RX 480 8GB or 1060 6GB?

Sapphire 480 8GB or Gigabyte Mini 1060 6GB?

  • Sapphire's 480

    Votes: 42 72.4%
  • Gigabytes's 1060

    Votes: 16 27.6%

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SlickR12345

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I'm looking at the Sapphire Nitro+ 480 8GB vs a Gigabyte MINI 1060 6GB.

From what I garnered Nvidia wins majority of the older titles under DX11, there are some games like F1 2016 and Batman Arkham Knight where the 480 wins, but only by few percents. Games like AC Black Flag, Syndicate, Shadow of Mordor, Crysis 3, GTA 5, Dirt Rally, etc... are all in favor of Nvidia up to 20fps at times, in Crysis 3 for example around 7-8fps faster.

So clearly Nvidia wins in older 2013-2015 DX11 games, sometimes by little, sometimes by up to 20fps. The thing is most of these games offer 60-90fps regardless at 1080p, so going for RX 480 doesn't really make it unplayable, sure there are some moments where a Crysis or Syndicate will go to the low 30's for like few seconds, but generally its smooth failing.

Now when it comes to DX12 titles and newer games, 480 seems to have a slight advantage, but also barely. For example Forza Horizon 3 is better for 480, but only by 2-3 frames at 1080p and its DX12. Gears of War another DX12 title is also pretty much neck and neck.

On the other side AMD has 3-6fps advantage in DX12 games like BF1, Deus:EX, The Division, Warhammer, but again its only few frames per second and most of the time DX11 is as fast on Nvidia compared to the DX12 on AMD, so with Nvidia you will run DX11 in these games, with AMD DX12 and you get pretty much the same performance.

Both cards cost pretty much the same here, a difference of 10 euros, so nothing major. The Gigabyte Mini is a lot smaller and consumes up to 130w, while the Sapphire consumes up to 185W and runs hotter and louder as well.

Do I basically forego some DX11 performance in current titles to gain as of now basically few more frames in DX12 and is going AMD route more future proof?

I mean we are seeing games like Forza, GOW, now Halo Wars 2 who are DX12 purely and offer as good, if not better performance for Nvidia.

Right now I don't have 1080p monitor, so most of my gaming will be bellow 1080p until the next 6 months, when I'm going to buy a new monitor. So in terms of futureproofing what is better?
 
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raghu78

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If you have seen the more recent reviews both these cards are very close. AMD's Rx 480 has been winning more games recently with some very high profile AAA titles like Call of Duty Infinite Warfare, Titanfall 2 and Resident Evil 7 running more than 10% faster on the Rx 480. The main advantage for AMD cards has been their console legacy and how well they age. PS4 Pro has a Polaris derived GPU while Xbox Scorpio seems to have a Vega derived GPU. As console developers start to get more familiar with these consoles and extract the best performance possible out of these consoles it directly would benefit the Rx 480. Moreover the Rx 480 has 2GB VRAM more and given how games are using up increasing amounts of VRAM that is an advantage.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jml0uItdnE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo

The Sapphire Nitro is a very good card. Pick the Rx 480. You will be glad you did.
 

Leadbox

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If you upgrade frequently you can't go wrong with either one. If you're fixing to keep it a good while and still get decent performance , I think the 480 is the best choice.
 
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ShintaiDK

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2016 games.
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Flip a coin. The 1060 definitely runs cooler and quieter like you said, but the RX 480 may have a little more longevity. If you won't upgrade again for 2+ years, the RX 480 might be the better option with 8gb of vram, but if you think you'll upgrade in 2 years or less, I'd say get the GTX 1060.
 

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2016 games.
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Holy crap. This is a bit OT but... look at that R9 290 4GB vs GTX 780 Ti 3GB gap! Even GTX 780 Ti SLI doesn't average higher than R9 290. These were competing cards back in the day, both released in early Nov 2013. In early reviews (e.g. techpowerup) GTX 780 Ti was 15% faster, but in 2016 games R9 290 is 27% faster... so relative to GTX 780 Ti, R9 290 has improved by 1.27/0.85 => +49%!

Is this mostly just due to driver maturity, or have engines become more favorable towards AMD's designs? Or perhaps GTX 780 Ti is choking due to the 3GB VRAM in modern titles that eat lots of memory on Ultra settings.

To make it less OT: Maybe RX 480 will be the same vs GTX 1060. Vastly more TFLOPS, more VRAM - more room to grow as DX12/Vulkan tap into unused performance. Definitely seems like the better long term choice.
 

AtenRa

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Even more relevant is the fact that the RX 480 and 1060 are barely competent at 1440p right now (making the RX 480 and GTX 1060 1080p most ideal for 1080p in 2017-2018 games). Nvidia performance generally increases over AMD at 1080p.

I can play every game at 1440p, i even play games at 3840x2160 with my RX 480 8GB GTR Black. You dont have to use 4x MSAA at 1440p or UHD, but using Ultra textures with other settings at medium/high and you can play every game at UHD 3840x2160 and 60fps. Just because we dont use high AA settings doesnt make the card barely competent for 1440p.
 
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ShintaiDK

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Holy crap. This is a bit OT but... look at that R9 290 4GB vs GTX 780 Ti 3GB gap! Even GTX 780 Ti SLI doesn't average higher than R9 290. These were competing cards back in the day, both released in early Nov 2013. In early reviews (e.g. techpowerup) GTX 780 Ti was 15% faster, but in 2016 games R9 290 is 27% faster... so relative to GTX 780 Ti, R9 290 has improved by 1.27/0.85 => +49%!

Is this mostly just due to driver maturity, or have engines become more favorable towards AMD's designs? Or perhaps GTX 780 Ti is choking due to the 3GB VRAM in modern titles that eat lots of memory on Ultra settings.

To make it less OT: Maybe RX 480 will be the same vs GTX 1060. Vastly more TFLOPS, more VRAM - more room to grow as DX12/Vulkan tap into unused performance. Definitely seems like the better long term choice.

Just the target architecture from the developers. Nothing else, AMD is still on GCN.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/geforce-treiber-test/2/

The DX12 part is a myth.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/halo-wars-2-blitz-beta-dx12-gpu-test-gamegpu.2497729/
 
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I can play every game at 1440p, i even play games at 3840x2160 with my RX 480 8GB GTR Black.

yea. you can play any game with even a gtx950 @ 1440. we all know that.

ANd you can play the games you have on your drive @ 1440 ,,,yea mabe.
That does not make a 1060 or 480 a good 1440p card.
 
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I can play every game at 1440p, i even play games at 3840x2160 with my RX 480 8GB GTR Black. You dont have to use 4x MSAA at 1440p or UHD, but using Ultra textures with other settings at medium/high and you can play every game at UHD 3840x2160 and 60fps. Just because we dont use high AA settings doesnt make the card barely competent for 1440p.

"i can play every game" What does that mean? I can play every game on my laptop too. Does it mean it runs well?
Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, Xcom 2, the latest AssCreed games, Civ 6, Mafia 3, No Mans Sky, Witcher 3, RoTTR, Far Cry Primal, COD Blops 3, Watch Dogs 2, and so many other games released in 2015 and 2016 can't even hit 50 fps without anti aliasing at 1440p, and many of those games can't average 50-60 without AA at 1080p on the RX 480/GTX 1060.

If you're dialing down several settings right now for new games, you'll be at medium/low settings by this time next year.
 
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Right now I don't have 1080p monitor, so most of my gaming will be bellow 1080p until the next 6 months, when I'm going to buy a new monitor. So in terms of futureproofing what is better?

Don't buy either. Buy a (usually) much cheaper 470 and then upgrade to vega/volta (or at least cheaper Polaris/Pascal) when you upgrade your monitor.
 
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AtenRa

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"i can play every game" What does that mean? I can play every game on my laptop too. Does it mean it runs well?
Dishonored 2, Deus Ex MD, Xcom 2, the latest AssCreed games, Civ 6, Mafia 3, No Mans Sky, Witcher 3, RoTTR, Far Cry Primal, COD Blops 3, Watch Dogs 2, and so many other games released in 2015 and 2016 can't even hit 50 fps without anti aliasing at 1440p, and many of those games can't average 50-60 without AA at 1080p on the RX 480/GTX 1060.

If you're dialing down several settings right now for new games, you'll be at medium/low settings by this time next year.

All those games can hit 60 fps without AA at 1440p at custom high/ultra settings with RX 480 8GB and GTX 1060 6GB. And yes when i say i can play all the games at 1440p it does mean they run well with high/ultra settings (no AA in latest games). Just because you dont max out at 60fps every game doesnt mean those cards are barely competent for 1440p gaming.
 
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Right now the 480 is leading and admittedly the Sapphire model is a class on its own, great looking, cool LGB light, one of the fastest overclockers, etc.. I mean if we took DX12 out of the equation I'd 100% go for the 1060, there is no match, its wins in 95% of games under DX11. The thing is DX12, I know current implementations are awkward and not fully representative, but in many cases Nvidia cards lose performance under DX12. It would be fine if they stayed the same, but they actually lose performance in several games.

The issue is what will happen 1 year down the road, let alone say 2 years down the road if games are solely DX12 with no DX11 and Nvidia is losing performance in most of these titles. So say if they were going to get say 60fps on DX11 with purely DX12 they will be getting 53fps or something, while AMD has never had its performance reduced when comparing DX11 and DX12. Sure at some games they suck so much in DX11 that DX12 only levels the plainfield, but its a worrying trend!
 

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the Sapphire model is a class on its own, great looking, cool LGB light, one of the fastest overclockers, etc..

The Sapphire RX480 Nitro is actually one of the worst RX480's. Massively inflated power draw, high temperatures and loud fans.

The best AIB RX480's are the XFX GTR series, MSI Gaming X, Powercolor Devil etc etc.
 

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@Dave2150 PowerColor Red Devil is only top-tier in terms of cooler performance and noise level. But under the hood, its VRM quality is much worse than reference. It's basically ok if you do no overclocking, but it still isn't going to be as reliable in the long term as other cards like Sapphire/MSI/XFX/Asus.
 

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I wish I could have got a 480 if only for the mining revenue, but alas. None in stock. I broke down and bought a 1060. Has been great for playing WoW in 4k. :)
 

ShintaiDK

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I don't know what that means. If it means "I don't know, you decide" then it hardly says anything about whether the "DX12 part is a myth" or not.

I am sorry if it bothers you so much that if AMD doesn't win DX12 its not a right DX12 title.
 

SlickR12345

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I've decided to go for the 1060 6GB guys. I know the RX 480 wins in the poll here and I know AMD has improved their drivers and the potential of DX12, but I've been reading computehardware.de who only run custom tests and I've been watching youtube videos of gameplay and the GTX 1060 wins on pretty much 95% DX11 titles, literally draws in others. According to computerhardware.de in actual gameplay AMD also looses performance in DX12.

So while the RX 480 has the bigger potential in DX12, the current implementations of it and I believe at least for the next year will obviously be bad and unreliable.

In exclusive DX12 titles like Forza 3, GOW, AOTS, etc... we see that 1060 holds its own vs the 480. I mean ultimately it comes down to flipping a coin and deciding. Usually 2-3fps difference, margin of error type stuff. Battlefield 1 does see some small gains in DX12 for the RX series, but again its 5-6fps gain, which does put it ahead of the 1060 in DX12, but in DX11 mode the 1060 is faster than the 480 in DX12. Also frame times and minimums are worse in DX12 across the boards than they are in DX11. So even when getting more fps on average, the micro stutter and quick drops and stuff is increased.

Even advanced warfare in actual gameplay tests performs similarly between the 1060 and 480. I mean custom cards like the sapphire and black edition do win by 3-4fps, but its not an actual huge lead in real world testing.

So while I do plan on keeping the card for the next 2 years, I don't think this generation of cards between the 1000 and 400 series will actually take full advantage of DX12, with DX12 coding probably to be in the flux over the next year.

So by the time DX12 is streamlined and I believe Vega and Volta cards for mid range trickle down, its going to be a year.
 
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AtenRa

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I've decided to go for the 1060 6GB guys. I know the RX 480 wins in the poll here and I know AMD has improved their drivers and the potential of DX12, but I've been reading computehardware.de who only run custom tests and I've been watching youtube videos of gameplay and the GTX 1060 wins on pretty much 95% DX11 titles, literally draws in others. According to computerhardware.de in actual gameplay AMD also looses performance in DX12.

So while the RX 480 has the bigger potential in DX12, the current implementations of it and I believe at least for the next year will obviously be bad and unreliable.

In exclusive DX12 titles like Forza 3, GOW, AOTS, etc... we see that 1060 holds its own vs the 480. I mean ultimately it comes down to flipping a coin and deciding. Usually 2-3fps difference, margin of error type stuff. Battlefield 1 does see some small gains in DX12 for the RX series, but again its 5-6fps gain, which does put it ahead of the 1060 in DX12, but in DX11 mode the 1060 is faster than the 480 in DX12. Also frame times and minimums are worse in DX12 across the boards than they are in DX11. So even when getting more fps on average, the micro stutter and quick drops and stuff is increased.

Even advanced warfare in actual gameplay tests performs similarly between the 1060 and 480. I mean custom cards like the sapphire and black edition do win by 3-4fps, but its not an actual huge lead in real world testing.

So while I do plan on keeping the card for the next 2 years, I don't think this generation of cards between the 1000 and 400 series will actually take full advantage of DX12, with DX12 coding probably to be in the flux over the next year.

So by the time DX12 is streamlined and I believe Vega and Volta cards for mid range trickle down, its going to be a year.

Just a question,

What CPU will you be using ??