Russian Spy Network Exposed

[EagleKeeper]

ANy term can be used against a specific race and be considered derogatory by the recipient, intended or not.

to become over-sensitive to such makes one in turn racist.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Why? Chinese-man, Chinaman. How is that pejorative? Just because you say it is?

Fail.




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[Jaskalas]

Fail.

I guess you don't like China.

 

[Thump553]

This part of the Russian spy network needs to be exposed more

Nice to have a spy look more like Natasha than Boris.

NPR had a very interesting show about this yesterday. Some of the major points I gleaned from it:
-This has happened repeatedly in USA/USSR-Russia relations, where a thawing of relations is derailed, apparently by forces within either government which want relations to be more hostile. The most prominent example was in the late 50's Krushchev and Eisenhower were heading towards a major thaw in the Cold War. Eisenhower issued an order barring plane overflights over USSR, that order was apparently ignored. At the same time Krushchev had ordered the Russian military to stop attempts to shoot down those overflights, his order was likewise lost/ignored. A short while later was the shooting down of Gary Powers' U2, which was a huge setback in US/USSR relations.
-although the FBI has been working on this case for 10 years, from the info released to date no classified information was involved. Supposedly they had to act because one of the accused was scheduled to fly out of the USA shortly.
-This scandal works against both Obama and Putin's goals. Putin wants to thaw relations to get more international financing to restore Russia's worn-out infrastructure.
-This could easily backlash on academics and journalists in Russia, who do essentially the same thing (but are clearly identified as US citizens).

I'm willing to let our government make it's case publically, but my BS warning system is on high alert. From what I've read so far, at most this seems to be a case of routine commercial "espionage"/information gathering that all countries engage in. I bet there are a hundred such "spies" actively operating here from Red China than from Russia.

 

[Throckmorton]

Nice to have a spy look more like Natasha than Boris.

NPR had a very interesting show about this yesterday. Some of the major points I gleaned from it:
-This has happened repeatedly in USA/USSR-Russia relations, where a thawing of relations is derailed, apparently by forces within either government which want relations to be more hostile. The most prominent example was in the late 50's Krushchev and Eisenhower were heading towards a major thaw in the Cold War. Eisenhower issued an order barring plane overflights over USSR, that order was apparently ignored. At the same time Krushchev had ordered the Russian military to stop attempts to shoot down those overflights, his order was likewise lost/ignored. A short while later was the shooting down of Gary Powers' U2, which was a huge setback in US/USSR relations.
-although the FBI has been working on this case for 10 years, from the info released to date no classified information was involved. Supposedly they had to act because one of the accused was scheduled to fly out of the USA shortly.
-This scandal works against both Obama and Putin's goals. Putin wants to thaw relations to get more international financing to restore Russia's worn-out infrastructure.
-This could easily backlash on academics and journalists in Russia, who do essentially the same thing (but are clearly identified as US citizens).

I'm willing to let our government make it's case publically, but my BS warning system is on high alert. From what I've read so far, at most this seems to be a case of routine commercial "espionage"/information gathering that all countries engage in. I bet there are a hundred such "spies" actively operating here from Red China than from Russia.

So you're saying the conspiracy isn't the espionage, but the outing of the spies? That seems pretty likely given the timing.

 

[Throckmorton]

I guess thinking for yourself is not your strong suit either, because it makes no sense. There's no disputing that a chinese man is a chinaman. Obviously there is history of chinese immigrants being discriminated against. I don't see it a matter of any concern that a bunch of racists 150 years ago used an aptly descriptive term to describe who it is that they are unhappy with. If the Ku Klux Klan replaced every reference to the word great person with "African American", would that word then become a racial slur?

Either way, this Russiawoman is hot. Oh no, I'm sorry, that's a racist term. Please accept my apologies.

You really don't think "chinaman" is a slur? Look in the dictionary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chinaman

chinaman
- 2 dictionary results
Chi·na·man
   /ˈtʃaɪnəmən/ Show Spelled[chahy-nuh-muhn] Show IPA
–noun, plural -men.
1.
Usually Offensive . a Chinese or a person of Chinese descent.
2.
( lowercase ) a person who imports or sells china.
3.
( often lowercase ) Political Slang . a person regarded as one's benefactor, sponsor, or protector: to see one's chinaman about a favor.
—Idiom
4.
a Chinaman's chance, Usually Offensive . the slightest chance: He hasn't a Chinaman's chance of getting that job.
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Origin:
1765–75; China + -man
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Chi·na·man (chī'nə-mən)
n. Offensive
A Chinese man.
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Let me guess, you don't think "cracker" is a slur either, because it's just a type of pastry? And "wog" isn't a slur either because it's a type of doll?

 

[peonyu]

I hope some of them entered the country through the Mexican border haha. That would high light our awesome border security.

 

[Red Dawn]

Seems like they were acting more like Lobbyists than spies. The worse charge against them is Money Laundering

 

[nonlnear]

Seems like they were acting more like Lobbyists than spies. The worse charge against them is Money Laundering

It's not even that "serious". They are not charged with money laundering at all.

 

[borosp1]

can they be charged with obtaining passports, drivers licenses, and other required American documents under false and stolen identities. It sounds like they are currently charged with only not registering as foreign agents. These Russians could be charged with a slew of other charges which carry much longer sentences (ie money laundering and identity theft)

in My opinion the guy who was let go in Cyprus was more likely a bigger fish from the former KGB in this whole spy scandal but we will never know.