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S939 A64 X2 4400+ $256.99 shipped 2-day plus free AOE3

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slashbinslashbash

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S939 4400+, $255 + $1.99 2-day FedEx shipping

It doesn't mention the free Age of Empires 3 anywhere on the site, but it showed up in my cart when I checked out. I was very pleasantly surprised.

This is the best deal I could find on the 4400+. Other places (TigerDirect) are $250 with $8 shipping which ends up being more total, plus they didn't have AOE3. Most places don't have the 4400+ in stock at all, and some (like NewEgg) didn't lower prices on the 4400+.

I would assume that the 3800+ and 4600+ on ZZF would also get free AOE3.

S939 4600+, $260
S939 3800+, $165

BTW for those considering a 4800+ the cheapest place is TigerDirect at $310 + shipping.

edit: sorry, I forgot to mention these were 939....
 
How much of a difference is there between the Manchester core (4600+) and the Toledo core (4400+)? I see the Toledo core has twice the cache...is there any other enhancements? The 4600+ almost seems like a better deal because you get 2.4Ghz out of the box for $5 more...

What is the diference in o/c potential between these two cores?
 
I chose the 4400+ because of the 1MB cache. You can definitely overclock a 4400+ to 4800+ speeds, but you can't over-cache a 4600+ to the 2MB of a 4800+ 😉

Really though, it was a very tough decision for me. I looked at tons of stuff and I couldn't find anything that made a clear case for the 4400+ over the 4600+ or vice-versa (at least nothing that assums that they're the same price... all the old analysis was looking at the 4400+ being substantially cheaper than the 4600+). I was also very interested in the 4800+ at $310.

I think that in terms of absolute top speed (after overclocking) the 4600+ is probably better. It will probably reach 2.6GHz, maybe 2.8GHz, while the 4400+ probably won't reach 2.8GHz and might not even hit 2.6. Actually the larger cache is somewhat of a detriment to overclocking (think back to the Celeron 300 days).

I guess that what finally tipped me to the 4400+ was that they are discontinued. If (for whatever reason) I later decide to get a 4600+, it will be easy to find and maybe even cheaper than they are now. Finding a 4400+ will be hard once the stocks run out, and if I do find one then chances are it will cost more than $255. Newegg is still selling them for $455.
 
Originally posted by: wmansfield
Mwave still has them all beat at $153.47 for the 939 X2 3800

S939 X2 3800
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If you add 2-day shipping then Mwave only has a $1.52 advantage

Edit: But I did order from Mwave due to the couple of dollars saved when I bundled it with the motherboard I wanted.
 
Originally posted by: slashbinslashbash
I chose the 4400+ because of the 1MB cache. You can definitely overclock a 4400+ to 4800+ speeds, but you can't over-cache a 4600+ to the 2MB of a 4800+ 😉

Really though, it was a very tough decision for me. I looked at tons of stuff and I couldn't find anything that made a clear case for the 4400+ over the 4600+ or vice-versa (at least nothing that assums that they're the same price... all the old analysis was looking at the 4400+ being substantially cheaper than the 4600+). I was also very interested in the 4800+ at $310.

I think that in terms of absolute top speed (after overclocking) the 4600+ is probably better. It will probably reach 2.6GHz, maybe 2.8GHz, while the 4400+ probably won't reach 2.8GHz and might not even hit 2.6. Actually the larger cache is somewhat of a detriment to overclocking (think back to the Celeron 300 days).

I guess that what finally tipped me to the 4400+ was that they are discontinued. If (for whatever reason) I later decide to get a 4600+, it will be easy to find and maybe even cheaper than they are now. Finding a 4400+ will be hard once the stocks run out, and if I do find one then chances are it will cost more than $255. Newegg is still selling them for $455.
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Thanks for the reply. I have heard that in real world usage, the extra cache doesn't really make too much of a difference...other than in benchmarks. I thought the Toledo core was newer than the Manchester...or do I have it reversed?
 
Originally posted by: ItsAlive
Whats the difference between the ADV4400CDBOX and the ADA4400CDBOX?
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Good question...

Google knows!

It seems that the ADA has a TDP of 110W while the ADV has a TDP of 89W, while the ADA actually has lower temperature ratings (49-65 vs. 49-71 for the ADV).

So I guess the ADV is a more power efficient chip, but for some reason it's also rated for higher temps. Interesting. If I had known that, I might have chosen the ADV.

ADV $260 at ZZF
 
I ordered a new X2 4600 from outpost today for $249 shipped. That was the best deal I was able to find. I called and they are currently out of stock (like everyone else), but are getting in a shipment in a few days.

As for Conroe, I would have considered switching to it more but for the lack of motherboards that support it. There are only about 8 right now, and 6 of them are over $200, the other (Biostar) I wasn't able to find anywhere, and the Asrock 775Dual-Vista is really an older board and lacking in some things. Conroe will be good in when more MBs support it. I figure by next year I might be ready to switch.
 
Originally posted by: slashbinslashbash
Originally posted by: ItsAlive
Whats the difference between the ADV4400CDBOX and the ADA4400CDBOX?
Click to expand...

Good question...

Google knows!

It seems that the ADA has a TDP of 110W while the ADV has a TDP of 89W, while the ADA actually has lower temperature ratings (49-65 vs. 49-71 for the ADV).

So I guess the ADV is a more power efficient chip, but for some reason it's also rated for higher temps. Interesting. If I had known that, I might have chosen the ADV.

ADV $260 at ZZF
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I wonder if the lower power consumption will allow for better overclocking results...

 
tried buying a s939 X2 3800+ but AOE3 was no where to be seen? Anyone able to see it in their cart during checkout? Or am i too late? Thx.
 
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