Saddam friendly & conversive to US troops.

[konakona]

I believe that the US will do what benefits it at the moment, whether it's viewed as good or bad.

which is totally justifiable. US has all the rights to act on behalf of her own benefit, but its that fake benevolent image they try to spray makes the rampant anti-US campaigns spring up all over the world. any gonvernment could and should act with their own people's benefit in mind first and foremost. the truth is playing a role vindicator of free world is a bit outdated, and the bush administration is definitely losing "the war of hearts and minds"

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Unfortunately, yllus, it'll never happen. 🙁

 

[Toastedlightly]

Nik, have you s aid that banned word, the one thst starts with a W and ends with an ! ?

 

[yllus]

That's what the British said about you rebellious, brutish Americans.

Fact is, you can't keep people down. You can politicize the cause or clothe yourself as the religious and scream about it being a racist war, but people seek freedom and will achieve it in the long run. In any case, although I detest 99% of your president's domestic policy his foreign policy has endeared him to me and plenty other Middle Easterners (by heritage) across the world.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Legally what did he do wrong?

He killed people who opposed the goverment, but isn't every government free to make its own rules? Saudi Arabia kills drug dealers, while some countries barely punish them and strongly oppose the death sentence. The sentence depends on where you are.

Most people in the US have heard all the propaganda about him but they don't hear the real story. Where did he get this gas? From the US. What did the US do when all this gassing was occurring? Nothing, we fully supported him at the time. Now, 20 years later we make him out to be a villain for what he did, but the truth is that when he was doing it, it didn't really bother us.

Yeah, Rumsfeld makes it sound like Saddam is this mean enemy and how he hates what he did. Did you ever wonder what he thought when it was actually happening?

Hence my post, but you're wasting time on a crowd who believes everything the Bush administration tells them...

Keep this in P&N.

Meh... people hated him way before the Bush regime. Just because he bought the gas from us doesn't mean it was okay for him to murder those people. Just because you didn't hear it plastered on the news that we discouraged him from doing so and stopped selling him chemical weapons doesn't mean we didn't.

Got any proof that we stopped before the end of the Iranian-Iraq war?

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Where is the Saddam airplane-pencil website? 😀 NYERMMMM

Paper, rock, Saddam.

"Okay fine, I'm not playing anymore. There is no TIGER HAND and there is no PEN MISSILE. You're just MAKING SHI!T UP"

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Doboji


Yeah no question.... that post was pathetic as hell... but I still disagree with your premise that we have no room to criticize because of our(collective) wrong doings of the past.... I think we have every right to criticize.

-Max

I think the US is a very dirty player. There are lots of things that the government hides from us, mostly involving dealings with other countries.

The version of the story you hear from our government largely depends on the country's standing with us at the moment. Who we regard as our friends solely depends on what if any use the US has for them at the moment.

Lately, you've been hearing about how bad Saddam is. To support the contention that he's bad, we bring up the fact that he gassed his own people. But what you don't hear is how we supported Iraq when this was going on. The gassing of his people didn't bother us, since it didn't involve us. All we cared about is that Iraq was fighting a war against Iran, which was supported by the Soviet Union. A few years previously, Iran was a friend of ours. But after a US-unfriendly government took over, we supported Iraq's gassing of them. Iran and Iraq were pawns. We supplied them with the poison gas that they used on Iran and the Kurds.

We knew for a long time that Iraq tended to attack its neighbors. As long as those neighbors were a current US enemy, we did not care. But the moment that they attacked a US ally like Kuwait (who is a friend because of their cheap oil), Iraq became an enemy and our government used Iraq's gassing of their own people as propaganda. Propaganda is important to a government because it rallies its people behind its cause. But it's rarely ever the true story.

We know for a long time that Iraq tended to attack

Who?

Kuwait I give you

Iran? Go back about 4-5 years and see the part where the Shah has a bunch of military toys and uses them on a weaker neigbhor to the west and takes some land away from the country.
Can Iraq do much then? Nope. But later when it is stronger does it try to do something? Yeah.