S-l-o-w bootup

[Googer]

Originally posted by: UnheardEcho
Googer, could you possibly provide me with a quick walk-through of what to do in bootvis, I'm not really sure what to do. Also, does anyone know what to do with the Ultimate Boot CD files, I can't find an ISO image, and that's the only one that there aer tutorials for. Right now I just have a bunch of files that I don't know what to do with.

The Ultimate boot CD is an ISO image, you open it with Nero or Easy CD Creator. Download the ZIP file and inside of that you will find the ISO. ZIP files are opened with WinZIP.

Click here to Download the Ultimate Boot CD

Sory, I am not very good at tutroials and do not have an XP machine nearby (win 2000) to give an acurate help. Just run a driver trace and optimization 3 or 4 times, BootVIS will graph what driver loads and when during the boot process. IF you cannot get it to work, then don't worry about it.

 

[Googer]

http://www.911cd.net/index.html

 

[UnheardEcho]

I got some help over at the DFI Forums regarding my memory. I saw that the UBCD is supposed to be an iso image, but I ddin't find any ISOs in the zip as the tutorial showed, Ill look into it again.

 

[bocamojo]

If you don't have anything critical on your system, I would reinstall XP. I had some similar issues on a P4 system I had, and once I reinstalled everything, it ran great. Seems that over time things just got out of whack. Too much junk installed I guess. As for BootVis, just click on the Trace menu item and select "optimize system". It will reboot your PC and try to setup the drivers to load in a more optimal fashion (believe it also involves moving some files around on the hard disk, but it happens in the background). If that doesn't speed things up, then the reinstall is definitely your best bet.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: UnheardEcho
Just ran memtest

What I did see, though, was that for tests 5 and 7 there 372 and 371 errors, respectively.

No-one else sees this and says "bad RAM"?

 

[UnheardEcho]

I figured that many meant something. Would you say bad enough to warrant getting an RMA, or is it something that may be fixable on my end? On my mobo forums someone said unless I was running real good RAM I shouldnt fill all three slots as they are now, and that it could negatively affect my performance.

 

[UnheardEcho]

Each stick in Dimm 1 gets no errors and runs fine, the origianl stick and either one of the sticks from teh 1 gig kit run fine when teh old is in Dimm 1 and the other is in Dimm 2. yet to test the 1 gig kit by itself, or the original stick in dimm 2. Hoping original stick in Dimm 1 and other two in 2+3 will work.

 

[Gerbil333]

Originally posted by: UnheardEcho
Would you say bad enough to warrant getting an RMA, or is it something that may be fixable on my end? .

Anything > 0 is enough to warrant an RMA. I can run any of my machines 24x7 and not get a single error.

 

[winterlude]

Ausm gave a lot of good advice. Have you tried it all?

Here are some other options:

See if it still takes ages to boot to safe mode. If so, you probably have a hardware problem. If not, then it is likely software (read: virus or adware) or drivers.

What you are talking about sounds like a boot virus to me. Each time you reboot, it seems that your system is becoming further crippled... the classic sign of a boot virus.

Is your anti virus up to date? Even so, it might be crippled by the virus. Try an online one like Housecalls.

Once you are sure that it is not a virus, try some of these others proceedures:

Have you tried a registry checking program like registry mechanic?
Is your hard drive defragged with Diskeeper?
Have you run adaware or some other ad remover?


In terms of more fundamental diagnostics,
Double check to make sure that your virtual memory is enabled.

Reinstall your video drivers, or an older version that proved to be stable.

One last consideration: Are you overclocking? If so, your system could be over heating. Hot components could cause many of the problems you've mentioned. When's the last time you've vacuumed/ air blasted the inside of your box for dust?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: hippotautamus
I had a similar problem to yours, though I don't believe it was for the same reason.

I fried one of my HDDs (alcohol + computer=nono) and had to RMA it. While it was away, I installed my OS onto my secondary HDD. It booted ridiculously slowly, even for an old 5400 RPM HD.

When I got my 160 back, I plugged it in and even without doing anything to it, it booted faster.

As it turned out, I had the old one that I was booting from jumpered as slave w/ master present, so it was constantly looking for a master drive (which wasnt there). If you've changed your drive config lately, you may be having a similar problem.

That's fraud and RMA ABUSE, you should be more of a man and fess up to the fact that you broke your HDD yourself. And you should be the one that pays for it not The manufacturer and the consumer who will end up paying more than is necessary for a new drive becase you are such a looser.

Also the system Specs in your signature are not real. I can prove it
Pentium MMX @ 66mhz
32mb PC100 SDRAM
800mb ATA IDE HDD
1x CD-ROM
1mb 2d video accelerator
15 bod modem
Windows for Workgroups 2.1

There is no windows for workgroups 2.1 only 3.11 windows 3.10 was the non workgroups version

PC 100 was not yet invented and early Pentiums used EDO and FPM (Flash Page Mode) RAM. Syncronuos Ram was not avalable untill the first 200mhz chips came out and ran at 66mhz only

Your 1x CD rom I might believe, but most of the new drives coming out at that time were 4x
the First MMX chips ran at 166mhz to 233mhz

way to go noob (of 9 posts)

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: UnheardEcho
I got some help over at the DFI Forums regarding my memory. I saw that the UBCD is supposed to be an iso image, but I ddin't find any ISOs in the zip as the tutorial showed, Ill look into it again.

As I said before and I will repeat it again as well as provide the same link twice on the same page for you
ftp://wired.s6n.com/ubcd/ubcd32-basic.zip

This zip file has the iso image inside of it. DOWNLOAD WINZIP TO EXTRACT THE ISO, THERE IS ONLY ONE FILE INSIDE OF THIS ZIP.

 

[gwag]

sounds like DMA errors check you cable try a diffent one, s or sounds crazy go into the device manager and out the boot drive in pio mode, better yet boot in safe mode does it boot up faster?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: gwag
sounds like DMA errors check you cable try a diffent one, s or sounds crazy go into the device manager and out the boot drive in pio mode, better yet boot in safe mode does it boot up faster?

Very good point but why would you want to boot the drive in PIO? It's the older legacy version of Modern Day DMA. Set the BIOS to choose these settings Automaticly for the best compatabilty between you drive and motherboard/PC. The only trade off is 2 seconds of extra time for boot
Also check to see if all of your Chipset Drivers have been installed. Intel Chipsets require two seperate installations:
[*] 1) Intel DMA Drivers- A.K.A. Intel Application Accelerator
[*] 2) Intel INF Software- It's the driver that controlls the AGP, PCI, Memory, IDE, and All other North and South Bridge functions.

You have an nVIDIA Chipset and should have some similar drivers. Make sure that ALL of them are installed.
http://download1.nvidia.com/Windows/nFo...e/6.53/nForce_6.53_WinXP2K_english.exe

 

[gwag]

Originally posted by: Googer


Very good point but why would you want to boot the drive in PIO?

just to see if it boots reasonably fast. if he is in fact having some kind of signaling problem.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: gwag

Originally posted by: Googer


Very good point but why would you want to boot the drive in PIO?

just to see if it boots reasonably fast. if he is in fact having some kind of signaling problem.

PIO is s-l-o-w, only DMA modes 3,4,5 require an 80 wire cable. He can easly operate his drive in DMA modes 0,1, or 2 with a 40 wire cable. Your advice makes little sence to this little techie, since PIO would slow his computer down.

But thanks for the IDEA of it possible being DMA related.

 

[hippotautamus]

That's fraud and RMA ABUSE, you should be more of a man and fess up to the fact that you broke your HDD yourself. And you should be the one that pays for it not The manufacturer and the consumer who will end up paying more than is necessary for a new drive becase you are such a looser.

I was kidding.

There is no windows for workgroups 2.1 only 3.11 windows 3.10 was the non workgroups version

PC 100 was not yet invented and early Pentiums used EDO and FPM (Flash Page Mode) RAM. Syncronuos Ram was not avalable untill the first 200mhz chips came out and ran at 66mhz only

Your 1x CD rom I might believe, but most of the new drives coming out at that time were 4x
the First MMX chips ran at 166mhz to 233mhz

way to go noob (of 9 posts)

You must be the most astute person on the planet.
Moron.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: hippotautamus

There is no windows for workgroups 2.1 only 3.11 windows 3.10 was the non workgroups version

PC 100 was not yet invented and early Pentiums used EDO and FPM (Flash Page Mode) RAM. Syncronuos Ram was not avalable untill the first 200mhz chips came out and ran at 66mhz only

Your 1x CD rom I might believe, but most of the new drives coming out at that time were 4x
the First MMX chips ran at 166mhz to 233mhz

way to go noob (of 9 posts)

You must be the most astute person on the planet.
Moron.

How is that so? Because I remember this stuff very well? Huh?

 

[hippotautamus]

No, for picking up on all of my blatantly obvious "mistakes". What are you, retarded?
Enough thread crapping lol

 

[UnheardEcho]

Googer, I'm aware of what to do with the ISO and all, but of the three iterations of the UBCD I've downloaded, none have had an ISO inside them. Ill try downloading the specific one you provided, and Ill try opening iwth winzip specifically, as Ive been using winrar if that makes a difference.

 

[Googer]

Well, I Downloaded the link included in this thread twice and both of them had the iso inside the zip file. There is another kind that you can download and it's an executible file. This executible will create the ISO image to what ever folder the EXE is saved to, so I recommend saving the exe on your desktop and running it from there. After it has finished running it will have left behind the iso.

Try this one instead
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://wired.s6n.com/ubcd/ubcd32-basic.exe">ftp://wired.s6n.com/ubcd/ubcd32-basic.exe</a>

PS I dont mean to be condescending but do you know what a ZIP file is?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: hippotautamus
No, for picking up on all of my blatantly obvious "mistakes". What are you, retarded?
Enough thread crapping lol

Obviosly not so retarded that I am so easily fooled into thinking you actualy own or have ever used such a system.

 

[UnheardEcho]

Googer, I do know what a zip file is. Ill try the link you provided shortly. Like I said, I used WinRAR, would using this instead of WinZIP specifically change my results?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: UnheardEcho
Googer, I do know what a zip file is. Ill try the link you provided shortly. Like I said, I used WinRAR, would using this instead of WinZIP specifically change my results?

That might be your problem, I am using Winzip 9 and It has a few special compression modes that are not found on earlier versions and can only be read by winzip.