Sad times. (*Warning* Possible Wall of Text*)

[grrl]

For me it is. I down a Winco chocolate chip muffin every freaking morning for breakfast and that fills me quite easily. Some days I can't even eat the whole thing because I get sick from it. If I have trouble downing a 350 calorie muffin, then I probably am going to have way more trouble with a 1k+ burrito...

It's just the truth... If I try to stuff my face then I get diarrhea every time. (And I mean, every time...)

Maybe you should try to eat real food instead of shit.

 

[clamum]

God I love these whiny ass bitch threads. Whenever I'm feeling bad I can always click one and think "Goddamn, at least I'm not that fucking huge of a failure".

 

[Kirby]

Computer Science isn't the best career path in this day and age.
India and China are willing to do everything for much cheaper.
The only jobs left to Americans are hardware people (desktop/server admins), and there are only so many of those jobs to go around.

There is always the military. They can find something for you to do.

CS isn't too bad if:

1. You have experience, i.e. co-op or internship
2. You're not a code monkey

The military is great, that's who I work for.

 

[chusteczka]

It is hard work to survive life. Six years in the military as a submarine mechanic working 90 hour weeks for $15k/year while out at sea more than 9 months of the year proved this to me. You will see how difficult it is to survive life when you move out of the home your parents are protecting you with. At some point, you will need to provide for yourself. At this point, you will realize you have a few options.

• Acquire a college education to provide an easy life for yourself and possibly a family.
• Learn a skill or trade that allows you to work in the lower levels of a white collar job.
• Learn a skill or trade that allows you to work at a blue collar job.
• Go without marketable skills and live life as a janitor, mopping other people's floors and cleaning up after other people.
• Do not work at all and live as a bum on the street.
• Give up and die.

How you live life is your decision. Life appears to be too easy for you right now so you have not had to toughen yourself up to it yet. It seems you are being overprotected by your parents. You either work hard now to earn that education or you will work hard later cleaning up after other people.

I worked several years picking up garbage, mopping and waxing floors, cleaning work spaces, and cleaning oil out of the bilge. Now I walk into an office as an intellectual asset. Other people clean up after me. If I want something, other people get it for me. I am empowered to negotiate my own salary and get what I ask for. This change in my lifestyle was enable by the education I worked hard to achieve. I worked hard to achieve this education because I did not want to continue cleaning up after other people and fixing machinery. I wanted more for myself in my life.

You are too soft, too weak. If you do not toughen up and work hard to get what you want, you might not make it.

Think of the term "work" for a moment. It involves difficulty, effort, and the strength to get through it. Work is not easy, it is hard. Work will take your time, your energy, and your mental focus. It takes hard, focused, energy to work your way through an education. However, that education will allow you to live a better life. The choice is yours, as it is for everyone.

 

[alkemyst]

You can't compare a crappy military job to others.

What is your current job?

You are claiming you are the man yet describing yourself as a martyr. It usually doesn't work that way.

 

[jackace]

Oh, you misunderstood. I graduated in May, so I have a job in that range already (my major had a 90%+ job placement rate...). If you talk to most CS/BIT majors actually about their post-graduation plans it's like there isn't even a recession on. Kind of bizarre really. I was just trying to say the job market for these majors isn't as bad as all that.

Edit: I didn't have too much previous job experience (it was there though), but I did have a rockin' GPA.

Wow you did very good, and congratulations. Landing a System Administration/Engineering job and being given servers to manage just doesn't happen here without at least a year experience doing it. Like I said in my other post most people start at something like system support (helping the admins/engineers and dbas) or help desk and then receive training while doing that job and move up in a year or 2.

Edit - forgot many people around here also start in desktop support before moving to server support.

 

[timosyy]

Wow you did very good, and congratulations. Landing a System Administration/Engineering job and being given servers to manage just doesn't happen here without at least a year experience doing it. Like I said in my other post most people start at something like system support (helping the admins/engineers and dbas) or help desk and then receive training while doing that job and move up in a year or 2.

Edit - forgot many people around here also start in desktop support before moving to server support.

The more cynical view is that companies are letting go of all their more expensive employees and picking up cheap college labor to fill the positions. But hey, the salary seems more than fair for me coming out so I'm not complaining.

Seriously guys, if I don't understand almost any of the review on the first day... I'm going to get raped. I'm not going to set myself up for failure.

This has been said before, but this quote exactly is what everyone in this thread is talking about. Thinking like this is how you are setting yourself up for failure. Don't drop the class on the first day because you don't remember the stuff on the review... Take the review you failed, find a tutor (most community colleges have free ones), go over the material, and learn it again. You've learned it in the past, it will be easy to pick up. You can do this while staying in the class, and you'll probably catch up within the first week or two.

Stop giving up so early, treat school with the respect it deserves, realize you will fail at times (sometimes often), and redouble your efforts.

 

[Xed]

 

[jackace]

This has been said before, but this quote exactly is what everyone in this thread is talking about. Thinking like this is how you are setting yourself up for failure. Don't drop the class on the first day because you don't remember the stuff on the review... Take the review you failed, find a tutor (most community colleges have free ones), go over the material, and learn it again. You've learned it in the past, it will be easy to pick up. You can do this while staying in the class, and you'll probably catch up within the first week or two.

Stop giving up so early, treat school with the respect it deserves, realize you will fail at times (sometimes often), and redouble your efforts.

What he said.

 

[Zebo]

It is hard work to survive life. Six years in the military as a submarine mechanic working 90 hour weeks for $15k/year while out at sea more than 9 months of the year proved this to me. You will see how difficult it is to survive life when you move out of the home your parents are protecting you with. At some point, you will need to provide for yourself. At this point, you will realize you have a few options.

• Acquire a college education to provide an easy life for yourself and possibly a family.
• Learn a skill or trade that allows you to work in the lower levels of a white collar job.
• Learn a skill or trade that allows you to work at a blue collar job.
• Go without marketable skills and live life as a janitor, mopping other people's floors and cleaning up after other people.
• Do not work at all and live as a bum on the street.
• Give up and die.

How you live life is your decision. Life appears to be too easy for you right now so you have not had to toughen yourself up to it yet. It seems you are being overprotected by your parents. You either work hard now to earn that education or you will work hard later cleaning up after other people.

I worked several years picking up garbage, mopping and waxing floors, cleaning work spaces, and cleaning oil out of the bilge. Now I walk into an office as an intellectual asset. Other people clean up after me. If I want something, other people get it for me. I am empowered to negotiate my own salary and get what I ask for. This change in my lifestyle was enable by the education I worked hard to achieve. I worked hard to achieve this education because I did not want to continue cleaning up after other people and fixing machinery. I wanted more for myself in my life.

You are too soft, too weak. If you do not toughen up and work hard to get what you want, you might not make it.

Think of the term "work" for a moment. It involves difficulty, effort, and the strength to get through it. Work is not easy, it is hard. Work will take your time, your energy, and your mental focus. It takes hard, focused, energy to work your way through an education. However, that education will allow you to live a better life. The choice is yours, as it is for everyone.

Or you can just have 6 kids, get on the dole, fuck till noon, do drugs all day, party all night while tools like you are too busy to enjoy finer things in life. You are prolly too busy, stressed or taxed too much to have kids.

 

[chusteczka]

You can't compare a crappy military job to others.

What is your current job?

You are claiming you are the man yet describing yourself as a martyr. It usually doesn't work that way.

Let's keep this in perspective. I am just another IT worker sitting in a cubicle. However, it took a huge amount of effort to get this position. My life is now comfortable while I sit in an air-conditioned office in a plush chair working as a knowledge worker rather than a mechanic busting my knuckles and cleaning the bilge. I put my garbage in the can and someone else other than me empties it at the end of the day. That used to be me emptying the garbage in the officer's staterooms and serving their food on the messdecks. The difference in my lifestyle is huge due to the education I earned. Sometimes these lifestyle differences need to be explained to kids raised comfortably in the suburbs, protected by their parents. Otherwise, some kids do not understand what they have been given, the amount of work it took their parents to give it to them, and the amount of work they need to put into their education to maintain their spoiled lifestyle.

My previous job was an Oracle database programmer in the Risk Management sector of Insurance working for the #1 risk management information systems company. I was in a position where I was about to move into my manager's recently vacated position but I decided to leave this position last October to pursue my own business making products out of patents that I co-own. While in school, my ex-father in law and I were working on ideas and submitting patent applications. Some of these applications were awarded patents. I have currently have four patents with two applications under consideration. Further ideas, maybe 2-3, are waiting for the time to put the application together. Now that my divorce has settled, my ex-father in law is my business partner and we are working together again. We will finally have the prototype of our first product ready in the next few months and will hopefully be selling it by September. At that point, we will then start putting together the prototype of our second product. We have four or five different product ideas, it takes time learning business and putting these ideas into a product.

My life is not simple or easy by any means. My brother tells me I am living the bachelor dream but I remain bitter and unhappy after my divorce. However, the education I worked hard to achieve provides me with the comfort of a meager financial cushion to leave one job to build another. My education also provides me the comfort of knowing that I can consult temporarily to earn some extra money or even return to the workforce should my business venture not work.

This is a huge change I have made from an enlisted submarine mechanic to a knowledge worker to a managing partner of my own (unproven) business. It took much work and effort to qualify in submarine warfare and it took even more effort to obtain my engineering degree. School was not easy for me by any means. I could not handle more than a 12-13 credit hour load and the university CS classes kicked my ass. That is the whole point that I am trying to commmunicate to a lost kid that does not understand the importance of working hard to get what you want in life.


And for Zebo, I am doing what I can. I am not the most qualified guy in an office, my personal life remains in rebuild mode after my divorce three years ago, and I would like to have kids someday but that will require relaxing my bitterness enough to enjoy a woman's company again. For now, I look forward and work towards my goals while taking the time to exercise and enjoy what I can from life.

But this is also what Trident needs to understand, life is not easy for anyone. Life takes continuous hard work and effort to survive. It is my hope that my examples and discussion may help him in his situation. That is all.

 

[TridenT]

It seems I have to move sooner than I thought. I'll be moving just before the beginning of next year (December 2010). I have to enroll in a community college up where I am going. I have to then take some courses there that are not offered at the college I am currently going to.

I have to take a comp sci class, a math class, and a chem class when up there for winter term. For spring term I have to take a math class(calc III), another math class(linear algebra), and a comp sci class.

I hope they have good free tutoring centers up at the college I will be going to. :| It all seems very troublesome.

I'm already going to probably be taking Calc I, engr class, and chem class when here. :\ Kinda blows...

Looking at dah schedule I have to make, I might take a less difficult/less-likely-to-fail route

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

Even the dumbest people don't drop on the first day if they meet the prereqs. You usually have a couple weeks to drop a class for free, in which time you might find you remember more than you think or discover that the professor is especially easy... or any number of other factors that might allow you to succeed. Did you at least drop into another course?

 

[oiprocs]

Yeah but what do you expect with a 2.4GPA with that many major changes and that much time? I'm not ragging on you, I've also taken the road less traveled, and that's why I know that you set yourself up for disaster by taking extra years and having major changes without an impressive, cohesive "winner's tale" story behind it.

I don't expect anything at all, LOL. Intelligent or not, 2.4 stands out like a thorn.

I figure I only have two options: keep pushing for engineering and hope that someone takes a flier on me, or pick a different field. I have 3 years of experience (not all in same area) so I'm not completely fucked. If I had no work experience and a shitty GPA, then yeah, I'd be starting this thread.

I'll let you know in six months how things are going.

 

[chusteczka]

It seems I have to move sooner than I thought. I'll be moving just before the beginning of next year (December 2010). I have to enroll in a community college up where I am going. I have to then take some courses there that are not offered at the college I am currently going to.

...

This sounds like a good plan. The environment in a community college encourages struggling students. In many ways, it is easier to learn in a community college than it is in the university.

If you focus and work hard at the community college, you may find success and this will increase your self esteem, this will further increase your drive to succeed.

Now quit looking at the disadvantages of the situation and focus on the advantages.

 

[duragezic]

This is a about a lot more than dropping a math class (even though that is pretty sad). You blame all you want but you are not motivated and have no work ethic. Because you can simply sit in your room on your computer and sulk all day because there is nothing to make you not. You get free money and everything provided for you, so why should you have to do anything that would take effort? For fucks sake, your sig makes it sound like you're happy to be a pussy.

I'm not an example of some hugely hard working, dedicated successful person, but jesus you just refuse to do anything that might be difficult.

Of course, why am I typing this when you have proved to us over several YEARS that you don't follow any good advice given to you?

 

[Mike Gayner]

Fuck Trident, you're going to have a hard time in the real world.

 

[roguerower]

Here's a quick easy solution to your gym problem:

1. Go online (pretty easy since you never leave, apparently not even to study)
2. Google P90x (yea, not as great as a personalized routine, but for this kid it would do wonders)
3. Buy P90x
4. Complete P90x
5. Image problem solved

Oh, and stop whining. Or join the military. You seem to lack any form of self-discipline.

 

[JM Aggie08]

My last semester's schedule would have fucked your world up if you're concerned about these basic courses.