Ruth Bader Ginsburg crossed a very important line

[glenn1]

I disagree. She is really old and I think her judgment has become impaired. The bare minimum that we ask of our justices is that they maintain the illusion of not being political hacks. That should be fairly achievable objective. She stands out as one of the exceedingly rare (if not only) justices who were unable to meet that minimal standard.

<shrug> She has lifetime tenure and IMHO this doesn't rise to the level where she should resign. A light censure from the legislature reaffirming the judicial code of ethics is probably appropriate and would be supported by both sides of the aisle. Formally recognize it as inappropriate, slap her hand for doing it, and let her get back to the bench and remain focused on the cases that come to her instead of the election. Ditto for the rest of them.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

<shrug> She has lifetime tenure and IMHO this doesn't rise to the level where she should resign. A light censure from the legislature reaffirming the judicial code of ethics is probably appropriate and would be supported by both sides of the aisle. Formally recognize it as inappropriate, slap her hand for doing it, and let her get back to the bench and remain focused on the cases that come to her instead of the election. Ditto for the rest of them.

Exactly, imagine a world where people go out of their way to record a Justice saying something then editing the words to be out of context to get a Judge they like better or a scenario where Justices don't say anything because the fear Congress removing them for not agreeing with some of their decisions.
No thanks

 

[bshole]

I am not stuck hard on her resigning. It just sickens me seeing the Supreme Court acting like political hacks. It would be nice if we could have one group that acted with some class.

 

[werepossum]

I find it absolutely disgraceful that a sitting Supreme Court Justice would say anything about politics. I lot a shitload of respect for this woman.

Ouch. I stand corrected.

Good. Now she needs to resign.

She's apologized, I wonder if all her lefty wacko defenders will agree that she went over the line.

Resignation seems a bit extreme for simply saying what we all knew she felt.

I disagree. She is really old and I think her judgment has become impaired. The bare minimum that we ask of our justices is that they maintain the illusion of not being political hacks. That should be fairly achievable objective. She stands out as one of the exceedingly rare (if not only) justices who were unable to meet that minimal standard.

You make a good argument, but again, resignation for failing to maintain an illusion which fools no one seems a bit extreme.

 

[werepossum]

I whole hearted agree that there should be a time limit on how long the senate has to approve/deny anyone. Really it would become a requirement for them to vote to deny and they could approve without a vote, so no political consequences with their bases.

I do worry, though, with all the games the republicans have played since Obama came into office, if we started trying to fix each one, the constitution might start looking like the CFRs, where you are forever trying to block every loophole as the opposition is always coming up with new ones.

I think the founders got the life time appointments of SCOTUS right. Anything less would lead to stacking of the court and more political involvement.

But justices are already selected purely for political gain. And worse, they now try to nominate the youngest people they believe they can get approved, to get the most bang for their buck.

 

[Vic]

All she accomplished was to give the Clown yet another free ride through yet another news cycle, so yeah, she should have apologized.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Just had a thought its funny that Warren & RGB appear to be the only two that really get under Trumps skin. Kind of strange that none of the early guys could do this. Marco kind of did with the small hands bit. Honestly I think we were hours away from Trump saying he's got the biggest

Spoiler

cock

in America.

 

[zinfamous]

Eh Scalia and RBG were actually very close friends.

yeah, but they probably argued a lot, like any good friend.

I'm just surprised she didn't use the "I'm old and confused, leave me the fuck alone!" excuse.

It's why Target doesn't bother whenever they catch her stealing batteries.

 

[Moonbeam]

All she accomplished was to give the Clown yet another free ride through yet another news cycle, so yeah, she should have apologized.

He wouldn't have and didn't with the judge he accused.

 

[zinfamous]

Ouch. I stand corrected.


Resignation seems a bit extreme for simply saying what we all knew she felt.


You make a good argument, but again, resignation for failing to maintain an illusion which fools no one seems a bit extreme.

I agree.

It was "bad form" for her, but this posturing about her needing to resign for admitting a truth is the same political gamesmanship that her critics are criticizing her for engaging in.

 

[poofyhairguy]

All she accomplished was to give the Clown yet another free ride through yet another news cycle, so yeah, she should have apologized.

It was worst than that. It made every Republican on the fence with Trump realize that they need him to keep the court from completely leaning to the left.

 

[bshole]

You make a good argument, but again, resignation for failing to maintain an illusion which fools no one seems a bit extreme.

Well I like to pretend that I believe the illusion. When a justice does something like this, it makes it pretty damn hard for me to do that with any credibility.

Jesus this is depressing. We are all so damn jaded and cynical. I wish we could get a young fresh faced optimistic poster in here to brighten the place up...... and shred mercilessly.

 

[bshole]

I agree.

It was "bad form" for her, but this posturing about her needing to resign for admitting a truth is the same political gamesmanship that her critics are criticizing her for engaging in.

I don't think too many on the right would be pushing that. It wouldn't make much sense. Do they really want to replace her with a 50 yr old progressive? The rational thing would be to keep her in her current position until a Republican gets into office.... that could easily occur within the next century or so.

 

[Jhhnn]

But justices are already selected purely for political gain. And worse, they now try to nominate the youngest people they believe they can get approved, to get the most bang for their buck.

Garland doesn't fit that mold at all.

 

[PokerGuy]

Trump has compiled a pretty nice list of apologies so far.... He's had a SCOTUS judge apologize, other candidates, senators, heck even the pope apologized for the statements he made about Trump. He seems to bring out the best in everyone

 

[fskimospy]

Trump has compiled a pretty nice list of apologies so far.... He's had a SCOTUS judge apologize, other candidates, senators, heck even the pope apologized for the statements he made about Trump. He seems to bring out the best in everyone

It is kind of funny how he's able to bait public figures with actual dignity and respect into talking about how he is a national disgrace because as soon as they do Trump is able to drag them down to his level. He has nothing to lose because he's already hated. They do though.

 

[PokerGuy]

It is kind of funny how he's able to bait public figures with actual dignity and respect into talking about how he is a national disgrace because as soon as they do Trump is able to drag them down to his level. He has nothing to lose because he's already hated. They do though.

He's a gasbag and egomaniac jackass, but he's no more of a "national disgrace" than his opponent in this election or any of a number of other politicians (including the idiot in the white house). The left has already torn him down and smeared him to the point where further attacks simply won't matter, so he's being smart in exploiting that.

 

[Painman]

DAE look at photos of her and think she was probably hot 60 years ago?

<_<

>_>

 

[bshole]

He's a gasbag and egomaniac jackass, but he's no more of a "national disgrace" than his opponent in this election or any of a number of other politicians (including the idiot in the white house). The left has already torn him down and smeared him to the point where further attacks simply won't matter, so he's being smart in exploiting that.

Disagree. The RIGHT has been absolutely shredding Trump for almost a year. How did you miss that?

 

[TeeJay1952]

If Senate doesn't fulfill it's duties and Advise & Consent then Obama & Judges cannot quit as they swore to uphold Constitution and could not give in to unconstitutional power grab.

 

[bshole]

If Senate doesn't fulfill it's duties and Advise & Consent then Obama & Judges cannot quit as they swore to uphold Constitution and could not give in to unconstitutional power grab.

Could you try that again in English?

 

[Blackjack200]

It is kind of funny how he's able to bait public figures with actual dignity and respect into talking about how he is a national disgrace because as soon as they do Trump is able to drag them down to his level. He has nothing to lose because he's already hated. They do though.

By far the funniest thing about this election is that Trump's clear motive in running is to earn the respect and status his money could never buy, but even if he is elected, he still won't get it.

Imagine being such a shitball that being elected POTUS doesn't even earn you respect. Incredible.

 

[LegendKiller]

By far the funniest thing about this election is that Trump's clear motive in running is to earn the respect and status his money could never buy, but even if he is elected, he still won't get it.

Imagine being such a shitball that being elected POTUS doesn't even earn you respect. Incredible.

And hillary's goal is to sell all of the respect she bought previously by peddling additional influence through the cgi, like she did the entire time she was sec state.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump has compiled a pretty nice list of apologies so far.... He's had a SCOTUS judge apologize, other candidates, senators, heck even the pope apologized for the statements he made about Trump. He seems to bring out the best in everyone

It's remarkable how her words are seen as an apology to Trump.

"On reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and I regret making them," Ginsburg said in a statement. "Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. In the future I will be more circumspect."

Hours after releasing the statement Ginsburg talked exclusively to NPR's Nina Totenberg, and expanded upon her statement. She called her comments "incautious."
"I did something I should not have done," she added. "It's over and done with and I don't want to discuss it anymore."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-i-regret-making-donald-trump-remarks/

"I should have kept my mouth shut" isn't the same as an admission of error wrt what she said about Trump. She certainly didn't withdraw her remarks about Senate Repubs' attack on the institution of the SCOTUS, either.

 

[Phynaz]

Just shows poor judgement. Which is kinda a bad thing for somebody in her position.

We really need to set a retirement age for SCOTUS, I wouldn't be surprised if she is half senile.