DrMrLordX
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No it will read hotspot as the standard temp readout. Bulk die is meaningless for any AMD CPU on TSMC N7Just for clarity, bulk die == total temp read out, hotspot is individual core readouts?
No it will read hotspot as the standard temp readout. Bulk die is meaningless for any AMD CPU on TSMC N7Just for clarity, bulk die == total temp read out, hotspot is individual core readouts?
Ok, thanks. So when HW Mon reads out 75C, that's just the hottest temp.No it will read hotspot as the standard temp readout. Bulk die is meaningless for any AMD CPU on TSMC N7
Cool, and thanks again (everyone) for responding. I'm gonna see how the 212 evo v2 does, and if I'm not happy, I may splurge on a AIO liquid cooler. I've got two empty 120mm spots that should fit a 240mm rad no problemCorrect. It should also tell you how hard it is to lower temp readings without some form of refridgeration.
I started with air cooler because I'm not a water near my electronics guy 😉. But now I'm just digging thru info on both.Not a huge fan of AiOs unless they're 280mm ones, but the Corsair units should do okay. You may actually get as-good performance out of something like the Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15.
First off, glad you got the NH-D15 working in that case. I had one on my 1800x with two of the above-mentioned fans (running at full 3000 RPM) and it handled heat loads of up to around 200W (I think?) while keeping the CPU below 80C. Granted that was just Zen1 so no AVX2 and less hotspotting, but still. It did the job.I'm also considering coupling this case with some Noctua AF-14 iPPC 3000 Fans, maybe even on the CPU itself. I'm thinking the intake and exhaust fans could be more standard 1400-1700 RPM fans 2 front, 2 rear, and use the high RPM fans on the noctua itself
Good to know. 41.3 decibels shouldn't sound like a jet engine, but I remember in the past how cooling corps like to measure stuffFirst off, glad you got the NH-D15 working in that case. I had one on my 1800x with two of the above-mentioned fans (running at full 3000 RPM) and it handled heat loads of up to around 200W (I think?) while keeping the CPU below 80C. Granted that was just Zen1 so no AVX2 and less hotspotting, but still. It did the job.
Those fans are potentially LOUD. If noise is not an issue or if you want reduced RPMs then go for it. In terms of performance at a given RPM, they are beasts with amazing static pressure. But with two of those things running full tilt on my NH-D15, it was like an airport in here. Also you will need special fan clips (available from Noctua) if you want to use the IndustrialPPC3000 fans on the NH-D15. The are box fans and have different holes for the clips than the round fans that they normally ship for use on HSFs (such as the stock fan(s)).
You'll find out!Good to know. 41.3 decibels shouldn't sound like a jet engine, but I remember in the past how cooling corps like to measure stuff.
I had to contact support and special request them. I did it at the same time that I put in a request for an AM4 compatibility kit since AM4 was pretty new back then.Thanks for the tip on the clips, I'm looking around the Noctua website, but haven't found those clips...yet.
With a fan setup that aggressive on the HSF, as long as the HSF has a good flow path out of the case, there should not be a big issue. Back when I had an NH-D14 + 2 fast fans (a Delta and Nidec Servo, both loud), I was using an old Centurion 5 with the rear grill torn out by wire cutters. The only intake was a desk fan blowing into the side (side panel was removed). Putting on the side case raised CPU temps in that scenario by maybe 2-3C? And that was with heavily overclocked AM2 crap pulling more power for less benefit than your 3700x.Any thoughts on a case upgrade impacting temps?
Cool, thanksYou'll find out!
I had to contact support and special request them. I did it at the same time that I put in a request for an AM4 compatibility kit since AM4 was pretty new back then.
With a fan setup that aggressive on the HSF, as long as the HSF has a good flow path out of the case, there should not be a big issue. Back when I had an NH-D14 + 2 fast fans (a Delta and Nidec Servo, both loud), I was using an old Centurion 5 with the rear grill torn out by wire cutters. The only intake was a desk fan blowing into the side (side panel was removed). Putting on the side case raised CPU temps in that scenario by maybe 2-3C? And that was with heavily overclocked AM2 crap pulling more power for less benefit than your 3700x.
Realistically-speaking, two fans in series like that without a duct will pull over 140cfm from anywhere they darn well please, backed by massive static pressure. Your only risk is re-circulating the same air.
I went with:Reading up on airflow / static pressure, it would probably be a better idea to either put a 3k rpm in the middle spot of d15 plus one in rear exhaust, or 2 3k fans on the d15 and leave the rear spot empty. Anything that doesn't make it out the rear exhaust can get vented out of the top with a fan or two there. Aiming for as little impedance as possible to keep the air moving.
Agreed, I'll run with what I've got and gotta swap to the new case, far more work than swapping a few fans laterBe patient. Those clips may ship from Austria. Could take awhile.
I would use HWinfo over HW monitor, I've never read anything good about HWmon and Ryzen. Ryzen Master will be very accurate. I would use it myself but it still doesn't support any of the APUs for whatever reason.A couple updates:
1. Started using AMD Ryzen Master (will note as RM) to monitor the system. It seems to be more accurate than either CPUID HW Mon or CPU-Z for now. It shows a more fluctuating temp and also clock speed. I dunno what's up, CPU-Z just shows a constat 4049 Mhz clock speed, and HW mon is really slow to update temps. I just happened across RM and so far seems pretty good, no plans to OC at this point.
I mean, HW Mon is *pretty* accurate, but sometimes (like at idle) it's ~5C off from RM. HW Mon says idling at 40C while RM reports 34-35C. Sometimes under load HW Mon says 70C but RM says 67C.
2. Noctua is shipping the clips from Tennessee, so I went ahead and ordered two 140mm 3k rpm noctua's.