundamentalist revolution after the shah was deposed in '79 (I believe that was the year). Khomeini is dead.

 

[Random Variable]

<< <<<<Ayatollah Khamenei is actually a moderate.>>
A moderate? What have you been smoking?>>

Clean air. Go ahead and prove he's not a moderate. >>


You're stupid.

 

[busmaster11]

<< Sharon before he came to power knew he was going to be the biggest prick in the middle east - and he has, and the US is empowering him. He's the cause of all the animosity.

cough cough MORON cough cough

no sensible, or sane person could take the positions you have taken in this thread, you've sided with the Ayatolla and said that it was all Sharon's fault. I can therefore conculde that you sir are a terrorist. Whether you are or not is up to the FBI to decide, I have forwarded your user name and some links (along with screenshots to avoid edits) to them. It will be up to them to get your IP from Anandtech, track you down, and send you to Camp X-Ray.

j/k BTW, though your inital comments are still stupid. >>


Sharon's hardline tactics against a whole bunch of people that are willing to die for their cause is whats creating all the violence in Isreal. They can't be put down that way, and now the leaders in Isreal is finally starting to realize that and second guess Sharon. If you're going to support Sharon after all this you've got your lips so far up Bush's arse its not even funny. Just be glad its not your ass thats living in Isreal.

Since you offer nothing but ranting and spewage I conclude you are a dumbass.

And BTW, we all know the leader in Iran is the Ayatollah, whether Khamenei or Khomenei or whatever. Typical of you to flame without knowing the meaning of who the original quote refers to.

 

[TheDeadlyBulb]

<< Hussein wasn't installed by the US. Neither was the Ayatollah. Neither was Bin Laden.

the last thing the US wanted was a radical islamic leader in Iran. In fact, they were supporting the Shah against Mohammad Musaddiq, a more populist leader. Unbeknownst to much of the US state department, the Shah was busy killing religious leaders. The US thought he really had high approval ratings, etc.

So anyway, repressing religion isn't the best idea and it failed miserably; the Ayatollah rebelled. So the irony is that, in fighting a potentially communist Iran, the US created a worse enemy in a fundamentalist Iran. It really, really didn't want to do this.

Hussein wasn't installed by the US either. Our author is confusing "installed by" with "supported by." During the Iran-Iraq war of the eighties, the US was, at various times, supporting both sides of the war to keep the oil flowing.

Bin Laden benefited from US help in fighting against Russia. Neither the Taliban nor Bin Laden were installed by the US either.

I think our author might also be confusing "Saddam" with "North Korea" and "the US" with "Russia" and "the Gulf War" with "the Korean War" because Mao and friends (korean guy's name escapes me) were all taking their orders from Stalin in that war. The US hardly gave the okay to anything Iraq did leading up to the gulf war.

It was, however, in the opinion of almost every political scientist, about oil. >>




I wrote what I worte very quickly as i was in a hurry to leave as I was writing it. I know Osama was not "installed" by the US however he was trained and educated by them. Sent by the US to help combat the Soviet invasion and spread of communism. And the US would let anyone, including the Taliban, to come to power over communism. This is what I meant...sort of.

And Yes Saddam did "Ask" the U.S., Maybe not for everything, but for some things...like the invasion of Kuwait. I'm not sure where to find it, but there is a previously confidential document now being circulated that shows Saddam requesting to attack Kuwait. I learned about it from a teacher of mine.

Im not an encyclopedia on the Middle East, I'm still in highschool. There's no reason to chew me out because of technicalities.