Question Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200G or R5 1400 for office systems?

[DeadlyTitan]

So, am looking to purchase 5 ~ 7 new systems for my newly opening office, and am looking at Ryzen 3 1200, 2200G and ryzen 5 1400, anything other than them is strictly out of budget as they cost way too much than am willing to pay for 5 ~ 7 systems, especially 2400g and higher up cpu's.

Most of the time we'll be working with unity and visual studios, but i'd also like to have them have the ability to play some old games with lan play enabled in our free time (games like dungeon siege 2, Titan Quest, dirt, Age of empires, borderlands, War of the Overlord, Rocket league, Space hulk death wing, paladins, Planetside 2) and similar games @ 720p (Note - not a complete list of games we'll play but some games in my head at the moment)

In case of Ryzen 3 1200 and Ryzen 5 1400 i'll get GT 1030 GPU, but i prefer not to add additional expenses, bah what i am saying is i want to know if 2200G is good enough so that i dont need to buy Ryzen 5 1400 + GT 1030, saving some cash on 5 ~ 7 systems as i have other expenses which can use it.

Where i live a

• Ryzen 5 2400G costs - $180
• Ryzen 3 1200 costs - $75
• Ryzen 5 1400 costs - $134
• Ryzen 3 2200G costs - $112
• GT 1030 costs - $96

I'd also like to know if A320M boards are good enough for Ryzen 3 1200, Ryzen 5 1400 and 2200G or should i go for B450M for 2200G ? (yea i wont be overclocking any of them)

Does ryzen 3 2200G benefits from having dual channel memory? since it uses an integrated GPU ?

last but not the least, I dunno how good quadcore cpu's are in this age and time, are they still good for light multiplayer gaming? i mean i will grudgingly go for 2400G if they are not viable but i really rather not, seeing how few the gains are compared to 2200G in games.

Note - non of these will be my main rig since i already got an overpowered personal work station.

Thank you for the time.

 

[jpiniero]

Are you really going to build and support desktops for an office?

 

[DeadlyTitan]

Are you really going to build and support desktops for an office?

Am not sure what that's suppose to mean but ugg yes i suppose? I've been building and upgrading my gaming rigs from the past 12 years so i am pretty good at this stuff and actually enjoy doing that.

 

[Yeroon]

How much of a hurry are you to build these computers? Supposedly the 3400g drops the msrp a little in comparison to the 2400g, and I believe releases at the same time as the rest of the 3000 series chips on july 7th. Both APUs get a clock and L3 increase, as well as higher mem speed support:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14523/amd-ryzen-3000-apus-up-to-vega-11-more-mhz-under-150

 

[DeadlyTitan]

How much of a hurry are you to build these computers? Supposedly the 3400g drops the msrp a little in comparison to the 2400g, and I believe releases at the same time as the rest of the 3000 series chips on july 7th. Both APUs get a clock and L3 increase, as well as higher mem speed support:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14523/amd-ryzen-3000-apus-up-to-vega-11-more-mhz-under-150

Yea i was looking for that, since the release of 3rd gen ryzen is just 2 more weeks, maybe 2200G would get a small price cut, which would make it even more attractive perhaps. I am willing to see where the 3rd gen ryzen will be, i just want to know if 2200G fits my description.

 

[DrMrLordX]

@DeadlyTitan

A320 boards should be "just fine" for the 2200G, especially since you are not overclocking. There might be some advantages to B450 . . . maybe more USB headers? I'd look at the specific board features to see which ones will meet the needs of your intended users. Be advised that A320 boards won't get microcode updates to support Matisse or Renoir. Not sure if they will get support for Picasso.

The 2200G will benefit from dual-channel memory. Don't go single-channel.

 

[coffeemonster]

If you wanted to be more frugal there is also the 2 core 4 thread Athlon 200GE. Would probably be fine for the typical office PC. My work is full of laptops with i3's that get the job done.

 

[scannall]

There are plenty of low priced B450 motherboards out there. I would get that instead of an A320. The 2200g should be fine for your office setup. And yes, dual channel matters. Quite a bit on APU's.

 

[NTMBK]

If you are going to be compiling code on these machines, get more than a quad core. Visual Studio will eat every core you can throw at it.

 

[DeadlyTitan]

Thank you all, I've decided to wait for Ryzen 3000 APU's since their launch is so near but if all else fails and it turns out to be a disappointment then i've decided on the Ryzen 3 2200G.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Most of the time we'll be working with unity and visual studios, but i'd also like to have them have the ability to play some old games with lan play enabled in our free time (games like dungeon siege 2, Titan Quest, dirt, Age of empires, borderlands, War of the Overlord, Rocket league, Space hulk death wing, paladins, Planetside 2) and similar games @ 720p (Note - not a complete list of games we'll play but some games in my head at the moment)

The 2200G shouldn't have any problems with those older titles. Particularly @720p.

Does ryzen 3 2200G benefits from having dual channel memory? since it uses an integrated GPU ?

Tremendously. It's practically mandatory. With current RAM prices, getting two DIMMs shouldn't be too much more expensive for 8GB/16GB.

A320 boards should be "just fine" for the 2200G, especially since you are not overclocking. There might be some advantages to B450 . . . maybe more USB headers? I'd look at the specific board features to see which ones will meet the needs of your intended users. Be advised that A320 boards won't get microcode updates to support Matisse or Renoir. Not sure if they will get support for Picasso.

Some B450-based board are the same price or actually occasionally cheaper then A320 boards here. So pay attention to pricing. If you can get a B450 like that, it's a no-brainer.

If you wanted to be more frugal there is also the 2 core 4 thread Athlon 200GE. Would probably be fine for the typical office PC. My work is full of laptops with i3's that get the job done.

Considering how my local pricing is, you may be able to bump to either the 220 or 240, for a few $ more. But I wouldn't go that low unless forced to it.

(well I would, but that's a different story. Have a 200GE and I quite like it actually.)

Thank you all, I've decided to wait for Ryzen 3000 APU's since their launch is so near but if all else fails and it turns out to be a disappointment then i've decided on the Ryzen 3 2200G.

Be advised the 3000-series APUs are "just" a 12nm version of the current ones. In practice it's a frequency bump and not much else. 7nm APUs are at least a year out.

 

[Yeroon]

Be advised the 3000-series APUs are "just" a 12nm version of the current ones. In practice it's a frequency bump and not much else. 7nm APUs are at least a year out.

Frequency bump, most likely mem speed bump, which will be quite helpful for the igpu bandwidth, and a price drop on the top tier. Worth waiting 2 weeks for I would think. And if nothing else, might lower price on 2000 series apus a little.

 

[moinmoin]

bah what i am saying is i want to know if 2200G is good enough so that i dont need to buy Ryzen 5 1400 + GT 1030

It's good enough.

Everything else is optimization. Definitely get at least some B350/B450 boards, this will allow both overclocking CPU and/or iGPU (moving it close to 2400G respectively) as well as keeps the door open for potential future CPU upgrades. 3200G won't be that interesting (since still 12nm based, but worth waiting for if only for potential price drops for 2200G) but a potential 7nm 4200G APU in a year may well be killer going by all the CPU rumors so far. And as others say for APUs going dual channel is essentially mandatory, more important than memory speed.