S-IPS LCDs at 1920X1440 19" or 2048X1536 20" size?

[fleabag]

I'm looking for an LCD with a really high DPI because I enjoy the high density in pixels, the problem is i'm having trouble finding displays that refresh quickly. I've found this calculator for DPI and it seems to be pretty good.
http://www.thirdculture.com/jo.../hardware/ppicalc.html

It shows me that a 1920X1200 24" display isn't really that much more sharp than my 1280X1024 19" (18.1 viewable) display. My laptop is 1400X1050 at 15" which has a higher pixel density than any desktop display I can find. If I can find a fast LCD with 0.22mm DPI or better, I'd be much happier.

I'd also be interested in an S-IPS 1600X1200 17"/19" LCD.

I'm starting to wonder if I can even get a 1600X1200 17"/19" LCD, these companies hate people with decent vision.

 

[qbfx]

I guess your a 4:3/5:4 fan that enjoys screwing his eyes up just joking, sorry man, can't help you

 

[fleabag]

bump

 

[toadeater]

What you're asking for is very expensive. Do you realize how much a good 1600x1200 IPS panel costs?

http://www.necdisplay.com/Prod...48f3-8576-7c182c700a74

The 20" Apple Cinema Display is about $600, if you're willing to settle for a lesser resolution IPS panel that's not insanely priced.

Beware of Dell and Samsung though, they've been switching panels on their monitors without notice, so you might not get quite what you paid for.

 

[IlllI]

dell used to sell a 20 in 1600x1200 ips lcd display. not sure if they discontinued it or replaced it with something else. they were around $300 from what i remember

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: clandren
dell used to sell a 20 in 1600x1200 ips lcd display. not sure if they discontinued it or replaced it with something else. they were around $300 from what i remember

yea that was the dell 2001FP but I want a 19" or 17" display. If I could be guaranteed that it was high resolution and S-IPS, cost wouldn't matter.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: toadeater
What you're asking for is very expensive. Do you realize how much a good 1600x1200 IPS panel costs?

http://www.necdisplay.com/Prod...48f3-8576-7c182c700a74

The 20" Apple Cinema Display is about $600, if you're willing to settle for a lesser resolution IPS panel that's not insanely priced.

Beware of Dell and Samsung though, they've been switching panels on their monitors without notice, so you might not get quite what you paid for.

NEC has discontinued them, but if you can still find one a LCD2070NX is a 20" 1600x1200 S-IPS panel that should go for $400 or so.

 

[IlllI]

yea that was the dell 2001FP but I want a 19" or 17" display. If I could be guaranteed that it was high resolution and S-IPS, cost wouldn't matter.

there is no 17 or 19 in s-ips of that size or resolution. you only choice is 20in (or larger).

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: clandren

yea that was the dell 2001FP but I want a 19" or 17" display. If I could be guaranteed that it was high resolution and S-IPS, cost wouldn't matter.

there is no 17 or 19 in s-ips of that size or resolution. you only choice is 20in (or larger).

AFAIK, this is indeed correct.

20" 1600x1200 is a hell of a small pixel pitch...don't think it should be an issue, since you don't want to be nearly as close as you would be to your notebook screen.

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: clandren

yea that was the dell 2001FP but I want a 19" or 17" display. If I could be guaranteed that it was high resolution and S-IPS, cost wouldn't matter.

there is no 17 or 19 in s-ips of that size or resolution. you only choice is 20in (or larger).

AFAIK, this is indeed correct.

20" 1600x1200 is a hell of a small pixel pitch...don't think it should be an issue, since you don't want to be nearly as close as you would be to your notebook screen.

I can read my 15" 1400X1050 notebook screen at minimum brightness at the same distance as my desktop monitor (around 3ft) so I've come to the conclusion that I want a display with a pixel density slightly higher than 0.2177 and a 20" 1600X1200 screen at 0.2553 just is too big. I said 19"/17" at that resolution because I want a high pixel density, Anything under 25" with a pixel density in my range would be fine.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: clandren

yea that was the dell 2001FP but I want a 19" or 17" display. If I could be guaranteed that it was high resolution and S-IPS, cost wouldn't matter.

there is no 17 or 19 in s-ips of that size or resolution. you only choice is 20in (or larger).

AFAIK, this is indeed correct.

20" 1600x1200 is a hell of a small pixel pitch...don't think it should be an issue, since you don't want to be nearly as close as you would be to your notebook screen.

I can read my 15" 1400X1050 notebook screen at minimum brightness at the same distance as my desktop monitor (around 3ft) so I've come to the conclusion that I want a display with a pixel density slightly higher than 0.2177 and a 20" 1600X1200 screen at 0.2553 just is too big. I said 19"/17" at that resolution because I want a high pixel density, Anything under 25" with a pixel density in my range would be fine.

Okay, here you go: http://www.amazon.com/IBM-T221...-Monitor/dp/B00006HS5R

I hope you don't mind spending money

Seriously, other than notebook screen or the odd professional imaging displays, there's no such thing.

But good luck.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: clandren

yea that was the dell 2001FP but I want a 19" or 17" display. If I could be guaranteed that it was high resolution and S-IPS, cost wouldn't matter.

there is no 17 or 19 in s-ips of that size or resolution. you only choice is 20in (or larger).

AFAIK, this is indeed correct.

20" 1600x1200 is a hell of a small pixel pitch...don't think it should be an issue, since you don't want to be nearly as close as you would be to your notebook screen.

I can read my 15" 1400X1050 notebook screen at minimum brightness at the same distance as my desktop monitor (around 3ft) so I've come to the conclusion that I want a display with a pixel density slightly higher than 0.2177 and a 20" 1600X1200 screen at 0.2553 just is too big. I said 19"/17" at that resolution because I want a high pixel density, Anything under 25" with a pixel density in my range would be fine.

Okay, here you go: http://www.amazon.com/IBM-T221...-Monitor/dp/B00006HS5R

I hope you don't mind spending money

Seriously, other than notebook screen or the odd professional imaging displays, there's no such thing.

But good luck.

3,840 x 2,400 resolution, 16:10 aspect ratio ... no price given - "unavailable" and not even 16x12

the OP can get a 16x10 20" WS monitor for cheap ... i have one ...

 

[Sheninat0r]

Get a Toughbook, rip out the screen [15.4" 1920x1200] and plug it into your computer

 

[programmer]

Get a used 2001FP from Ebay. They are great monitors and will give you what you want. Small dot pitch and micro-text. Shouldn't be too expensive either.

 

[fleabag]

So are there no panels that are being made to satisfy my needs? It seems like the panels are being made it's just that only a select few are being put into enclosures and sold to the end user.

 

[alcoholbob]

Dell 2001FP was great for it's time but for today's needs it won't cut it. It had really poor text quality on grey backgrounds and even back in it's heyday reviewers noted it's image quality deficiencies. In those days virtually everything was S-IPS, and the Dell 2001FP sported great size, connectivity, height-adjustable stand, and also a fast response time. What people expect today from an S-IPS is far above and beyond what the Dell 2001FP can provide, considering back in the day it was effectively the TN (gamer's version) of S-IPS monitors. Don't get my wrong, the Dell 2001FP was my favorite monitor of all time, but it's really outclassed by today's standards.

Problem is of course, most of the S-IPS monitors these days are not geared at all for the enthusiast or the gamer, so there's a lack of connectivity, height adjustable stand stand, or response times. The NEC 20WGX2 is supposed to be geared towards gamers but it's everything the Dell 2001FP is not in terms of ergonomics. Also, I still have a Dell 2001FP and putting it side by side with an NEC2690wuxi the difference is like heaven and earth, but again, aside from the height-adjustable stand the NEC has nothing on the Dell in terms of ergonomics. It's really sad that there isn't something like the Dell 2001FP available today without going to some kind of insane resolution like 2560x1600.

 

[IlllI]

Originally posted by: fleabag
So are there no panels that are being made to satisfy my needs?

no

It seems like the panels are being made it's just that only a select few are being put into enclosures and sold to the end user.

yes

 

[kmmatney]

Your laptop screen isn't IPS, so perhaps you don't need an IPS screen. I'm pretty sure I once saw an LCD monitor that was a 17" 1920 x 1200 (same as my laptop screen). Can'r find it now, though.

However, here is a 19" LCD with 1650 X 1050 resolution:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009127

pixel size 0.243 mm - the smallest they sell at NewEgg.

 

[Syntax Error]

Widescreen LCDs are predominant now, especially in the notebook market. Standard aspect ratio screens are going to be more and more uncommon as time moves on. Good luck.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: programmer
Get a used 2001FP from Ebay. They are great monitors and will give you what you want. Small dot pitch and micro-text. Shouldn't be too expensive either.

I just picked up a 2007FP from ebay for $325. New.

Looks great, love it better than my old one. Makes me think they switched panels.

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: kmmatney
Your laptop screen isn't IPS, so perhaps you don't need an IPS screen. I'm pretty sure I once saw an LCD monitor that was a 17" 1920 x 1200 (same as my laptop screen). Can'r find it now, though.

However, here is a 19" LCD with 1650 X 1050 resolution:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009127

pixel size 0.243 mm - the smallest they sell at NewEgg.

Are you trying to say that there isn't a single IPS screen for a laptop? I find that hard to believe. Is there a database of what type of LCD screen it is on a given model laptop?

I just found out that my IBM T42 and others have an S-IPS screen, so that pokes a hole in your argument about how I don't have an S-IPS screen anyways.

 

[postmortemIA]

apple's 23" S-IPS is for you

 

[thebeyonder]

I was just thinking the same exact thing. I got a P793, 17" 1600x1200 and I want that in LCD.

or if it's going to be a 20-22" screen, then I want 2048x1536.

I think it's a manufacturing issue. that would be too hard to do for a normal price. just ain't going to happen in the near future.

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: thebeyonder
I was just thinking the same exact thing. I got a P793, 17" 1600x1200 and I want that in LCD.

or if it's going to be a 20-22" screen, then I want 2048x1536.

I think it's a manufacturing issue. that would be too hard to do for a normal price. just ain't going to happen in the near future.

What do you mean a manufacturing issue. IBM has 15" laptops with 1600X1200 screens (you have to specially ask for the 1600X1200 one) so I don't see how manufacturing is an issue. It obviously can be made, it's just that they simply don't care about my needs and the needs of others. If this monitor was properly marketed and had everything an enthusiast could ask for, then I don't see how it could not be a winner.

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: fleabag
Are you trying to say that there isn't a single IPS screen for a laptop? I find that hard to believe. Is there a database of what type of LCD screen it is on a given model laptop?

I think some of the Lenovo models are supposed to have IPS screens. Don't know which ones though.