S@H - Anybody use SETI Gate?

[JHutch]

I was looking through the SETI links page and I came across this program. It seems to indicate that it is possible to cache work units for more than one e-mail ID (unlike SETI Queue, which only allows 1 person per queue). If I'm reading that right, there may be potential here for adding a S@H proxy server to the team site...

My question is, has anybody tried to use it/have anything to say about it?

JHutch

PS I'm gonna try it out on my machine to see what it's like, but I wasn't able to connect to the S@H servers to update or anything, so I have to wait 'til later...

 

[blade47]

I haven't tried it but some of the guys over at OcUK seem to love it. From my understanding after you crunch your first 10 wu's then the next wu you crunch gets credited to the account of the program creator.

I believe they referred to it as crunchware. You pay a one time fee of 1 wu for the right to use the program.

 

[JHutch]

Yeah, I noticed that "crunchware" fee. That's actually a pretty cool idea. If you use their stuff that is an easy payment to make and it makes the author's happy!

For some reason, I can't get SETIGate to update from here at work. It may be a problem going through our firewall (though SETI itself and SETIQueue don't have a problem). I'll play with it a bit more...

JHutch

 

[JHutch]

Blade_47, I'm probably gonna kick myself after you tell me, but what is OcUK? I'm drawing a blank here...

JHutch

 

[Sukhoi]

I believe it's www.overclockers.co.uk

That's a very interesting idea about a team proxy though. Please let us know how it works.

 

[Orange Kid]

JHutch
i dont remember seeing this one
do you have a link
if it is windows i would be interested also

 

[Assimilator1]

Sounds like a cool program
Keep us posted about it.

BTW ref OcUK ,they are a team to watch out for in the future ,they only started out in May & they have now got nearly 400 members!.They don't have the output to catch us though ,yet..........

 

[JHutch]

It seems to be a new addition under the Related Websites link section on the SETI@Home pages. The direct link to SETI Gate is http://gss.myweb.nl/seti/.

I couldn't get it working through the firewall yesterday, but I know the SETI servers were still pretty swamped yesterday, so I'll try again some today. I also want to try from home (no firewall) tonight to see if it works there.

The downside to this will be that if it does work, it will take up a HUGE amount of space on the server to store the WU (about 350k a unit). And these things don't compress any further. One days' worth of WU for our team would take a little over a half a gigabyte of storage... A 3 or 4 day supply would chew up a lot of space...

I'll let you guys (and gals) know how I'm doing with this little experiment...

JHutch

 

[Darkone]

SetiGate is ?Crunchware?, which means that if you are going to use SetiGate on a regular basis it will automaticaly crunch one workunit for the SetiGate seti@home account. This means that you can test the program until you have crunched about 10 workunits. If you use it beyond that we assume that you like the program and will continue to use it. SetiGate will then crunch one workunit for our SetiGate account. Please note that this is done only once!

Looks like you miss ONE work unit and thats it.. once you have submitted that one.. it wont submit anymore..

Could be kinda cool.. Shame its Winblows else I'd set up a TA proxy for people hmm maybe I could do a beta trial tho... I'll see what I can do

 

[DOT4com]

I downloaded SETIgate and am not sure how it works. I run the 3.0 GUI version for Win2K. I set the proxy in my SETI@Home settings to the http server in the settings for SETIgate. Is this right? I read the manual and it said to set the proxy settings to 'localhost port:5001', but when I set it to that, SETI didnt pick up SETIGate and it never connected. Any help would be apreiated. Thanks again

 

[blade47]

JHutch here's a link to OcUk's Forums

Their seti forum used to be pretty slow but as Assim1 said their team is growing very fast. Their forum activity has picked up alot because of the growth. They seem to have a pretty well organized team.

 

[Sukhoi]

DOT4com, from what I know, you can't use the proxy settings in the SETI clients to connect to WU cacheing software if you don't have a NIC installed. If you do have a NIC installed, try using your computer's local IP address rather than just "localhost".

 

[ColinP]

Just been having a mess with SETgate..
Looks pretty straightforward to setup and very versatile...

Only problem is, it wants a permanent internet connection, doesn't like dial-up....
I'll try it tomorrow in work, if my company has blocked the S@H domain name I might be able to get past it by putting in the IP address in SETIgate..



Col

 

[JHutch]

DOT4com,

The other thing to check is that the SETIgate software defaults to serving WU on port 80, but the manuals says to set the SETI software to port 5001. It really doesn't matter which port, it just has to match on both...

So, set your SETI GUI to proxy localhost:5001 and then go into the Options menu in SETIgate and set Localport setting to 5001, too.

This should work.

JHutch

PS I can't get SETIgate to Refresh my user info from here at work. It pulls up team anandtech info no problem, and it ranks me. But that info comes from http pages, not the data server. When it tries to get the data server info (the stuff that is normally stored in user_info.sah, it just comes up with nothing. And until that is updating, SETIgate refuses to try to get any work units...

I'll try from home. Either I'm doing something wrong, or our firewall is defeating me (or possibly I'm having timeouts to the data server).

 

[Assimilator1]

ColinP

Can't you do something like ,disable auto connect?.So for dial ups you'd manually connect?.

 

[Viztech]

Ummmm, don't know if there might be a setting in there for interfaces to connect to. In other words, a single homed (one NIC) ethernet connected machine would have the interface eth0 A second NIC would then be interface eth1 etc.

The dial up interfaces are ppp0, ppp1 etc.

Perhaps there is a setting for the interfaces in the SETI gate .ini file?

The Dnet proxy read.me has a TON of good info that MIGHT be useful. Here is the Dnet proxy download page.

I for one am quite excited about the possibility of seeing some TeAm SETI proxies. When I was running SETI back when, I became a bit frustrated when my clients could not connect with the main SETI server. I realize that SETI Que would have been the solution, but it was a pain nonetheless. This would sure provide another alternative.

BTW, have you folks been able to determine if the SETI Proxy is FIFO, or LIFO?

viz

 

[ColinP]

Ass1,

yeah, you can set it to connect manually, but I won't be able to do that as I won't have access to the machine after Christmas because of my new job...

I installed SETIgate at work and it is working a treat over a proxy with a dial-up ISDN line. But it won't connect through my company proxy... Looks like they blocked all of the SETI IP addresses and DNS names.....

If somebody could set up a T.A. Proxy I would be very grateful



It would take a little bit of maintaining, adding users etc, but whoever did it would be repaid in gratitude !!!

It looks like I'll have to rely on the dial-up proxy.. Trouble is, it's on my desk and in a very vunerable location to attack from the Phantom Kit Stealer/Unplugger/Fiddler/Don't know what that is so I'll turn it off/Manager...




Col

 

[ColinP]

Guys,,

big problem with SETIgate as a T.A. Proxy....

It has a max WU cache of 100 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We would need 10000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless they will change the code to allow a bigger integer we are screwed...



Col

 

[Assimilator1]

Oh well that's 1 option out the window

 

[Sukhoi]

Guys, check out the other thread here. There seem to still be some possibilities.

 

[Hadrien]

Ok I have followed all the instructions in the SETIGate manual and still cant get my SETI@Home GUI client to pcik up from the setigate proxy.....I tried my IP and localhost in the http: portion of the proxy field for the gui client and I set the port in setigate to 5001 and the port in seti@home to 5001 still nothing. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Assimilator1]

Hadrien

I'm afraid I don't have a clue about SETIGate ,but you might find the info you want in the other thread linked in the post above yours

 

[Sukhoi]

Hadrien, if you're just running a local proxy to cache WU's, I'd suggest using SETIQ for a LAN or SETIDriver for a single computer. I think they're easier to setup.

Also I heard someone say that you need to reinstall the client and have it get its first WU from SETI Gate to get it to work right. I guess pre-existing clients may not connect to SETI Gate.

 

[Hadrien]

Awesome! Re-installing worked great.....I mean it kinda suck cuz you lose a WU but now cuz my internet connection goes out all the time I have a GUI cache program that seems pretty kewl and my roomates can all hook up to it too. I tried to get SETIDriver to work but it loced my computer up.

 

[Sukhoi]

I'm glad it worked.